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Just had a funny conversation with a rep at Gateway about what Centrino
actually is. I'm not syaing I'm an expert about this (because I'm NOT), but I don't make a living selling these products either. I connected to Gateway's live chat feature to see if they had anything similar to a Dell Latitude D505 I'm thinking about buying. During that chat we got off topic on what Centrino actually is. Read below if you understand what "Intel Centrino Mobile Technology" is and would like a chuckle...(I changed the names). 11:30 New party ('Eric') has joined the session 11:30 You have been placed in queue. An advisor will join soon to assist you. When you choose to finish your chat, please use the EXIT CHAT button on your right. 11:31 New party ('Jenny') has joined the session 11:32 Eric> Hello Jenny, I'm looking at buying a laptop from Dell, but wanted to see what you guys might have that would be similar. 11:33 Jenny> Hello Eric 11:33 Jenny> How are you today ? 11:33 Jenny> Welcome to Gateway.com! Home of America's Best Selling Plasma TV and Hot New Line of Digital Cameras! My name is Jenny your esales advisor. What would you like to chat about today? 11:34 Jenny> Great , 11:34 Eric> The Dell I'm thinking about is a Latitude D505 with the following: 11:34 Eric> Pentium M 1.5 processor 11:34 Eric> 15 inch screen 11:35 Eric> 512 MB DDR SDRAM memory 11:35 Eric> 40 GB hard drive 11:35 Eric> CD-RW/DVD drive 11:35 Eric> 64MB graphics card 11:36 Eric> 802.11b wireless card 11:36 Eric> That's about it...I want to stick with the Pentium M processor and stay away from the wide screen that normally comes with the M. 11:36 Jenny> Do you need a floppy 11:37 Eric> Not really 11:37 Eric> the price was just under $1,400 11:37 Jenny> Or windows xp pro or office 11:37 Eric> Just XP Home is okay (no MS Office) 11:38 Jenny> Does the dell have the centrno technology ? 11:38 Eric> yes, that's why I want to stick with the M processor 11:38 Jenny> Ok 11:39 Jenny> http://www.gateway.com/home/products..._catalog.shtml 11:39 Jenny> Looks like the 450 x customized it the closest i can get to those specs 11:40 Eric> sounds similar if you can customize it. What would be the price? (It's already higher than the Dell) 11:41 Jenny> Not all M , Have the cetrino that is why i asked 11:41 Jenny> Total $1,918.98 , 11:41 Eric> I know. They have to have the processor, the chipset, and the wireless card. 11:41 Jenny> Shipping and handling is free tax may apply 11:42 Jenny> Correct on that , 11:43 Eric> $1918? The Dell is $1,400? 11:44 Jenny> Im on dell's web site and i do not see the d505 11:45 Jenny> Sorry i found it , one sec 11:45 Eric> It's on there. go to http://www1.us.dell.com/content/prod...=04&l=en&s=bsd 11:46 Eric> I can send you the quote I have if it will change anything in terms of Gateway's price. 11:47 Jenny> Please do , my email address is (E-Mail Removed) 11:48 Eric> Will you be able to match the deal? 11:49 Jenny> I will do my best 11:49 Jenny> Something sounds incorrect we are not normally that far off in price 11:50 Jenny> I am on there site and can not get it to give me a quote, or customize. I think there site is not working correct right now 11:51 Eric> I just forwarded it to you. 11:51 Eric> Dell is also offering a free Palm Zire 21 PDA (retails for $99) 11:52 Eric> So the total price was $1,477 with a $100 rebate AND a free Palm Zire 21 PDA. It looks like they are offering a great deal compared to what Gateway can do. 11:54 Eric> (so $1,377 after the rebate) 11:56 Jenny> Can i give you a call after i look at this ? 11:56 Eric> I'd rather give you a call, what number? 11:56 Eric> Will you be able to compete with this offer? 