getting a wireless LAN on laptop to connect to LAN on desktop?(homenetwork)

hi,

ok i don't know much about this stuff so i'm sorry if i say something
silly.

Scenario:
I have one DESKTOP and one LAPTOP.

The *Desktop* has Two (NON-wireless regular) LAN cards, one of them
gets me my broadband internet connection .

Now, the laptop(i just got today) has an Integrated Wireless LAN
802.11 b/g, i'm not sure how this compares to Wi-Fi or if it is wifi,
it also has a **56K Modem**(if i can use that for the network?)

Requirement:
I need to make a network between the wireless Lan on my laptop and the
Lan on my desktop. I Know how to setup a network on XP , but I've
never gone wireless before, so my question really is .. __What do I
need on my Desktop__ so that ITS LAN (on the PCI slot) can connect to
my laptops wireless LAN? Will some bluetooth dongle do? What are my
options??

Thank You
Gideon

"giddy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:c49f6976-ec65-468c-84d7-(E-Mail Removed)...
> hi,
>
> ok i don't know much about this stuff so i'm sorry if i say something
> silly.
>
> Scenario:
> I have one DESKTOP and one LAPTOP.
>
> The *Desktop* has Two (NON-wireless regular) LAN cards, one of them
> gets me my broadband internet connection .
>
> Now, the laptop(i just got today) has an Integrated Wireless LAN
> 802.11 b/g, i'm not sure how this compares to Wi-Fi or if it is wifi,
> it also has a **56K Modem**(if i can use that for the network?)
>
> Requirement:
> I need to make a network between the wireless Lan on my laptop and the
> Lan on my desktop. I Know how to setup a network on XP , but I've
> never gone wireless before, so my question really is .. __What do I
> need on my Desktop__ so that ITS LAN (on the PCI slot) can connect to
> my laptops wireless LAN? Will some bluetooth dongle do? What are my
> options??
>
> Thank You
> Gideon

You need a wireless router to broadcast a signal to your laptop. Any router
you buy will have setup diagrams and instructions. I recommend a Linksys G
or SpeedBoost G model.such as WRT54G or WRT54GS.

"giddy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:c49f6976-ec65-468c-84d7-(E-Mail Removed)...
> hi,
>
> ok i don't know much about this stuff so i'm sorry if i say something
> silly.
>
> Scenario:
> I have one DESKTOP and one LAPTOP.
>
> The *Desktop* has Two (NON-wireless regular) LAN cards, one of them
> gets me my broadband internet connection .
>
what is your Broadband service ?
Cable ? DSL ?
What "box" is connected, and how is it connected to your Desktop ?

What makes you think your desktop has TWO LAN cards ?
Are you sure one is not a LAN and the other is a modem (smaller telephone
jack)

> Now, the laptop(i just got today) has an Integrated Wireless LAN
> 802.11 b/g, i'm not sure how this compares to Wi-Fi or if it is wifi,
> it also has a **56K Modem**(if i can use that for the network?)
>
> Requirement:
> I need to make a network between the wireless Lan on my laptop and the
> Lan on my desktop. I Know how to setup a network on XP , but I've
> never gone wireless before, so my question really is .. __What do I
> need on my Desktop__ so that ITS LAN (on the PCI slot) can connect to
> my laptops wireless LAN? Will some bluetooth dongle do? What are my
> options??
>

Are you trying to get the new Laptop connected to the Desktop to share files
or printer ?
OR just get the laptop connected to the Internet via wireless ?
OR both ?

hi,

I'm sorry i wasn't clear enough, I'm not that much of a newbie to this
kind of stuff.

I do have two LAN cards on my PC, one is inbuilt into the motherboard
and is how I receive my Broadband, the second card is one I INSTALLED
on a PCI slot.

I have a STP(i think) cable that i used earlier to connect a laptop I
borrowed to my Home computer, I managed to have it share my internet
and files. So, yes, i know how to create a network.

My question is now, I have a WIRELESS network card on MY NEW LAPTOP,
so can I/do I have to install on my desktop so that my laptop can talk
to it?? I figured i need a wireless LAN card or wireless router, ARE
there any other CHEAPER options??

Thanks
Gideon

hey,

sorry that was me,i posted with my mums address signed in.

ok, forget that I said I know how to create a network, I tried connect
with my Desktop and Laptop with a UTP(yep i had a utp) cable.

On my desktop the LAN that connects to the internet is set to share
its connection, i also enabled DHCP(67),DHCP(68) on it?
the _other_ LAN (on my desktp) is set with IP 192.168.0.1, subnet
2552552550.

The LAN on my laptop is set to obtain IP automatically, it has DHCP
enabled and somehow obtains a very odd IP, its nothing like the on the
LAN that connects to the internet?

I've set both computers to the same workgroup name? I also tried the
running the wizards on both computers,

The Problem:
The second LAN on my DESKTOP (that doesn't connect to the internet)
shows unplugged after I've plugged it all, also, the laptop complains
with limited connectivity?

Could someone please help me(And this time i WILL note it down
somewhere =S)

Thanks so much
Gideon

The missing piece of your puzzle is what is your internet coming in
on? What is the device? Number?

Although you can do internet connection sharing as you did before, it
won't be wireless - unless your cable or DSL modem is all-in-one, you
need a wireless router to do this right.

I suppose that if you insisted, there are ways to do this with your
spare ethernet card and a wireless access point, but it would not be
easier or better or cheaper than setting up your network the correct
way.

Get a wireless router. Even a cheap one can do the job. In the US
they are availible for $30 and up. If, as I suspect, you are in
outside of the US, (they are banned here), then I recommend a Buffalo
WHR-G54 or -G125 for cheap, reliable device that can do some extra
tricks later if you ever need to.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Buffalo-WHR-.../dp/B000BYR4PY

Cheapo router online for US
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833181219

Steve

giddy wrote:
> hey,
>
> sorry that was me,i posted with my mums address signed in.
>
> ok, forget that I said I know how to create a network, I tried connect
> with my Desktop and Laptop with a UTP(yep i had a utp) cable.
>
It would have worked had you used a "crossover" cable or a small hub
The Ethernet cable has a transmit pair & a receive pair... for going to
a hub.
Without the hub, the transmit is connecting to the transmit on the jack
vs the receive.

> On my desktop the LAN that connects to the internet is set to share
> its connection, i also enabled DHCP(67),DHCP(68) on it?
> the _other_ LAN (on my desktp) is set with IP 192.168.0.1, subnet
> 2552552550.
>
that's Internet Connection Sharing - a Windows feature

> The LAN on my laptop is set to obtain IP automatically, it has DHCP
> enabled and somehow obtains a very odd IP, its nothing like the on the
> LAN that connects to the internet?

A LAN is a physical set of wires/wireless - you are describing your
TCP/IP config
Did you get an IP address of 169.xx.xx. ?
That is the address Microsoft Windows creates when it can't get a DHCP
address.

> I've set both computers to the same workgroup name? I also tried the
> running the wizards on both computers,

> The Problem:
> The second LAN on my DESKTOP (that doesn't connect to the internet)
> shows unplugged after I've plugged it all, also, the laptop complains
> with limited connectivity?

it was your incorrect use of a "normal" Ethernet cable vs a "crossover"
cable

> Could someone please help me(And this time i WILL note it down
> somewhere =S)
>

I think others have suggested what you need -
A wireless capable router - to support both your wired desktop,
and your wireless laptop.

As I mentioned previously,
it would help to describe how you are currently connected to the Internet
and what "box" is between your desktop & your Internet connection.

Also - what laptop do you have,
and how do you know the wireless card is installed & working ?