Getting around @home IP limits

I have been using 3 windows 98se computers networked with a 4-port Netgear
Hub (DS104). Everything is gravy with that config.

I just bought a laptop, also with 98se, and am running into problems with
@home's 3-IP/household limit.

So, I grabbed a Netgear 4-port Websafe Router and plugged my cable modem
into it. I plugged two pcs into that, and then used the 4th port to
daisy-chain to the hub, into which I plugged the 3rd pc and the new laptop.

I can still only get 3 computers online, and what's even stranger, is that
if I can only get connected at all using external ips. ie, if I push the
uplink button on the router (I can't remember if it's to on or off) and then
release/renew the IPs so that they're internal (192...) I can not connect to
the internet at all. If I switch it the other way and release renew so that
the IPs are external (24....) then I can connect just fine.

Does anyone have any experience with this? How can I get all 4 pcs online
through @home Cable with my current hardware of 4 Win98se PCs, a netgear
4-port websafe router, and a netgear 4-port hub?

In article <eAv_b.4764$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Tweek"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>I have been using 3 windows 98se computers networked with a 4-port Netgear
>Hub (DS104). Everything is gravy with that config.
>
>I just bought a laptop, also with 98se, and am running into problems with
>@home's 3-IP/household limit.
>
>So, I grabbed a Netgear 4-port Websafe Router and plugged my cable modem
>into it. I plugged two pcs into that, and then used the 4th port to
>daisy-chain to the hub, into which I plugged the 3rd pc and the new laptop.
>
>I can still only get 3 computers online, and what's even stranger, is that
>if I can only get connected at all using external ips. ie, if I push the
>uplink button on the router (I can't remember if it's to on or off) and then
>release/renew the IPs so that they're internal (192...) I can not connect to
>the internet at all. If I switch it the other way and release renew so that
>the IPs are external (24....) then I can connect just fine.
>
>Does anyone have any experience with this? How can I get all 4 pcs online
>through @home Cable with my current hardware of 4 Win98se PCs, a netgear
>4-port websafe router, and a netgear 4-port hub?

I think that you've connected the cable modem to the wrong router
port. Connect it to the WAN (Internet) port, not to a LAN port.

Are you paying an extra monthly fee for the 2nd and 3rd IP addresses?
If so, you can cancel them and save money.
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This is not a Windows limitation, it's an @home limitation. You need a
router, not a hub or switch, if you want more than three computers to access
the Internet at once.

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"Tweek" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:eAv_b.4764$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have been using 3 windows 98se computers networked with a 4-port Netgear
> Hub (DS104). Everything is gravy with that config.
>
> I just bought a laptop, also with 98se, and am running into problems with
> @home's 3-IP/household limit.
>
> So, I grabbed a Netgear 4-port Websafe Router and plugged my cable modem
> into it. I plugged two pcs into that, and then used the 4th port to
> daisy-chain to the hub, into which I plugged the 3rd pc and the new
laptop.
>
> I can still only get 3 computers online, and what's even stranger, is that
> if I can only get connected at all using external ips. ie, if I push the
> uplink button on the router (I can't remember if it's to on or off) and
then
> release/renew the IPs so that they're internal (192...) I can not connect
to
> the internet at all. If I switch it the other way and release renew so
that
> the IPs are external (24....) then I can connect just fine.
>
> Does anyone have any experience with this? How can I get all 4 pcs online
> through @home Cable with my current hardware of 4 Win98se PCs, a netgear
> 4-port websafe router, and a netgear 4-port hub?
>
>

I bought a new Netgear wireless router and now have 4 computers happily
surfing the internet on @home. Wireless is the bomb... nothing like reading
Fark while taking a shit lol.

Richard G. Harper <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:OPCzmln#(E-Mail Removed)...
: This is not a Windows limitation, it's an @home limitation. You need a
: router, not a hub or switch, if you want more than three computers to
access
: the Internet at once.
:
: --
: Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] (E-Mail Removed)
: * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
: * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
: * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
:
:
: "Tweek" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
: news:eAv_b.4764$(E-Mail Removed)...
: > I have been using 3 windows 98se computers networked with a 4-port
Netgear
: > Hub (DS104). Everything is gravy with that config.
: >
: > I just bought a laptop, also with 98se, and am running into problems
with
: > @home's 3-IP/household limit.
: >
: > So, I grabbed a Netgear 4-port Websafe Router and plugged my cable
modem
: > into it. I plugged two pcs into that, and then used the 4th port to
: > daisy-chain to the hub, into which I plugged the 3rd pc and the new
: laptop.
: >
: > I can still only get 3 computers online, and what's even stranger, is
that
: > if I can only get connected at all using external ips. ie, if I push the
: > uplink button on the router (I can't remember if it's to on or off) and
: then
: > release/renew the IPs so that they're internal (192...) I can not
connect
: to
: > the internet at all. If I switch it the other way and release renew so
: that
: > the IPs are external (24....) then I can connect just fine.
: >
: > Does anyone have any experience with this? How can I get all 4 pcs
online
: > through @home Cable with my current hardware of 4 Win98se PCs, a netgear
: > 4-port websafe router, and a netgear 4-port hub?
: >
: >
:
: