What is happening here???? Any ideia?????

Hello.
I just went to a friends house to check on a problem he had (still has) on
his wireless network.

He's got a netgear wireless router (don't know the model) it looks really
fancy and its a perfect match for a mac pc, the NICs he's ussing are from
netgear as well.

While ussing the router's DHCP server the wireless network card on his PC
gets the following settings;

IP.: 169.254.73.224
Subnet.: 255.255.0.0
D. Gateway.: non
DNS.: non

The router is setup to the following IP range.: 192.168.0.1 - 10 being 1 the
routers IP.

Ovecourse there's no need to say that he can't go into the internet as the
IP given to the PC is completely diferent from the other IP range classified
as classe C and this IP if memorie isn't running short its classe B.

It connects to the wireless network though but it says that its limited
connection.

When setting the network manually,

IP.: 192.168.0.2
Subnet.: 255.255.255.0
D. Gatewaty.: 192.168.0.1
DNS.: 192.168.0.1

It connects to the local area network with no problem but still no internet
what so ever.

Any ideia on this, what happening here???? Never seen this happening.

Cheers
Carlos

On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:53:34 +0100, "Carlos Arruda"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:


>While ussing the router's DHCP server the wireless network card on his PC
>gets the following settings;
>
>IP.: 169.254.73.224

I think that's one of the automatically generated addresses suggesting
that DHCP isn't working, possibly because the wireless link isn't
actually correct?


>It connects to the wireless network though but it says that its limited
>connection.

Are you happy the other settings are correct (any encryption, filters
etc?)
>
>When setting the network manually,
>
>IP.: 192.168.0.2
>Subnet.: 255.255.255.0
>D. Gatewaty.: 192.168.0.1
>DNS.: 192.168.0.1

From my experience, once it can't get DHCP setting the addresses
manually rarely works (unless it's *just* a DHCP issue) ;-)
>
>It connects to the local area network with no problem but still no internet
>what so ever.

What, you can see other shares on the local net?
>
>Any ideia on this, what happening here???? Never seen this happening.

I have .. normally when there is some sort of failure in the comms
(I/P) stack (or summat) .. often after a big virus cleanup (on PC's
not Macs) ;-)


All the best ..

T i m

"T i m" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:53:34 +0100, "Carlos Arruda"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>
>>While ussing the router's DHCP server the wireless network card on his PC
>>gets the following settings;
>>
>>IP.: 169.254.73.224
>
> I think that's one of the automatically generated addresses suggesting
> that DHCP isn't working, possibly because the wireless link isn't
> actually correct?
>
>
>>It connects to the wireless network though but it says that its limited
>>connection.
>
> Are you happy the other settings are correct (any encryption, filters
> etc?)
>>
>>When setting the network manually,
>>
>>IP.: 192.168.0.2
>>Subnet.: 255.255.255.0
>>D. Gatewaty.: 192.168.0.1
>>DNS.: 192.168.0.1
>
> From my experience, once it can't get DHCP setting the addresses
> manually rarely works (unless it's *just* a DHCP issue) ;-)
>>
>>It connects to the local area network with no problem but still no
>>internet
>>what so ever.
>
> What, you can see other shares on the local net?
>>
>>Any ideia on this, what happening here???? Never seen this happening.
>
> I have .. normally when there is some sort of failure in the comms
> (I/P) stack (or summat) .. often after a big virus cleanup (on PC's
> not Macs) ;-)
>
>
> All the best ..
>
> T i m

Yes, after setting it manually I have no probs it connects propperly and it
pings the router and asks for the shared key and everything....

Cheers,
carlos

On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 00:49:17 +0100, "Carlos Arruda"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:


>
>Yes, after setting it manually I have no probs it connects propperly and it
>pings the router and asks for the shared key and everything....

Might be a DNS issue then (asuming you know the link to the net is up
and running?)

Can you ping somewhere else like Hotmail? ( 212.162.1.124 ) if you can
ping the router?

If 'yes' then I think it might be a DNS issue (but I'm no expert here)
... can you see values for the DNS (pri / sec)?

have you tried pinging www.hotmail.com for example?

All the best ..

T i m

"T i m" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 00:49:17 +0100, "Carlos Arruda"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Yes, after setting it manually I have no probs it connects propperly and
>>it
>>pings the router and asks for the shared key and everything....
>
> Might be a DNS issue then (asuming you know the link to the net is up
> and running?)
>
> Can you ping somewhere else like Hotmail? ( 212.162.1.124 ) if you can
> ping the router?
>
> If 'yes' then I think it might be a DNS issue (but I'm no expert here)
> .. can you see values for the DNS (pri / sec)?
>
> have you tried pinging www.hotmail.com for example?
>
> All the best ..
>
> T i m

Yes I did and it pings on a laptop but not o this PC.
This happend after my friend made an update in his AOL conection.
Yes I can see the DNS Prim and Sec on the router's settings when its
connected to the internet...

Cheers,
Carlos

Gateway should be 192.168.1.1 , computer(s) 192,168.1.2 onwards.
DNS should be the IP address of your ISP DNS server !
E.g. 212.159.13.49 for Plus.Net - you can use that one if you don't know
your ISP's one.
Regards,
Martin

"Martin²" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:42aa3287$0$41907$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Gateway should be 192.168.1.1 , computer(s) 192,168.1.2 onwards.
> DNS should be the IP address of your ISP DNS server !
> E.g. 212.159.13.49 for Plus.Net - you can use that one if you don't know
> your ISP's one.
> Regards,
> Martin
>

Hello Martin,
The router (gateway) IP is 192.168.0.1, therefore the gateway is
192.168.0.1.
The pcs are 192.168.0.2 and 3.
The DNS is the router's IP as it has the DNS servers for the AOL.
With these settings there's no reasson not to work.
Cheers,
Carlos

On 11 Jun 2005 07:15 GMT, "Carlos Arruda" wrote:

>The DNS is the router's IP as it has the DNS servers for the AOL.
>With these settings there's no reasson not to work.

One of the things which is unusual about AOL is that the MTU setting is
different to 'standard'. One of the routers I've seen has sections in
red (and the first page says 'AOL user click here' or similar), so to
say 'there's no reason not to work' when talking about AOL is not so
easily guaranteed ! No, I don't know about the settings, I've not
wanted to find out about AOL, even if some people swear it is OK!!

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On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:24:08 +0100, Peter M <us-(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>One of the things which is unusual about AOL is that the MTU setting is
>different to 'standard'.

i think its 1400, as opposed to the 1500 ethernet standard. So while a
VPN application might work with a 1420 packet size wrapped in VPN
headers over a standard link it would croak if trying to squeeze into
AOL's 1400.

If the OP can take 100 off the packet size used by the VPN then it may
help.

Phil
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"Carlos Arruda" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hello.
> I just went to a friends house to check on a problem he had (still has) on
> his wireless network.
>
> He's got a netgear wireless router (don't know the model) it looks really
> fancy and its a perfect match for a mac pc, the NICs he's ussing are from
> netgear as well.
>
> While ussing the router's DHCP server the wireless network card on his PC
> gets the following settings;
>
> IP.: 169.254.73.224
> Subnet.: 255.255.0.0
> D. Gateway.: non
> DNS.: non
>

Not hugely helpful, but the 169.254.xx.xx range is given when the PC is
unable to obtain an ip address, its a default private address.

Gaz