How to go Wireless with NTL through TV Box

Hi
I'm asking this on behalf of my neighbour.

They have NTL TV and broadband.
The TV comes through one of those set top boxes
The broadband comes from a wire in the back of the TV box and then into
the laptop via USB (because there is no network card installed I
think).

They want to go wireless now.
What hardwware is need to do this?
Does the TV box have a modem built in?
Do they need just a router? Or would a router with built-in modem be
better?

Thanks in advance
Mark

On 3 Dec 2005 04:17:23 -0800, "Yonnermark"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>They have NTL TV and broadband.
>The TV comes through one of those set top boxes
>The broadband comes from a wire in the back of the TV box and then into
>the laptop via USB (because there is no network card installed I
>think).

ask NTL how to get an ethernet connection, plug it into a broadband
wireless router.

Phil
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On 3 Dec, in article
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(E-Mail Removed) "Yonnermark" wrote:

> Hi
> I'm asking this on behalf of my neighbour.
>
> They have NTL TV and broadband.
> The TV comes through one of those set top boxes
> The broadband comes from a wire in the back of the TV box and then into
> the laptop via USB (because there is no network card installed I
> think).
>
> They want to go wireless now.
> What hardwware is need to do this?
> Does the TV box have a modem built in?
> Do they need just a router? Or would a router with built-in modem be
> better?

Something sounds a little odd in all this, and I wonder if there's some
detail missing between TV box and laptop. But USB-to-ethernet adaptors
are common enough, and the TV box might have a USB outlet.

What you'd use normally is a Router that connects to the modem with
Ethernet. The ethernet connector looks like a slightly wider version of
the usual connector on an ADSL lead.

NTL, and other broadband over cable TV providers, don't use a system
compatible with ADSL hardware, so a router/modem combination is wasted
money. Otherwise, you're looking for the same general features of
firewalling, NAT, etc. Just remember to allow for another power lead for
the router, but there's no reason why it has to be near the TV. Site it
to get good wireless coverage, the ethernet cable can be quite long.

--
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"Yonnermark" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi
> I'm asking this on behalf of my neighbour.
>

Tell your neighbour to contact NTL or do a bit of research yourself for
them. If you can find this group then I am sure you can use GOOGLE or look
in computer shop. www.chetnet.co.uk has a forum for NTL people, but it
might actually involve you going to the site and reading some of the posts.

"Yonnermark" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed) oups.com:

> Hi
> I'm asking this on behalf of my neighbour.
>
> They have NTL TV and broadband.
> The TV comes through one of those set top boxes
> The broadband comes from a wire in the back of the TV box and
> then into the laptop via USB (because there is no network card
> installed I think).
>
> They want to go wireless now.
> What hardwware is need to do this?
> Does the TV box have a modem built in?
> Do they need just a router? Or would a router with built-in
> modem be better?
>

The set-top box has abuilt-in modem that has Ethernet and USB ports
- one at a time. They need a wireless router and wireless adapter
for the laptop.

See here for details:
<http://www.networklab.co.uk/cmodem/wireless.html>

On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 12:54:37 +0000 (GMT), (E-Mail Removed)
("David G. Bell") wrote:

>But USB-to-ethernet adaptors
>are common enough

only in people's heads, you can connect a gas pipe to a water pipe
with an adaptor with a similar degree of success.

Phil
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"Phil Thompson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On 3 Dec 2005 04:17:23 -0800, "Yonnermark"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>They have NTL TV and broadband.
>>The TV comes through one of those set top boxes
>>The broadband comes from a wire in the back of the TV box and then into
>>the laptop via USB (because there is no network card installed I
>>think).
>
> ask NTL how to get an ethernet connection, plug it into a broadband
> wireless router.
>
> Phil
> --
> Tiscali - dialup speeds at Broadband prices, see
> http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/postlist...&Board=tiscali
>
> AOL - the unlimited ISP of choice for heavy downloaders.

T he STB connect either connects direct to a network card in the PC or NTL
provide a USB Network adaptor which plugs into the USB port on the PC and
then connects to the STB via an ethernet cable (this can be straight through
or a cross over cable depending on the STB.

So I would guess you run a network cable from the STB to the wireless
router, install the wireless card into the PC then follow ant setup
instructions with each piece of equipment.

I dont use wireless but this is how I would expect it to connect up

Leigh

On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 12:30:59 +0000, in uk.telecom.broadband , Phil
Thompson <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On 3 Dec 2005 04:17:23 -0800, "Yonnermark"
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>They have NTL TV and broadband.
>>The TV comes through one of those set top boxes
>>The broadband comes from a wire in the back of the TV box and then into
>>the laptop via USB (because there is no network card installed I
>>think).
>
>ask NTL how to get an ethernet connection, plug it into a broadband
>wireless router.

The STBs have both ethernet and USB ports.

Just get a cable-ready wireless router, plug it into the ethernet port
on the STB, reboot everything (STB, router, PCs) and off you go.

Configure your router using a wired connection before trying wireless
by teh way.
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On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 15:50:41 +0000, in uk.telecom.broadband , Phil
Thompson <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 12:54:37 +0000 (GMT), (E-Mail Removed)
>("David G. Bell") wrote:
>
>>But USB-to-ethernet adaptors are common enough
>
>only in people's heads,

Are you smoking something funny?
http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx...175&PageMode=1
for example.
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Mark McIntyre wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 15:50:41 +0000, in uk.telecom.broadband , Phil
> Thompson <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 12:54:37 +0000 (GMT), (E-Mail Removed)
>> ("David G. Bell") wrote:
>>
>>> But USB-to-ethernet adaptors are common enough
>>
>> only in people's heads,
>
> Are you smoking something funny?
> http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx...175&PageMode=1
> for example.

He hasn't seen what the BT ADSL engineers have to use nowadays, it's not
pretty but it does the job (made by Belkin can't recall the model
number)...