Help me with the PPP dialup!!!

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 19:58:41 GMT, Alan Connor <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Try adding these two lines:
>
>lcp-echo-interval 30
>
>lcp-echo-failure 4
That line made pppd very unhappy (i.e. it broke it!) so I removed it.
>
>hide-password
>
>wouldn't hurt either...
>
The only person who even knows my password is me, and I am the only
one who even regularly uses my PC. My father plays games, but even if
he knew my password, it wouldn't matter!

>> only line out of PPP log that makes any sense about the problem:
>>
>> sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x63aac73f> <pcomp>
>><accomp>]
>
>Now how about your chatscript?
>/etc/ppp/peers/provider on Debian
>
It would help if I had one! My ISP starts the PPP login immediately,
so I specify the username on the pppd commabd line!

>>>>>> Why don't you post a full session from an attempt to connect from
>/var/log/syslog...
>
>Does /sbin/ifconfig show your ppp interface up when you are trying
>to connect?
>

Nope :-(

>This would be easier if you were to do the configuration from a plain
>tty and bring in X et al later....
>
>All that K* stuff is muddying the waters...
>
Well I just tried it from a non-X session, still no worky!

>Where is Bill Unruh?
>
He might know ;-)
>
>
>AC

>I am using SuSE Linux 9.0. I made sure all of the files are correct,
>with the correct entries, hopefully! ;-). I can almost never connect
>with KInternet, KPPP, or even pppd at the konsole. One time when I
>tried pppd at the konsole it managed to connect with PPP, but I could
>not send any information over the internet. I could ping the server's
>P address and my own IP address, but I could not ping the DNS
>erver's IP address. My IP was 12.10.53.90, the server was
>2.10.53.248, and the DNS address is 12.10.53.2. I have attached all
>of the linux configuration files. I have lived in the Wintel world
>for years, the internet is the only thing stopping me from switching
>to the Lintel world! ;-P. Thanks in advance. You can reply here, or
>you can reply to (E-Mail Removed) TTYL!!

>Iguanaman

Sorry about posting all of the files as attachments, here I go again.
BTW, I did kill the default route 0.0.0.0, and I also followed the
"How to Hook Up PPP In Linux", but it still did not work! Sorry about
all of the trouble! Sorry AC!

options:

lock
asyncmap 0
crtscts
modem
noipdefault
updetach
defaultroute
usepeerdns
noauth

only line out of PPP log that makes any sense about the problem:

sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x63aac73f> <pcomp>
<accomp>]

nsswitch.conf:

passwd: compat
group: compat

hosts: files dns
networks: files dns

services: files
protocols: files
rpc: files
ethers: files
netmasks: files
netgroup: files
publickey: files

bootparams: files
automount: files nis
aliases: files

host.conf:

order hosts, bind
multi on

resolv.conf:

nameserver 12.10.53.2
nameserver 12.127.16.68
domain dwlee

Iguanaman <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
> options:

I don't see the "debug" option here.

> only line out of PPP log that makes any sense about the problem:
>
> sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x63aac73f> <pcomp>
> <accomp>]

I'm not sure what you mean by "makes any sense." Is that the complete
output or not? If it is, then the peer isn't running PPP at all.
That usually means that the serial line is broken, the chat script
failed, the modem is misconfigured, or the peer requires some extra
hand-holding to get PPP started.

Did the PPP interface come up at all (as seen in netstat)? If so,
then that's really quite inconsistent with the debug logs you're
showing.

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On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:58:38 -0500, Iguanaman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>
>>I am using SuSE Linux 9.0. I made sure all of the files are correct,
>>with the correct entries, hopefully! ;-). I can almost never connect
>>with KInternet, KPPP, or even pppd at the konsole. One time when I
>>tried pppd at the konsole it managed to connect with PPP, but I could
>>not send any information over the internet. I could ping the server's
>>P address and my own IP address, but I could not ping the DNS
>>erver's IP address. My IP was 12.10.53.90, the server was
>>2.10.53.248, and the DNS address is 12.10.53.2. I have attached all
>>of the linux configuration files. I have lived in the Wintel world
>>for years, the internet is the only thing stopping me from switching
>>to the Lintel world! ;-P. Thanks in advance. You can reply here, or
>>you can reply to (E-Mail Removed) TTYL!!
>
>>Iguanaman
>
> Sorry about posting all of the files as attachments, here I go again.
> BTW, I did kill the default route 0.0.0.0, and I also followed the
> "How to Hook Up PPP In Linux", but it still did not work! Sorry about
> all of the trouble! Sorry AC!
>
No big deal. And the apology goes to the Usenet, not me personally.

