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Readon Shaw
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      12-10-2005, 02:22 AM
is there some stuff which describe the netbios over ipx protocol? i
googled several time without any useful infomation.

 
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      12-10-2005, 03:25 AM

Readon Shaw wrote:
> is there some stuff which describe the netbios over ipx protocol? i
> googled several time without any useful infomation.


Think you must mean NWLink -- MS's Netbios over IPX/SPX transport
layer/driver.

You can try these for a start -- they were the first things I pulled
up with google:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=203051
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=316019

The whole thing is a mess since you're combining a non-routable,
broadcast oriented protocol inside a routable, service advertisement
protocol and 3 (IIRC) ethernet frame types.

good luck,
prg

 
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      12-10-2005, 04:19 PM
There are two implemention on Netbios over IPX. One is MS's the other
is Novell's. I want the detail about packets structure of Novell Nebios
over IPX. Thank you.
prg wrote:
> Readon Shaw wrote:
> > is there some stuff which describe the netbios over ipx protocol? i
> > googled several time without any useful infomation.

>
> Think you must mean NWLink -- MS's Netbios over IPX/SPX transport
> layer/driver.
>
> You can try these for a start -- they were the first things I pulled
> up with google:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=203051
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=316019
>
> The whole thing is a mess since you're combining a non-routable,
> broadcast oriented protocol inside a routable, service advertisement
> protocol and 3 (IIRC) ethernet frame types.
>
> good luck,
> prg


 
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prg
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      12-10-2005, 10:24 PM

Readon Shaw wrote:
> There are two implemention on Netbios over IPX. One is MS's the other
> is Novell's. I want the detail about packets structure of Novell Nebios
> over IPX. Thank you.


I think you won't find too much about _how_ Netware _emulates_ Netbios
;-(

In a way, the Netbios "packets" are encapsulated in the Netware
transport/network layer. Netbios is more of an API as used by apps, so
it is just the "data" carried by the lower layers. Very similar to how
NBT works over IP.

Inside the guts of Netware there is a Netbios emulator that presumably
maps Netbios calls to appropriate Netware calls so that Netware
"transparenly" supports Netbios apps. It's been 12-15 years since I
had to work in such an environment and we only wrote a few _very_
simple Netbios apps. It was interesting to see just what I could find,
though. Here's the list of links I came up with:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/...c/netwarep.htm
http://www.rhyshaden.com/ipx.htm
http://www.rhyshaden.com/netbios.htm#NetBIOS over IPX

http://www.unoverica.com/documentati.../mt211ah8.html

http://www.protocolbase.net/protocols/protocol_IPX.php
http://www.protocolbase.net/protocols/protocol_NCP.php
http://www.protocolbase.net/protocol...ol_NetBIOS.php
http://www.protocolbase.net/protocol...ol_NetBEUI.php ?????

http://www.protocols.com/pbook/novel.htm#NetBIOS

http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/ipx.htm
http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/ncp.htm

http://www.factbites.com/topics/Netware-Core-Protocol

http://groups.google.com/groups?num=...ch&sa=N&tab=wg
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....rch+this+group

Beyond this or similar I imagine you'll have to find someone with
"historical" knowledge far beyond mine ;-)

hth a little,
prg

 
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