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Sacramento.Cyclist@gmail.com
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      01-21-2007, 06:22 AM
I would like to get a wireless signal over to another location about a
quarter mile (about 1500 feet) from here. That's the good news.

The bad news is its an obstructed path. There are a couple of wood
frame structures in the way. Going over the top might be practical on
one end, but not the other. So...

Since its a fairly short path as paths seem to go, can I just
"brute force" a signal over there? Or does this path fail even the
"laugh test"?

A 22 dbi gain grid antenna and signal booster is more than
reasonable on this end. A flat panel antenna out the second story
window, and even an amp on the other is possible. Can this work?

Thanks for your thoughts,

Dennis

 
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      01-21-2007, 04:18 PM
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>I would like to get a wireless signal over to another location about a
> quarter mile (about 1500 feet) from here. That's the good news.
>
> The bad news is its an obstructed path. There are a couple of wood
> frame structures in the way. Going over the top might be practical on
> one end, but not the other. So...
>
> Since its a fairly short path as paths seem to go, can I just
> "brute force" a signal over there? Or does this path fail even the
> "laugh test"?
>
> A 22 dbi gain grid antenna and signal booster is more than
> reasonable on this end. A flat panel antenna out the second story
> window, and even an amp on the other is possible. Can this work?


Depending on exactly how much you have to go thru you might look at some of
the 900Mhz data radios out there.. they penetrate obsticals alot better.



 
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      01-21-2007, 05:04 PM
Thanks Adair...I browsed the net and am suffering sticker shock ....

$1000/pair of 900mhz data radios seems to be typical...am I looking in
the wrong place?

for example...


http://www.maxstream.net/products/xp...net-bridge.php

and

http://www.moonblinkwifi.com/pd_900mhz_outdoor.cfm

Suggestions welcomed...

Dennis

On Jan 21, 9:18 am, "Adair Witner" <buhbear...@mail.com> wrote:
> <Sacramento.Cycl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >I would like to get a wireless signal over to another location about a
> > quarter mile (about 1500 feet) from here. That's the good news.

>
> > The bad news is its an obstructed path. There are a couple of wood
> > frame structures in the way. Going over the top might be practical on
> > one end, but not the other. So...

>
> > Since its a fairly short path as paths seem to go, can I just
> > "brute force" a signal over there? Or does this path fail even the
> > "laugh test"?

>
> > A 22 dbi gain grid antenna and signal booster is more than
> > reasonable on this end. A flat panel antenna out the second story
> > window, and even an amp on the other is possible. Can this work?Depending on exactly how much you have to go thru you might look at some of

> the 900Mhz data radios out there.. they penetrate obsticals alot better.


 
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      01-21-2007, 05:19 PM

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> I would like to get a wireless signal over to another location about a
> quarter mile (about 1500 feet) from here. That's the good news.
>
> The bad news is its an obstructed path. There are a couple of wood
> frame structures in the way. Going over the top might be practical on
> one end, but not the other. So...


Can you go around using two hops.


 
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      01-21-2007, 05:27 PM
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> I would like to get a wireless signal over to another location about a
> quarter mile (about 1500 feet) from here. That's the good news.
>
> The bad news is its an obstructed path. There are a couple of wood
> frame structures in the way. Going over the top might be practical on
> one end, but not the other. So...


Perhaps a repeater at mid-point?
 
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Jeff Liebermann
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      01-21-2007, 05:46 PM
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>$1000/pair of 900mhz data radios seems to be typical...am I looking in
>the wrong place?
>http://www.maxstream.net/products/xp...net-bridge.php
>http://www.moonblinkwifi.com/pd_900mhz_outdoor.cfm


900MHz has it's own collection of problems. I've had quite a bit of
experience dealing with the long dead Metricom/Ricochet 900MHz radios.
900MHz will go quite nicely through a forest. It will NOT go through
a building, brick wall, or hill side. NLOS is science fiction.

Maxstream and Freewave radios have about 100Kbits/sec max thruput.
They are intended primarily for SCADA and data telemetry, not ISP
service. I suspect you might find this a bit slow.

For more speed and something more suitable, see:
http://www.wavewireless.com (WaveRider)
http://www.trangobroadband.com/produ...0s.shtml?id=bb
http://www.avalanwireless.com
http://motorola.canopywireless.com

The Waverider hardware was originally designed for long range ISP
service in forested areas.

You won't like the prices.

One 900MHz AP and two clients for only $3,000.
<http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=417777>


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