11:57 Jenny> When i customize it i come up with more then 1900 11:57 Jenny> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellsto...s=bsd&kc=6W300 11:58 Eric> The quote is for the price I mentioned. I'm not sure about if you customize it on the site. 12:02 Jenny> I can not pull up your quote you sent me 12:02 Jenny> This is the page i get 12:02 Eric> did you get the email? 12:02 Jenny> http://membership.dell.com/myaccount...to/default.asp 12:03 Eric> that link won't open for me 12:03 Eric> Did you get the email I sent you? 12:04 Eric> I just sent it to you again We were disconnected at this point. I re-connected and the chat continues below: 12:11 New party ('Eric') has joined the session 12:11 You have been placed in queue. An advisor will join soon to assist you. When you choose to finish your chat, please use the EXIT CHAT button on your right. 12:13 Eric> I was just disconnected while chatting with Jenny. Can you transfer me? 12:14 New party ('BT') has joined the session 12:15 BT> yep one sec 12:15 Party ('BT') has left the session 12:16 New party ('Jenny') has joined the session 12:18 Eric> I was just talking to you about the Dell Latitude D505 12:19 Jenny> Ok and i did look at this quote 12:19 Eric> Did you get the email I sent you with the quote? 12:19 Eric> ok, 12:19 Jenny> It is not the centrno technology 12:19 Jenny> That is the difference in price 12:20 Eric> why isn't it the Centrino technology? 12:20 Jenny> It is just the Pentium 4 M, M = mobile chip 12:20 Eric> No it's not... It's the Pentium M at 1.5GHz 12:20 Jenny> It does not say it is and the 802.11 is not part of the processor itself 12:21 Jenny> Correct then the 450 is not matching = specs the 350 or 305 would be an equal system 12:21 Eric> Yes, it does say it. The very first line says "Lat D505, 1.5GHZ PEN M, 15.0XGA 12:22 Eric> 1.5GHZ PEN M stands for the Pentium M 1.5 12:23 Jenny> Can i call you ? 12:23 Jenny> It is a M technology but not the centrino 12:23 Eric> If this is what I'm saying it is...CAN YOU COMPETE with this? If so, I'll call you, if not, there's no reason to. 12:23 Jenny> http://www.gateway.com/home/products..._catalog.shtml 12:24 Jenny> I can i have a much more powerful system 12:24 Eric> Why do you keep saying it's not the Centrino? Did you see where it says the Pentium M 1.5 also the Intel pro wireless card? 12:24 Jenny> The M350S 12:25 Jenny> Yes but that is not centrino 12:25 Eric> It also has the 855 chipset which would be the third component of what makes up "Centrino" 12:25 Jenny> Centrino technology is all those but it is also all built in the processor chip itself 12:25 Eric> Yes it, is. Centrino is made up of the M processor, the 855 chipset, and the intel wireless card. If a laptop has those three components it IS "Centrino" 12:26 Eric> If you disagree with this, please go and ask someone to confirm. 12:27 Jenny> On your quote it shows it is a ' 1.5 not that it is a M 1.5 with centrino technology , when i made a quote offering this it was much more 12:27 Eric> Yes (for the second time) it DOES say it on the first line. 12:28 Eric> "LAT D505 1.5GHZ PEN M" 12:28 Jenny> The fisrt line says this : Latitude D505, 1.50GHz, Pentium M, 15.0 XGA, English 12:28 Jenny> Correct , it does not say centrino technology 12:28 Eric> CORRECT - Pentium M 1.5GHz + 855 chipset + Intel Pro/Wireless 802.11 card = Centrino technology 12:29 Jenny> Correct , so that is = to my m 305 sereise 12:30 Eric> you really need to go and ask someone what "Centrino" really is. this is just silly. 12:31 Jenny> I know what it is , Intel makes a lot of processors 12:31 Eric> Centrino is NOT a processor 12:31 Jenny> I also see dell offers this system with a centrno chip and it is much more then 1400 12:31 Jenny> Yes it is 12:32 Eric> Centrino is not a chip. 12:32 Eric> It's not anything tangible...it's a technology made up of the M processor, the 855 chipset, and the wireless card. 12:33 Jenny> The 802.11 is part of the processor chip itself 12:33 Eric> if a laptop has those three components...then (and only then) is it considered to have "Centrino Mobile Technology". 