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Jeff
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      09-24-2007, 08:51 PM
Hi

I'm using Vista on my home wireless network and my laptop is a
member of it's own workgroup called, not surprising WORKGROUP. Now my
flatmate's laptop is also a member of it's own workgroup also called the
default name of WORKGROUP. Of course his machine is also connected to the
wireless network. Now what is happening is that from time to time is that
browser elections are taking place with his machine thinking it's the master
browser and forcing elections. This in turn is disconnecting my wireless.

Here is copy and paste from my system log:

The master browser has received a server announcement from the computer
MY-PC that believes that it is the master browser for the domain on
transport NetBT_Tcpip_{C8DF592A-0C35-42EF-AB81-4A8E24570948. The master
browser is stopping or an election is being forced.

Can I do anything about this? Will I need to create a differently named
workgroup to resolve this?

Thanks

Jeff

 
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Phillip Windell
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      09-24-2007, 09:15 PM
"Jeff" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> I'm using Vista on my home wireless network and my laptop is a
> member of it's own workgroup called, not surprising WORKGROUP. Now my
> flatmate's laptop is also a member of it's own workgroup also called the
> default name of WORKGROUP. Of course his machine is also connected to the
> wireless network. Now what is happening is that from time to time is that
> browser elections are taking place with his machine thinking it's the
> master browser and forcing elections. This in turn is disconnecting my
> wireless.


Well workgroups don't have "members". The workgroup is sort of an
"imaginary" thing,...if two machines have the same workgroup name then they
*are* in the same workgroup, it's just that simple. Browser elections in a
workgroup within a single subnet is normal and expected,...they cannot be
stopped without hacking the registry on one machine to tell it to never be a
Master Browser,...however that is not a solution for machines that are
mobile (like laptops).

Browser elections are perfectly normal and expected.

> The master browser has received a server announcement from the computer
> MY-PC that believes that it is the master browser for the domain on
> transport NetBT_Tcpip_{C8DF592A-0C35-42EF-AB81-4A8E24570948. The master
> browser is stopping or an election is being forced.


This is a perfectly normal and expected "alert". It is not an "error"
because there is nothing wrong with anything,..it is simply an "alert" for
information purposes. Browser elections are not going to knock down your
wireless connection,..it just ain't gonna happen,..the two don't even live
in the same world or have anything to do with each other. It's kinda like
saying that turning on the Television is making the tire on the car go flat
out in the driveway.

Whatever is knocking down the connection is something totally different.
Unfortuneately, I have no idea what it would be. It could be a crappy Access
Point or Wireless "router", or crappy firmware on those devices, or crappy
Nic (or firmware), or power saver setting on the laptop or nic causing them
to "go to sleep", or RF Radio interferrence like cordless Phones in the
house, or someone starting up the microwave oven for some snacks. Just sit
the laptop close to the micowave oven, turn the oven on and watch what
happens.


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The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
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      10-12-2007, 09:52 PM
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"Phillip Windell" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Jeff" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> newsBBAD2A9-4914-479B-9990-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi
>>
>> I'm using Vista on my home wireless network and my laptop is a
>> member of it's own workgroup called, not surprising WORKGROUP. Now my
>> flatmate's laptop is also a member of it's own workgroup also called the
>> default name of WORKGROUP. Of course his machine is also connected to the
>> wireless network. Now what is happening is that from time to time is that
>> browser elections are taking place with his machine thinking it's the
>> master browser and forcing elections. This in turn is disconnecting my
>> wireless.

>
> Well workgroups don't have "members". The workgroup is sort of an
> "imaginary" thing,...if two machines have the same workgroup name then
> they *are* in the same workgroup, it's just that simple. Browser
> elections in a workgroup within a single subnet is normal and
> expected,...they cannot be stopped without hacking the registry on one
> machine to tell it to never be a Master Browser,...however that is not a
> solution for machines that are mobile (like laptops).
>
> Browser elections are perfectly normal and expected.
>
>> The master browser has received a server announcement from the computer
>> MY-PC that believes that it is the master browser for the domain on
>> transport NetBT_Tcpip_{C8DF592A-0C35-42EF-AB81-4A8E24570948. The master
>> browser is stopping or an election is being forced.

>
> This is a perfectly normal and expected "alert". It is not an "error"
> because there is nothing wrong with anything,..it is simply an "alert" for
> information purposes. Browser elections are not going to knock down your
> wireless connection,..it just ain't gonna happen,..the two don't even live
> in the same world or have anything to do with each other. It's kinda like
> saying that turning on the Television is making the tire on the car go
> flat out in the driveway.
>
> Whatever is knocking down the connection is something totally different.
> Unfortuneately, I have no idea what it would be. It could be a crappy
> Access Point or Wireless "router", or crappy firmware on those devices, or
> crappy Nic (or firmware), or power saver setting on the laptop or nic
> causing them to "go to sleep", or RF Radio interferrence like cordless
> Phones in the house, or someone starting up the microwave oven for some
> snacks. Just sit the laptop close to the micowave oven, turn the oven on
> and watch what happens.
>
>
> --
> Phillip Windell
> www.wandtv.com
>
> The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or
> Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
>


 
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