Gateway address needed

Having limited connection with new adapter so am giving own IP address
subnet etc. rather than auto configure. It worked once before on previous
computer.

However I need a gateway address.

I was given one once before that worked.

Any suggestions.

Nick

(posted this earlier on 24hr helpdesk - no luck)

Nottnick wrote:
> Having limited connection with new adapter so am giving own IP address
> subnet etc. rather than auto configure. It worked once before on previous
> computer.
>
> However I need a gateway address.
>
> I was given one once before that worked.
>
> Any suggestions.
>
> Nick
>
> (posted this earlier on 24hr helpdesk - no luck)

To the contrary, there *was* one idiotic response and then someone did
try to help. You don't just pluck a gateway out of the air and use it.
Can you specifically say what your router is and perhaps someone can
plug that info into Google and tell you a gateway address.

And just for the record, you waited exactly one hour and eight minutes
before posting to another group. Got to give it some time, guy.

"Rôgêr" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:15KdnTsig-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Nottnick wrote:
>> Having limited connection with new adapter so am giving own IP address
>> subnet etc. rather than auto configure. It worked once before on previous
>> computer.
>>
>> However I need a gateway address.
>>
>> I was given one once before that worked.
>>
>> Any suggestions.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> (posted this earlier on 24hr helpdesk - no luck)
>
> To the contrary, there *was* one idiotic response and then someone did try
> to help. You don't just pluck a gateway out of the air and use it. Can you
> specifically say what your router is and perhaps someone can plug that
> info into Google and tell you a gateway address.
>
> And just for the record, you waited exactly one hour and eight minutes
> before posting to another group. Got to give it some time, guy.

Point taken, I hang my head in shame.....
In mitigation, I went to 24hr helpdesk, then thought later that maybe there
was a wireless NG which would probably be a better place to post, I love the
24hr, a brilliant resource.
If I X post, I always say.

Regarding gateway, I have internet access still on home network, so should I
be able to find the info myself with google?
I have a Belkin adsl wireless router FSD7630.
Looked just now myself, but only found reviews.
Any help appreciated

Nottnick wrote:
> "Rôgêr" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:15KdnTsig-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>Nottnick wrote:
>>
>>>Having limited connection with new adapter so am giving own IP address
>>>subnet etc. rather than auto configure. It worked once before on previous
>>>computer.
>>>
>>>However I need a gateway address.
>>>
>>>I was given one once before that worked.
>>>
>>>Any suggestions.
>>>
>>>Nick
>>>
>>>(posted this earlier on 24hr helpdesk - no luck)
>>
>>To the contrary, there *was* one idiotic response and then someone did try
>>to help. You don't just pluck a gateway out of the air and use it. Can you
>>specifically say what your router is and perhaps someone can plug that
>>info into Google and tell you a gateway address.
>>
>>And just for the record, you waited exactly one hour and eight minutes
>>before posting to another group. Got to give it some time, guy.
>
>
> Point taken, I hang my head in shame.....
> In mitigation, I went to 24hr helpdesk, then thought later that maybe there
> was a wireless NG which would probably be a better place to post, I love the
> 24hr, a brilliant resource.
> If I X post, I always say.
>
> Regarding gateway, I have internet access still on home network, so should I
> be able to find the info myself with google?
> I have a Belkin adsl wireless router FSD7630.
> Looked just now myself, but only found reviews.
> Any help appreciated

My neighbor uses a Belkin router and her gateway is 192.168.2.1, give it
a shot, can't hurt. Why are you resistant to automatic settings?

Rôgêr wrote:
> Nottnick wrote:
>
>> "Rôgêr" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:15KdnTsig-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>> Nottnick wrote:
>>>
>>>> Having limited connection with new adapter so am giving own IP address
>>>> subnet etc. rather than auto configure. It worked once before on
>>>> previous
>>>> computer.
>>>>
>>>> However I need a gateway address.
>>>>
>>>> I was given one once before that worked.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> Nick
>>>>
>>>> (posted this earlier on 24hr helpdesk - no luck)
>>>
>>>
>>> To the contrary, there *was* one idiotic response and then someone
>>> did try to help. You don't just pluck a gateway out of the air and
>>> use it. Can you specifically say what your router is and perhaps
>>> someone can plug that info into Google and tell you a gateway address.
>>>
>>> And just for the record, you waited exactly one hour and eight
>>> minutes before posting to another group. Got to give it some time, guy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Point taken, I hang my head in shame.....
>> In mitigation, I went to 24hr helpdesk, then thought later that maybe
>> there was a wireless NG which would probably be a better place to
>> post, I love the 24hr, a brilliant resource.
>> If I X post, I always say.
>>
>> Regarding gateway, I have internet access still on home network, so
>> should I be able to find the info myself with google?
>> I have a Belkin adsl wireless router FSD7630.
>> Looked just now myself, but only found reviews.
>> Any help appreciated
>
>
> My neighbor uses a Belkin router and her gateway is 192.168.2.1, give it
> a shot, can't hurt. Why are you resistant to automatic settings?

I should have been more specific, that setting would be for the
computers to use to connect to the router, not for the router itself. If
you need the gateway setting for your router to connect through the ISP,
you need to check with tech support for the ISP. You are apparently
using BT in Europe.

> Having limited connection with new adapter so am giving own IP address
> subnet etc. rather than auto configure. It worked once before on previous
> computer.
>
> However I need a gateway address.
>
> I was given one once before that worked.