12:34 Eric> Let's get back to the point. Can you compete with this offer from Dell? 12:35 Eric> If not, we don't need to continue. 12:35 Eric> If you can, I'd be happy to see what you could offer. 12:36 Jenny> On the quote you sent me the mM350S is equal system for less 12:36 Eric> It has the Pentium 4...NOT the same processor as the Pentium M !!!!! 12:36 Jenny> No it has the : Processor: Mobile Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 2.6GHz with Hyper-Threading Technology 12:37 Jenny> This has a more powerfully processor the hyper threading 12:38 Eric> the 350S has a (normally used in a desktop) P4 w/ HT ... not the P4 mobile processor. 12:38 Jenny> Or o have the m305xl this thas the : Mobile Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 2.2GHz-M4 12:39 Jenny> These are mobile processors , not the desk top 12:40 Eric> Still, just a typical P4 processor ... not a mobile P4. This is helping you more than it is helping me. You actually could be learning a lot here if you listen and not try and correct me...lol. 12:40 Eric> Go and ask one of your techs if these units have the mobile P4 or just the typical P4's 12:40 Eric> There IS a difference 12:41 Eric> The three Intel processor you should know the difference between in these laptops are the Pentium 4, the Pentium 4-M, and the Pentium M 12:42 Jenny> I can email you some quotes to look at 12:42 Eric> the Pentium M is the one you need (along with the chipset and the wireless card) to have Centrino technology 12:42 Jenny> I hope i am not confusing you on this 12:43 Eric> if they are the same type of configuration as the one I sent you, go ahead. Don't bother with any of the ones you mentioned...they don't have the Pentium M processor. 12:43 Eric> I hope I'm not confusing YOU on this...lol !!!!!! 12:43 Jenny> Your correct on the chip set 12:44 Eric> thank you 12:44 Jenny> But the quote you sent me does not say this 12:44 Eric> say what? 12:45 Eric> Look, I can't spend anymore time on this. Send me a quote if you can come up with something that would compete with the Dell Quote I sent you (with the Pentium M). 12:46 Jenny> It just says D505, 1.50GHz, Pentium 4, 15.0 XGA, English 12:46 Eric> Yes, that's correct, what in the world would you like it to say? 12:46 Jenny> If you have any questions throughout your research, please give me a call directly or email me. My direct number is 800.846.2036 ext. XXXXX and my email is (E-Mail Removed). I work on commission and would love the opportunity to earn your business!!! 12:47 Eric> Like I said, send me a quote if you can come up with something similar to the Dell. |
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brian
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You're a real jerk. Is that the way you speak to everyone? "newtothis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:2BZMb.46310$na.37354@attbi_s04... > Just had a funny conversation with a rep at Gateway about what Centrino > actually is. > > I'm not syaing I'm an expert about this (because I'm NOT), but I don't make > a living selling these products either. > > I connected to Gateway's live chat feature to see if they had anything > similar to a Dell Latitude D505 I'm thinking about buying. During that chat > we got off topic on what Centrino actually is. Read below if you understand > what "Intel Centrino Mobile Technology" is and would like a chuckle...