Have I worked out what I need correctly?

Hello

I will be going broadband, I want to connect 2 computers at a time. Am I
correct in the following?

Contact Tiscali (my currect ISP) and get a date for switchover.
Buy a wireless modem router such as Dynamode ADSL2/2+ Wireless 125mbps 4
port Modem/Router
Buy two USB wireless sticks such as DabsValue Edimax 802.11g 54Mbps USB
Stick.
Plug the router in where my current dial up wire (and land line phone) goes.
Connect a filter into the same socket.
Read the instructions that come with the router and sticks before installing
any software.


Regards


John

"Eatmorepies" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hello
>
> I will be going broadband, I want to connect 2 computers at a time. Am I
> correct in the following?
>
> Contact Tiscali (my currect ISP) and get a date for switchover.
> Buy a wireless modem router such as Dynamode ADSL2/2+ Wireless 125mbps 4
> port Modem/Router
> Buy two USB wireless sticks such as DabsValue Edimax 802.11g 54Mbps USB
> Stick.
> Plug the router in where my current dial up wire (and land line phone)
> goes.
> Connect a filter into the same socket.
> Read the instructions that come with the router and sticks before
> installing any software.

Don't forget to fit microfilters on ALL the other phone sockets!

It's simpler not to use wireless provided that your computers already have
Ethernet ports. Any computer younger than about 5 years will normally have
Ethernet built-in. In any case **always** use the Ethernet connection to
configure the router first, and to set up the wireless configuration. Then
when the wireless does not work, you can plug in the Ethernet cable to debug
the problem.

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>
> Don't forget to fit microfilters on ALL the other phone sockets!
>
> It's simpler not to use wireless provided that your computers already have
> Ethernet ports. Any computer younger than about 5 years will normally
> have Ethernet built-in. In any case **always** use the Ethernet
> connection to configure the router first, and to set up the wireless
> configuration. Then when the wireless does not work, you can plug in the
> Ethernet cable to debug the problem.
>
> --
> Graham J
>

Thanks for that - the 2 machines do have ethernet cards in them (20 month
old Dells) I was hoping to avoid running new cables though.

John

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> >
> > Don't forget to fit microfilters on ALL the other phone
> > sockets! It's simpler not to use wireless provided that your
> > computers already have Ethernet ports. Any computer
> > younger than about 5 years will normally have Ethernet
> > built-in. In any case **always** use the Ethernet
> > connection to configure the router first, and to set up
> > the wireless configuration. Then when the wireless
> > does not work, you can plug in the Ethernet cable to
> > debug the problem. --
> > Graham J
> >
>
> Thanks for that - the 2 machines do have ethernet cards
> in them (20 month old Dells) I was hoping to avoid
> running new cables though.


Cable is always better than wireless, use it if at all possible. Apart
from the security aspects, wireless can be slow at times, particularly if
several people are using the connection at the same time. This happens
with cable, of course, but it's more noticeable on a wireless link.

Ivor

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> Don't forget to fit microfilters on ALL the other phone sockets!

....including any connected to a Sky digibox. If I had a pound for every
time I've seen this, I'd have at least a tenner :-/

> It's simpler not to use wireless provided that your computers already have
> Ethernet ports. Any computer younger than about 5 years will normally have
> Ethernet built-in. In any case **always** use the Ethernet connection to
> configure the router first, and to set up the wireless configuration. Then
> when the wireless does not work, you can plug in the Ethernet cable to debug
> the problem.

"when the wireless does not work"? Forever the optimist then ;-)

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> Thanks for that - the 2 machines do have ethernet cards in them (20 month
> old Dells) I was hoping to avoid running new cables though.

You can set the router up without having it plugged into the phone,
although some ISP's do expect there to be an ADSL signal on the line
when installing the configuration to the router. Dunno if that is going
to be the case with your install...

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> In article <enectg$hpe$1$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> (E-Mail Removed) thought we might be interested in the
> following...
>
>> Don't forget to fit microfilters on ALL the other phone sockets!
>
> ...including any connected to a Sky digibox. If I had a pound for
> every time I've seen this, I'd have at least a tenner :-/
>
>> It's simpler not to use wireless provided that your computers
>> already have Ethernet ports. Any computer younger than about 5
>> years will normally have Ethernet built-in. In any case **always**
>> use the Ethernet connection to configure the router first, and to
>> set up the wireless configuration. Then when the wireless does not
>> work, you can plug in the Ethernet cable to debug the problem.
>
> "when the wireless does not work"? Forever the optimist then ;-)

I don't think that anyone has explicitly mentioned wireless security. I
would add this to the OP's ToDo list in the form of:
"Gain a thorough understanding of the security risks associated with
wireless networking, and implement suitable security measures to mitigate
these risks"

It is precisely when configuring a router to set up the security measures
that it is all too easy to do something which stops it from communicating
wirelessly. You are then stuffed unless you have a *wired* connection 'cos
you can't talk to the router to correct the config error.

All things considered, I would use wireless only as a last resort - in cases
where it's genuinely difficult to use cables between router and computers,
or where the computers (e.g. laptops) need to be operated in lots of
different locations within the house.
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"Eatmorepies" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hello
>
> I will be going broadband, I want to connect 2 computers at a time. Am I
> correct in the following?
>
Wireless will be so much fun, it can be a pain to keep it running depending
on what you buy.

Most wireless ADSL routers will come with a setup CD and do everything for
you. Just follow the instructions on the screen and it will guide you.
Then install the wireless cards or USB adapters to the main PCs. One thing
you should remember is that if you do not use WPA-PSK security then anyone
passing can use your connection. You will be responsible - and try proving
it wasn't you!
Your main PCs will detect the network and ask for the WPA-PSK key, once you
put that in they "should" connect and obtain an IP number from the router.

With Tiscali you might be better installing their modem on one PC first and
making sure the connection is working. Then plug the wireless router in and
configure it.
For the first few days the connection will be all over the place while it is
being set up.

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> Wireless will be so much fun, it can be a pain to keep it running depending
> on what you buy.

I run both, that is, a wired and wireless network.

The wired part of the network utilises a Draytek router.
The w..e.ess p.rt has a N.tge.r DG.34 used as an ac.ess po.nt.

No problems I've noticed.

;-)


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> In article <459ac9a5$(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed)
> thought we might be interested in the following...
>
>> Wireless will be so much fun, it can be a pain to keep it running
>> depending
>> on what you buy.
>
> I run both, that is, a wired and wireless network.
>
> The wired part of the network utilises a Draytek router.
> The w..e.ess p.rt has a N.tge.r DG.34 used as an ac.ess po.nt.
>
> No problems I've noticed.
>
Draytek also offer wireless routers ...

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