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Herosmantle
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      11-21-2007, 04:46 PM

Ok so my connection has been playing up over the past few days, I really
have no idea whats wrong with it. The connection appears to be
"dropping" every few seconds, which I confirmed by trying to ping my
default gateway, which returned high ping times and "General Failure"
every so often.

The problem doesnt seem to happen all the time,

I've tried reinstalling drivers already but no luck there, same
problem. I'm going to just give as much info as i can and hope someone
has some idea of how to fix this, its driving me nuts!

::*_Information_*::

_OPERATING_SYSTEM_
Windows Vista 32 bit

_ROUTER_
SpeedTouch 585v6

_NETWORK_ADAPTER_
*Name:* Atheros AR5006EG Wireless Network Adapter
DRIVER VERSION:[/B] 7.3.1.109

[B]_IPCONFIG/ALL_
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : LiamsPC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : lan

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : lan
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Atheros AR5006EG Wireless
Network Adapter

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-16-E3-AF-65-CD
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
fe80::6d3d:35a0:e360:ef7f%12(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.65(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 21 November 2007 17:23:28
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 22 November 2007 17:23:28
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 201332451
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network
Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-A0-D1-66-5F-CA
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling
Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : lan
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
fe80::5efe:192.168.1.65%13(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
isatap.{BB5107DF-0CF9-42B8-B2DF-766AA42FC6B3}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

_PING_192.168.1.254_-N_1000_
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.254:
Packets: Sent = 1000, Received = 832, Lost = 168 (16% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 1054ms, Average = 26ms

_PING_GOOGLE.COM_
Pinging google.com [72.14.207.99] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=120ms TTL=242
General failure.
Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=122ms TTL=242
Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=131ms TTL=242

Ping statistics for 72.14.207.99:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 3, Lost = 1 (25% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 120ms, Maximum = 131ms, Average = 124ms


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Jeff Liebermann
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      11-22-2007, 02:24 AM
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:46:23 -0500, Herosmantle
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>Ok so my connection has been playing up over the past few days, I really
>have no idea whats wrong with it. The connection appears to be
>"dropping" every few seconds, which I confirmed by trying to ping my
>default gateway, which returned high ping times and "General Failure"
>every so often.


That can be in two differnt places.
1. The wireless link.
2. The internet link.
I can't tell which one if you ping through the router.
The next time you get a ping failure, also ping 192.168.1.254
which is the IP address of the router. If that also returns ping
failures, then your problem is on the wireless side. Might as well
start now. Run:
start -> run -> cmd <enter>
ping -t 192.168.1.254
Let it run for a few minutes.
1. Are all the lantency times roughly the same or are they all over
the place in value? If they vary widely, you're seeing some packet
loss, probably caused by interference from other networks. See the
list at:
<http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi#Interference>
for a shopping list of probable culprits.
2. If the wireless appears to NOT be the problem, plug your computah
into the router with a CAT5 cable. No wireless. Try pinging some
well connected web site at your ISP. That will minimize the chances
that you have some form of network constipation. Don't ignore this
part as I can see problems with your abreviated ping report below.

>The problem doesnt seem to happen all the time,


Perhaps it also doesn't happen none of the time? Any pattern? Any
particular duration? Any particular time of day? Numbers please.

>I've tried reinstalling drivers already but no luck there, same
>problem. I'm going to just give as much info as i can and hope someone
>has some idea of how to fix this, its driving me nuts!


I can tell you're a Windoze user. I think the official slogan is:
"Windoze. What do you want to reinstall today". It does work, but
some diagnostics are usually helpful. Vista has a nice collection of
wireless diagnostics. See:
<http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsVista/en/library/3ed3d027-5ae8-4cb0-ade5-0a7c446cd4f71033.mspx?mfr=true>
for Vista Wireless Diagnostics.

>_OPERATING_SYSTEM_
>Windows Vista 32 bit


Which one of the 4 different Vista mutations?

>_ROUTER_
>SpeedTouch 585v6


Have you checked for the lastest firmware?

>_NETWORK_ADAPTER_
>*Name:* Atheros AR5006EG Wireless Network Adapter
>DRIVER VERSION:[/B] 7.3.1.109


I can't check if this is the latest version without knowing the maker
and model number of the wireless card, and maker and model number of
the computer it's stuffed into.

>IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.65(Preferred)


I see you've discovered Vista does a crappy job of implimenting DHCP
and are using pre-assigned DHCP. See:
<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.internet.wireless/msg/cd8d480583867ee3>
for some fixes.

>_PING_192.168.1.254_-N_1000_
>Ping statistics for 192.168.1.254:
>Packets: Sent = 1000, Received = 832, Lost = 168 (16% loss),
>Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
>Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 1054ms, Average = 26ms


Big problem above. You're losing packets and the latency is far too
high. It should 1 or 2 msec, not an average of 26msec. I see you've
gotten a few at the correct 1msec, so there's probably nothing wrong
with the wireless setup, config, or installation. However, you're
also getting a large number of lost packets (16%) and very large
latency values. These are clear indications of interference.

Try a different RF channel and see if that helps.
Move the access point away from a window, where interference might
enter.
Check if anyone is running a microwave oven or cordless 2.4GHz phone.
If you have a directional antenna on the access point, move it to
where it is least likely to point to a source of interference.

>_PING_GOOGLE.COM_
>Pinging google.com [72.14.207.99] with 32 bytes of data:
>
>Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=120ms TTL=242
>General failure.
>Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=122ms TTL=242
>Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=131ms TTL=242
>
>Ping statistics for 72.14.207.99:
>Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 3, Lost = 1 (25% loss),
>Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
>Minimum = 120ms, Maximum = 131ms, Average = 124ms


Well, that's another problem. No way should Google return 120msec
unless you're on a slow dialup. I just tried it and got a more
realistic 11msec latency via a 1500/256kbit/sec DSL connection. Your
numbers could be due to the wireless latency. The only way to be sure
is to plug in a computah into the router, eliminate the wireless as a
source of additional delays and retest.


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      11-22-2007, 02:31 AM
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:46:23 -0500, Herosmantle
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>_OPERATING_SYSTEM_
>Windows Vista 32 bit


<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/aa905085.aspx>
Also, try this incantation:
start -> run -> cmd <enter>
netsh wlan show networks
netsh wlan show networks mode="bssid"

If you have any nearby networks that happen to be broadcasting their
SSID, this command will show them. (It's the same as "Show available
networks").

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