(I > changed the names). > > > > 11:30 New party ('Eric') has joined the session > 11:30 You have been placed in queue. An advisor will join soon to assist > you. When you choose to finish your chat, please use the EXIT CHAT button on > your right. > 11:31 New party ('Jenny') has joined the session > 11:32 Eric> Hello Jenny, I'm looking at buying a laptop from Dell, but > wanted to see what you guys might have that would be similar. > 11:33 Jenny> Hello Eric > 11:33 Jenny> How are you today ? > 11:33 Jenny> Welcome to Gateway.com! Home of America's Best Selling Plasma > TV and Hot New Line of Digital Cameras! My name is Jenny your esales > advisor. What would you like to chat about today? > 11:34 Jenny> Great , > 11:34 Eric> The Dell I'm thinking about is a Latitude D505 with the > following: > 11:34 Eric> Pentium M 1.5 processor > 11:34 Eric> 15 inch screen > 11:35 Eric> 512 MB DDR SDRAM memory > 11:35 Eric> 40 GB hard drive > 11:35 Eric> CD-RW/DVD drive > 11:35 Eric> 64MB graphics card > 11:36 Eric> 802.11b wireless card > 11:36 Eric> That's about it...I want to stick with the Pentium M processor > and stay away from the wide screen that normally comes with the M. > 11:36 Jenny> Do you need a floppy > 11:37 Eric> Not really > 11:37 Eric> the price was just under $1,400 > 11:37 Jenny> Or windows xp pro or office > 11:37 Eric> Just XP Home is okay (no MS Office) > 11:38 Jenny> Does the dell have the centrno technology ? > 11:38 Eric> yes, that's why I want to stick with the M processor > 11:38 Jenny> Ok > 11:39 Jenny> http://www.gateway.com/home/products..._catalog.shtml > 11:39 Jenny> Looks like the 450 x customized it the closest i can get to > those specs > 11:40 Eric> sounds similar if you can customize it. What would be the price? > (It's already higher than the Dell) > 11:41 Jenny> Not all M , Have the cetrino that is why i asked > 11:41 Jenny> Total $1,918.98 , > 11:41 Eric> I know. They have to have the processor, the chipset, and the > wireless card. > 11:41 Jenny> Shipping and handling is free tax may apply > 11:42 Jenny> Correct on that , > 11:43 Eric> $1918? The Dell is $1,400? > 11:44 Jenny> Im on dell's web site and i do not see the d505 > 11:45 Jenny> Sorry i found it , one sec > 11:45 Eric> It's on there. go to > http://www1.us.dell.com/content/prod...=04&l=en&s=bsd > 11:46 Eric> I can send you the quote I have if it will change anything in > terms of Gateway's price. > 11:47 Jenny> Please do , my email address is (E-Mail Removed) > 11:48 Eric> Will you be able to match the deal? > 11:49 Jenny> I will do my best > 11:49 Jenny> Something sounds incorrect we are not normally that far off in > price > 11:50 Jenny> I am on there site and can not get it to give me a quote, or > customize. I think there site is not working correct right now > 11:51 Eric> I just forwarded it to you. > 11:51 Eric> Dell is also offering a free Palm Zire 21 PDA (retails for $99) > 11:52 Eric> So the total price was $1,477 with a $100 rebate AND a free Palm > Zire 21 PDA. It looks like they are offering a great deal compared to what > Gateway can do. > 11:54 Eric> (so $1,377 after the rebate) > 11:56 Jenny> Can i give you a call after i look at this ? > 11:56 Eric> I'd rather give you a call, what number? > 11:56 Eric> Will you be able to compete with this offer? > 11:57 Jenny> When i customize it i come up with more then 1900 > 11:57 Jenny> > http://configure.us.dell.com/dellsto...s=bsd&kc=6W300 > 11:58 Eric> The quote is for the price I mentioned. I'm not sure about if > you customize it on the site. > 12:02 Jenny> I can not pull up your quote you sent me > 12:02 Jenny> This is the page i get > 12:02 Eric> did you get the email? > 12:02 Jenny> > http://membership.dell.com/myaccount...to/default.asp > 12:03 Eric> that link won't open for me > 12:03 Eric> Did you get the email I sent you? > 12:04 Eric> I just sent it to you again > > > > > > We were disconnected at this point. I re-connected and the chat continues > below: > > > > > > 12:11 New party ('Eric') has joined the session > 12:11 You have been placed in queue. An advisor will join soon to assist > you. When you choose to finish your chat, please use the EXIT CHAT button on > your right. > 12:13 Eric> I was just disconnected while chatting with Jenny. Can you > transfer me? > 12:14 New party ('BT') has joined the session > 12:15 BT> yep one sec > 12:15 Party ('BT') has left the session > 12:16 New party ('Jenny') has joined the session > 12:18 Eric> I was just talking to you about the Dell Latitude D505 > 12:19 Jenny> Ok and i did look at this quote > 12:19 Eric> Did you get the email I sent you with the quote? > 12:19 Eric> ok, > 12:19 Jenny> It is not the centrno technology > 12:19 Jenny> That is the difference in price > 12:20 Eric> why isn't it the Centrino technology? > 12:20 Jenny> It is just the Pentium 4 M, M = mobile chip > 12:20 Eric> No it's not... It's the Pentium M at 1.5GHz > 12:20 Jenny> It does not say it is and the 802.11 is not part of the > processor itself > 12:21 Jenny> Correct then the 450 is not matching = specs the 350 or 305 > would be an equal system > 12:21 Eric> Yes, it does say it. The very first line says "Lat D505, 1.5GHZ > PEN M, 15.0XGA > 12:22 Eric> 1.5GHZ PEN M stands for the Pentium M 1.5 > 12:23 Jenny> Can i call you ? > 12:23 Jenny> It is a M technology but not the centrino > 12:23 Eric> If this is what I'm saying it is...CAN YOU COMPETE with this? If > so, I'll call you, if not, there's no reason to. > 12:23 Jenny> http://www.gateway.com/home/products..._catalog.shtml > 12:24 Jenny> I can i have a much more powerful system > 12:24 Eric> Why do you keep saying it's not the Centrino? Did you see where > it says the Pentium M 1.5 also the Intel pro wireless card? > 12:24 Jenny> The M350S > 12:25 Jenny> Yes but that is not centrino > 12:25 Eric> It also has the 855 chipset which would be the third component > of what makes up "Centrino" > 12:25 Jenny> Centrino technology is all those but it is also all built in > the processor chip itself > 12:25 Eric> Yes it, is. Centrino is made up of the M processor, the 855 > chipset, and the intel wireless card. If a laptop has those three components > it IS "Centrino" > 12:26 Eric> If you disagree with this, please go and ask someone to confirm. > 12:27 Jenny> On your quote it shows it is a ' 1.5 not that it is a M 1.5 > with centrino technology , when i made a quote offering this it was much > more > 12:27 Eric> Yes (for the second time) it DOES say it on the first line. > 12:28 Eric> "LAT D505 1.5GHZ PEN M" > 12:28 Jenny> The fisrt line says this : Latitude D505, 1.50GHz, Pentium M, > 15.0 XGA, English > 12:28 Jenny> Correct , it does not say centrino technology > 12:28 Eric> CORRECT - Pentium M 1.5GHz + 855 chipset + Intel Pro/Wireless > 802.11 card = Centrino technology > 12:29 Jenny> Correct , so that is = to my m 305 sereise > 12:30 Eric> you really need to go and ask someone what "Centrino" really is. > this is just silly. > 12:31 Jenny> I know what it is , Intel makes a lot of processors > 12:31 Eric> Centrino is NOT a processor > 12:31 Jenny> I also see dell offers this system with a centrno chip and it > is much more then 1400 > 12:31 Jenny> Yes it is > 12:32 Eric> Centrino is not a chip. > 12:32 Eric> It's not anything tangible...it's a technology made up of the M > processor, the 855 chipset, and the wireless card. > 12:33 Jenny> The 802.11 is part of the processor chip itself > 12:33 Eric> if a laptop has those three components...then (and only then) is > it considered to have "Centrino Mobile Technology". > 12:34 Eric> Let's get back to the point. Can you compete with this offer > from Dell? > 12:35 Eric> If not, we don't need to continue. > 12:35 Eric> If you can, I'd be happy to see what you could offer. > 12:36 Jenny> On the quote you sent me the mM350S is equal system for less > 12:36 Eric> It has the Pentium 4...NOT the same processor as the Pentium M > !!!!! > 12:36 Jenny> No it has the : Processor: Mobile Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor > 2.6GHz with Hyper-Threading Technology > 12:37 Jenny> This has a more powerfully processor the hyper threading > 12:38 Eric> the 350S has a (normally used in a desktop) P4 w/ HT ... not the > P4 mobile processor. > 12:38 Jenny> Or o have the m305xl this thas the : Mobile Intel® Pentium® 4 > Processor 2.2GHz-M4 > 12:39 Jenny> These are mobile processors , not the desk top > 12:40 Eric> Still, just a typical P4 processor ... not a mobile P4. This is > helping you more than it is helping me. You actually could be learning a lot > here if you listen and not try and correct me...lol. > 12:40 Eric> Go and ask one of your techs if these units have the mobile P4 > or just the typical P4's > 12:40 Eric> There IS a difference > 12:41 Eric> The three Intel processor you should know the difference between > in these laptops are the Pentium 4, the Pentium 4-M, and the Pentium M > 12:42 Jenny> I can email you some quotes to look at > 12:42 Eric> the Pentium M is the one you need (along with the chipset and > the wireless card) to have Centrino technology > 12:42 Jenny> I hope i am not confusing you on this > 12:43 Eric> if they are the same type of configuration as the one I sent > you, go ahead. Don't bother with any of the ones you mentioned...they don't > have the Pentium M processor. > 12:43 Eric> I hope I'm not confusing YOU on this...lol !!!!!! > 12:43 Jenny> Your correct on the chip set > 12:44 Eric> thank you > 12:44 Jenny> But the quote you sent me does not say this > 12:44 Eric> say what? > 12:45 Eric> Look, I can't spend anymore time on this. Send me a quote if you > can come up with something that would compete with the Dell Quote I sent you > (with the Pentium M). > 12:46 Jenny> It just says D505, 1.50GHz, Pentium 4, 15.0 XGA, English > 12:46 Eric> Yes, that's correct, what in the world would you like it to say? > 12:46 Jenny> If you have any questions throughout your research, please give > me a call directly or email me. My direct number is 800.846.2036 ext. XXXXX > and my email is (E-Mail Removed). I work on commission and would love the > opportunity to earn your business!!! > 12:47 Eric> Like I said, send me a quote if you can come up with something > similar to the Dell. > > > > |
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brian wrote:
> You're a real jerk. Is that the way you speak to everyone? Uh ? You mean you don't expect sales staff to know something about what they're selling ? |
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Hmmm...I'm not sure how to answer this one, but I do expect a Gateway
salesperson to know about the Gateway product they are trying to sell. I don't feel I was out of line or rude. I started by letting the person know what the Centrino technology is (to my understanding) and that there is no such thing as a Centrino processor. If you think I was rude...okay, but I doubt very many others would feel the same way after reading the "chat". To each there own, so have a wonderful day. "brian" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:Kh0Nb.14028$%(E-Mail Removed) le.rogers.com... > > You're a real jerk. Is that the way you speak to everyone? > > "newtothis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news:2BZMb.46310$na.37354@attbi_s04... > > Just had a funny conversation with a rep at Gateway about what Centrino > > actually is. > > > > I'm not syaing I'm an expert about this (because I'm NOT), but I don't > make > > a living selling these products either. > > > > I connected to Gateway's live chat feature to see if they had anything > > similar to a Dell Latitude D505 I'm thinking about buying. During that > chat > > we got off topic on what Centrino actually is. Read below if you > understand > > what "Intel Centrino Mobile Technology" is and would like a chuckle...