You have an external or internal hardware modem, I gather?

> options:
>
> lock
> asyncmap 0
> crtscts
> modem
> noipdefault
> updetach
^ I don't use this one, but not sure whether you need it or not.
> defaultroute
> usepeerdns
^ don't see the need for that with your resolv.conf in good shape

> noauth
>

Try adding these two lines:

lcp-echo-interval 30

lcp-echo-failure 4

hide-password

wouldn't hurt either...

> only line out of PPP log that makes any sense about the problem:
>
> sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x63aac73f> <pcomp>
><accomp>]

Now how about your chatscript?
/etc/ppp/peers/provider on Debian

>>>>> Why don't you post a full session from an attempt to connect from
/var/log/syslog...

Does /sbin/ifconfig show your ppp interface up when you are trying
to connect?

This would be easier if you were to do the configuration from a plain
tty and bring in X et al later....

All that K* stuff is muddying the waters...

Where is Bill Unruh?



AC

On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:45:50 -0600, Clifford Kite <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>
> In comp.protocols.ppp Iguanaman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Sorry about posting all of the files as attachments, here I go again.
>> BTW, I did kill the default route 0.0.0.0, and I also followed the
>> "How to Hook Up PPP In Linux", but it still did not work! Sorry about
>> all of the trouble! Sorry AC!
>
> AC doesn't post here much. Thankfully. I took the liberty of removing
> the cross-post and follow-up to coln.


Now there's a real intelligent statement.

NO ONE posts much on comp.protocols.ppp

(10 whole posts since the 3rd of January, not counting spam, and that's
a busy week for cpp)

Perhaps it would be more popular if its most prominent denizen wasn't a
fucking *stupid* troll named Clifford Kite?


AC

Iguanaman <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:


]Sorry about posting all of the files as attachments, here I go again.
]BTW, I did kill the default route 0.0.0.0, and I also followed the
]"How to Hook Up PPP In Linux", but it still did not work! Sorry about
]all of the trouble! Sorry AC!


]options:

]lock
]asyncmap 0
]crtscts
]modem
]noipdefault
]updetach
]defaultroute
]usepeerdns
]noauth

]only line out of PPP log that makes any sense about the problem:

]sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x63aac73f> <pcomp>
]<accomp>]

You do not know why it does not work. Thus you do not know which line of
the ppp log makes sense of it or not.
Post the complete log of a session, as reported by syslog (eg in
/var/log/ppplog) including all of th times etc.
The above line is NOT a problem.

You said that you did manage to hook up to the remote machine, and that
you could ping the remote machine. If that is true, then ppp works. The
problem is not in ppp. The ONLY purpose of ppp is to make a connection
with the remote machine. That is it. If that works, then ppp works, and
the problem lies elsewhere.

a) Post a complete ppp log of a session
b) post the output of the command
ifconfig -a
c) post the output of the command
route -n
d) post the content of the file /etc/resolv.conf

These will give us something to work with.


]nameserver 12.10.53.2
]nameserver 12.127.16.68
]domain dwlee


12.10.53.2 does not respond to pings from here. WHere did you get that
address from?

Iguanaman <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:

]On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 19:58:41 GMT, Alan Connor <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
]>Try adding these two lines:
]>
]>lcp-echo-interval 30
]>
]>lcp-echo-failure 4

lcp-echo will not help here.

]That line made pppd very unhappy (i.e. it broke it!) so I removed it.

Not sure what you mean by "broke it"
What version of pppd are you using?

]>
]>hide-password

That is now the default anyway
The suggestion is not to hide the password from your father, but that
when you post the log of a complete session, everyone in the world does
not discover your password.


]>
]>wouldn't hurt either...
]It would help if I had one! My ISP starts the PPP login immediately,
]so I specify the username on the pppd commabd line!

