going live in 3 weeks

we are getting broadband in 3 weeks time
and i need to know what i need to network 2 pcs for broadband

my mate says i need an ethernet 10/100 network card in each pc a modem
router and cable isthis right and will we need a modem for each pc

cheers

"grolsch" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> we are getting broadband in 3 weeks time
> and i need to know what i need to network 2 pcs for broadband
>
> my mate says i need an ethernet 10/100 network card in each pc a modem
> router and cable isthis right and will we need a modem for each pc
>
> cheers
>
>
Yes, this is essentially correct. You will need a ethernet card in each
machine but then you have the following choices:-

Connect each PC to a broadband router (which has a built-in modem) such as a
DSL-504. The advantage of this is that the PC's are not dependent on each
other.

The other choice is to connect your two PC's together using a hub instead of
a router and have a single modem connected to one of your PC's. The
disadvantage of this is that your PC with the modem must always be switched
on in order to provide internet connectivity to the other PC.

My advice would be to use a router. Take a look at
http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/ to see what is available - I'm not saying
these guys are the cheapest but their web site will give you an idea of what
kit is available.

- Clive

There is a third option, the one I'm using: connect the ethernet cards by a
twisted pair cable - not patch - (£1.50 B&Q metre) and use Windows' built in
ICF(?) prog to link them via a LAN. Both machines have to be running for the
link to work
I'm using Windows XP on both machines which allegedly makes it easier.
Get your internet link working first then set up the LAN and watch out for
virus checkers and fire walls blocking, these really can cause
hair-destroying problems, turn them off on the client machine.
I have this working but I did not found it as simple as it should have been,
cos of the firewalls etc. Still fine tuning, but it's interesting.
Buying a router's probably much easier.


> > we are getting broadband in 3 weeks time
> > and i need to know what i need to network 2 pcs for broadband
> >
> > my mate says i need an ethernet 10/100 network card in each pc a modem
> > router and cable isthis right and will we need a modem for each pc
> >
> > cheers
> >
> >
> Yes, this is essentially correct. You will need a ethernet card in each
> machine but then you have the following choices:-
>
> Connect each PC to a broadband router (which has a built-in modem) such as
a
> DSL-504. The advantage of this is that the PC's are not dependent on each
> other.
>
> The other choice is to connect your two PC's together using a hub instead
of
> a router and have a single modem connected to one of your PC's. The
> disadvantage of this is that your PC with the modem must always be
switched
> on in order to provide internet connectivity to the other PC.
>
> My advice would be to use a router. Take a look at
> http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/ to see what is available - I'm not saying
> these guys are the cheapest but their web site will give you an idea of
what
> kit is available.
>
> - Clive
>
>

"Philip Wagstaff" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:3f76f7f5$(E-Mail Removed)...

" There is a third option, the one I'm using: connect the ethernet cards by
a twisted pair cable - not patch - (£1.50 B&Q metre) and use Windows' built
in ICF(?) prog to link them via a LAN. Both machines have to be running for
the link to work I'm using Windows XP on both machines which allegedly makes
it easier. Get your internet link working first then set up the LAN and
watch out for virus checkers and fire walls blocking, these really can cause
hair-destroying problems, turn them off on the client machine. I have this
working but I did not found it as simple as it should have been, cos of the
firewalls etc. Still fine tuning, but it's interesting. Buying a router's
probably much easier. "


This is the cheapest option, and you use a Crossover Cable between the two
Network Interface Cards (NICs), as opposed to a patch cable. If you do use
Internet Connection Sharing (ICS), then the *gateway* PC will need to be
running Windows 98 Second Edition (Win98SE) or above, as previous versions
didn't have ICS. You will need to connect the ADSL modem (which you should
get from your ISP) to the gateway PC, and this PC will also need to be
running for the second PC to access the internet.

You might also do well to download the free version of ZoneAlarm from
http://tinyurl.com/kzq , which you should set up on the gateway PC only (if
using ICS). If you are running XP on the gateway, then it is best to turn
off the XP firewall if you are running ZoneAlarm.

You can also brush up on your knowledge of network cabling here:
http://www.cat5ecableguy.com/fdsf.html

> This is the cheapest option, and you use a Crossover Cable between the two
> Network Interface Cards (NICs), as opposed to a patch cable. If you do
use
> Internet Connection Sharing (ICS), then the *gateway* PC will need to be
> running Windows 98 Second Edition (Win98SE) or above, as previous versions
> didn't have ICS. You will need to connect the ADSL modem (which you
should
> get from your ISP) to the gateway PC, and this PC will also need to be
> running for the second PC to access the internet.

I agree with every thing above except the "get the modem from your ISP".
Mine wanted £70, I bought a Dynamode from PC World for £23. Works fine.
>
> You might also do well to download the free version of ZoneAlarm from
> http://tinyurl.com/kzq , which you should set up on the gateway PC only
(if
> using ICS). If you are running XP on the gateway, then it is best to turn
> off the XP firewall if you are running ZoneAlarm.
>
> You can also brush up on your knowledge of network cabling here:
> http://www.cat5ecableguy.com/fdsf.html
>
>
>

I have gone totally wireless having subscibed to UkOnline (
www.ukonline.co.uk) and with the supplied Wireless/router and wireless card
have been able to connect 3 computers and a laptop without any problem. The
laptop will even work in the garden! Basic cost £90 for modem/router, with
free connection and £27.99 per month. Up and running within 5 days of going
live.

"grolsch" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> we are getting broadband in 3 weeks time
> and i need to know what i need to network 2 pcs for broadband
>
> my mate says i need an ethernet 10/100 network card in each pc a modem
> router and cable isthis right and will we need a modem for each pc
>
> cheers
>
>

"Philip Wagstaff" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:3f771965$(E-Mail Removed)...

" I agree with every thing above except the *get the modem from your ISP*.
Mine wanted £70, I bought a Dynamode from PC World for £23. Works fine. "


That's true, they are stich-up merchants. I'm guessing it might have
already been paid for if there is an activation date set for three weeks'
time.

There is a 4th option - a scrap PC running a suitable firewall, into a
10base2 (aka thin coax) network running (almost) anywhere in the house.
Depends what you've got in the scrapbox (or can cadge).
Bob