You cannot just pick them randomly. You need to know how they're already
being assinged. This is try wired or wirelessly. If you pick an address
that's already in use you'll cause both devices to fail. If the subnet
offers DHCP them USE IT. If they're not offering DHCP addresses then ASK
THEM what address they'll let you use. Do not just pick one yourself as
you'll add headaches for you, the other person on the address you hijacked,
and the support people that try to find out who did such a stupid thing on
their subnet (and come give you a sound LART'ing)

-Bill Kearney

"Bill Kearney" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:_8-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Having limited connection with new adapter so am giving own IP address
>> subnet etc. rather than auto configure. It worked once before on previous
>> computer.
>>
>> However I need a gateway address.
>>
>> I was given one once before that worked.
>
> You cannot just pick them randomly. You need to know how they're already
> being assinged. This is try wired or wirelessly. If you pick an address
> that's already in use you'll cause both devices to fail. If the subnet
> offers DHCP them USE IT. If they're not offering DHCP addresses then ASK
> THEM what address they'll let you use. Do not just pick one yourself as
> you'll add headaches for you, the other person on the address you
> hijacked,
> and the support people that try to find out who did such a stupid thing on
> their subnet (and come give you a sound LART'ing)
>
> -Bill Kearney

Thanks Bill

I think I am trying to be too clever anyway, rather than fix the source of
the problem, I was trying a quick fix.

In a nutshell.

I've got a successful home network, 4 machines running seamlessly and no
connection problems.

I have just installed another machine with a wireless USB adapter.

Unfortunately I only get limited connectivity (and I have no idea why) when
it automatically assigns. Incidentally the IP address given is NOT in the
series, but seems to be random.

A long time ago this happened to me and instead of using auto configuration,
I gave it an IP address (next one on list incrementally).
It then worked.

I thought I'd try it again.

What puzzles me now is this.....

I have given an IP address 192.168.2.8
Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
Gateway 192.168.2.1

(the IP address of the router is 192.168.2.1 - other machines increment up
from this).

Hey, It connects - a strong signal etc. all looking good. (at least that's
what it tells me).
Workgroup name - just fine - same as other machines.
But, will it connect to internet? Will it find router? Will it find network?
No!

Can't find firewall or anything on router (and router doesn't recognise it
as connected).

So I am now stuck.

Any thoughts??

Help really appreciated.

Nick
>

"Nottnick" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>Having limited connection with new adapter so am giving own IP address
>subnet etc. rather than auto configure. It worked once before on previous
>computer.

Your unspecified router delivers the IP address, gateway address, and
DNS server addresses, to your unspecified adapter. If you are getting
a "limited connectivity" message, your unspecified router is not
successfully delivering these IP addresses. Even if we can guess what
your gateway address should be, it will not work without the other
numbers.

>However I need a gateway address.
>I was given one once before that worked.
>Any suggestions.
>Nick

Suggestions:
1. Kindly disclose what hardware and software you have to work with.
2. Set your adapter to use DHCP and cease trying to use static IP's
on your LAN.
3. Try temporarily turning off encryption and see if it works. If
that fixes the problem, use the Hex WEP key, not the ASCII. Better
yet, use WPA-PSK which does not have a problem.

>(posted this earlier on 24hr helpdesk - no luck)

Like the newsgroup name suggests, you have to wait 24 hours for an
answer.

Incidentally, I gave up on 24hoursupport.helpdesk years ago. For
every correct answer, there were 10 wrong answers and 100 flame wars.


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"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Nottnick" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>
>>Having limited connection with new adapter so am giving own IP address
>>subnet etc. rather than auto configure. It worked once before on previous
>>computer.
>
> Your unspecified router delivers the IP address, gateway address, and
> DNS server addresses, to your unspecified adapter. If you are getting
> a "limited connectivity" message, your unspecified router is not
> successfully delivering these IP addresses. Even if we can guess what
> your gateway address should be, it will not work without the other
> numbers.
>
>>However I need a gateway address.
>>I was given one once before that worked.
>>Any suggestions.
>>Nick
>
> Suggestions:
> 1. Kindly disclose what hardware and software you have to work with.
> 2. Set your adapter to use DHCP and cease trying to use static IP's
> on your LAN.
> 3. Try temporarily turning off encryption and see if it works. If
> that fixes the problem, use the Hex WEP key, not the ASCII. Better
> yet, use WPA-PSK which does not have a problem.
>


I feel VERY stupid!!

One digit out in WEP key!!

Of course, it all works fine now.

Really grateful for this post as it made me consider the WEP (hadn't
realised you could get a connection without).

Nick

On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:00:42 +0100, "Nottnick"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I feel VERY stupid!!

Nope. It happens.

>One digit out in WEP key!!
>Of course, it all works fine now.
>Really grateful for this post as it made me consider the WEP (hadn't
>realised you could get a connection without).

Well, Microsoft considers the wireless to be "connected" when it finds
a suitable SSID. They also don't consider it necessary to supply any
connection progress messages or diagnostics. It usually says
"connected" followed by "Obtaining an IP address". The only clue you
have that the intermediate step of negotiating an encryption key has
failed is that it eventually says "Limited Connectivity...". It would
have been obvious if MS had included better status and connection
progress info. A clue that MS is clueless is that one has to type in
the encryption key twice. Entering it twice makes sense for creating
an encryption key, where a typo error will prevent furthur access, but
not for connecting to a device with an existing key.

Editorial: I don't hold much hope for this to improve. A good
example of things to come is what MS did to MS Anti-Spyware (Giant
Company Software) when beta 2 was released as "MS Defender". All the
status and fine tuning info are gone. No way to tell what it's doing.
There isn't even an icon in the system tray to tell if it's actually
running. In the tradition of Apple, MS is embraced the "you don't
need to know" paradigm. Yech.
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