Good. that is fine.
However you probably still have a chat script in order to tell the
system to dial the phone to your ISP etc. Did you follow all of the
steps in "How to hook up ppp"? Or did you assume that some steps did not
apply to you and thus you could skip them?


]>>>>>> Why don't you post a full session from an attempt to connect from
]>/var/log/syslog...
]>
]Well I just tried it from a non-X session, still no worky!

it? What do you mean by it? What did you try?
Remember we can not read your mind, and we do not have your experience.
The only clues we have to the problem come from what you post.


]>Where is Bill Unruh?

In Vancouver, Canada.

Alan Connor <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:

]On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:45:50 -0600, Clifford Kite <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
]>
]>
]> In comp.protocols.ppp Iguanaman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
]>
]>> Sorry about posting all of the files as attachments, here I go again.
]>> BTW, I did kill the default route 0.0.0.0, and I also followed the
]>> "How to Hook Up PPP In Linux", but it still did not work! Sorry about
]>> all of the trouble! Sorry AC!
]>
]> AC doesn't post here much. Thankfully. I took the liberty of removing
]> the cross-post and follow-up to coln.


]Now there's a real intelligent statement.

]NO ONE posts much on comp.protocols.ppp

](10 whole posts since the 3rd of January, not counting spam, and that's
]a busy week for cpp)

]Perhaps it would be more popular if its most prominent denizen wasn't a
]fucking *stupid* troll named Clifford Kite?

Oh, come off it. Kite is the person here who has helped the most people
get connected. Lets try to keep personal flames out of this group at
least.

> ]BTW, I did kill the default route 0.0.0.0, and I also followed the
> ]"How to Hook Up PPP In Linux", but it still did not work!

Try the ISP hookup howto. And use a dialer program that will set most of
the stuff up for you. Kppp or WvDial are two fairly good ones. There's
like 20 different ways to get establish a dialup connection, so don't fret
if one doesn't work for you. Try one of the other ways.

http://tldp.org/HOWTO/ISP-Hookup-HOWTO.html

Be sure the set your default route too:
> route add default ppp0

And your DNS entries (kppp sort of does this for you):
> nano /etc/resolv.conf
search *
nameserver <IP of DNS1>
nameserver <IP of DNS2>

Once your connection is established be sure to secure it. Use bind 9+, or
not at all. Kernel 2.4.24 or better. And iptables.

netfilter.org
isc.org/products/BIND/

Once setup "route -n", "netstat -r", or "ifconfig" can be usefull tools to
see what is setup to go where. It doesn't matter if you're connected if
all of your packets are rigged to go to /dev/null.

Shadow_7

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 11:36:33 -0500, Iguanaman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 19:58:41 GMT, Alan Connor <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>Try adding these two lines:
>>
>>lcp-echo-interval 30
>>
>>lcp-echo-failure 4
> That line made pppd very unhappy (i.e. it broke it!) so I removed it.

You have to use them both, but I am not at all sure they will help. Just
what I am doing here.

>>
>>hide-password
>>
>>wouldn't hurt either...
>>
> The only person who even knows my password is me, and I am the only
> one who even regularly uses my PC. My father plays games, but even if
> he knew my password, it wouldn't matter!
>

It also helps to hide your passwd from crackers, I believe, which was what
*I* was thinking.

>>> only line out of PPP log that makes any sense about the problem:
>>>
>>> sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x63aac73f> <pcomp>
>>><accomp>]
>>
>>Now how about your chatscript?
>>/etc/ppp/peers/provider on Debian
>>
> It would help if I had one! My ISP starts the PPP login immediately,
> so I specify the username on the pppd commabd line!
>

Weird.

>>>>>>> Why don't you post a full session from an attempt to connect from
>>/var/log/syslog...
>>
>>Does /sbin/ifconfig show your ppp interface up when you are trying
>>to connect?
>>
>
> Nope :-(
>

No ppp[0-9] interface? That's not possible given what you've posted in other
articles here.

>>This would be easier if you were to do the configuration from a plain
>>tty and bring in X et al later....
>>
>>All that K* stuff is muddying the waters...
>>
> Well I just tried it from a non-X session, still no worky!
>

I meant to start re-configuring your connection from the ground up
from there.

Bill Unruh is really good at that sort of thing.

We'll get it working, never-you-fear.


AC