(I > > changed the names). > > > > > > > > 11:30 New party ('Eric') has joined the session > > 11:30 You have been placed in queue. An advisor will join soon to assist > > you. When you choose to finish your chat, please use the EXIT CHAT button > on > > your right. > > 11:31 New party ('Jenny') has joined the session > > 11:32 Eric> Hello Jenny, I'm looking at buying a laptop from Dell, but > > wanted to see what you guys might have that would be similar. > > 11:33 Jenny> Hello Eric > > 11:33 Jenny> How are you today ? > > 11:33 Jenny> Welcome to Gateway.com! Home of America's Best Selling Plasma > > TV and Hot New Line of Digital Cameras! My name is Jenny your esales > > advisor. What would you like to chat about today? > > 11:34 Jenny> Great , > > 11:34 Eric> The Dell I'm thinking about is a Latitude D505 with the > > following: > > 11:34 Eric> Pentium M 1.5 processor > > 11:34 Eric> 15 inch screen > > 11:35 Eric> 512 MB DDR SDRAM memory > > 11:35 Eric> 40 GB hard drive > > 11:35 Eric> CD-RW/DVD drive > > 11:35 Eric> 64MB graphics card > > 11:36 Eric> 802.11b wireless card > > 11:36 Eric> That's about it...I want to stick with the Pentium M processor > > and stay away from the wide screen that normally comes with the M. > > 11:36 Jenny> Do you need a floppy > > 11:37 Eric> Not really > > 11:37 Eric> the price was just under $1,400 > > 11:37 Jenny> Or windows xp pro or office > > 11:37 Eric> Just XP Home is okay (no MS Office) > > 11:38 Jenny> Does the dell have the centrno technology ? > > 11:38 Eric> yes, that's why I want to stick with the M processor > > 11:38 Jenny> Ok > > 11:39 Jenny> http://www.gateway.com/home/products..._catalog.shtml > > 11:39 Jenny> Looks like the 450 x customized it the closest i can get to > > those specs > > 11:40 Eric> sounds similar if you can customize it. What would be the > price? > > (It's already higher than the Dell) > > 11:41 Jenny> Not all M , Have the cetrino that is why i asked > > 11:41 Jenny> Total $1,918.98 , > > 11:41 Eric> I know. They have to have the processor, the chipset, and the > > wireless card. > > 11:41 Jenny> Shipping and handling is free tax may apply > > 11:42 Jenny> Correct on that , > > 11:43 Eric> $1918? The Dell is $1,400? > > 11:44 Jenny> Im on dell's web site and i do not see the d505 > > 11:45 Jenny> Sorry i found it , one sec > > 11:45 Eric> It's on there. go to > > > http://www1.us.dell.com/content/prod...=04&l=en&s=bsd > > 11:46 Eric> I can send you the quote I have if it will change anything in > > terms of Gateway's price. > > 11:47 Jenny> Please do , my email address is (E-Mail Removed) > > 11:48 Eric> Will you be able to match the deal? > > 11:49 Jenny> I will do my best > > 11:49 Jenny> Something sounds incorrect we are not normally that far off > in > > price > > 11:50 Jenny> I am on there site and can not get it to give me a quote, or > > customize. I think there site is not working correct right now > > 11:51 Eric> I just forwarded it to you. > > 11:51 Eric> Dell is also offering a free Palm Zire 21 PDA (retails for > $99) > > 11:52 Eric> So the total price was $1,477 with a $100 rebate AND a free > Palm > > Zire 21 PDA. It looks like they are offering a great deal compared to what > > Gateway can do. > > 11:54 Eric> (so $1,377 after the rebate) > > 11:56 Jenny> Can i give you a call after i look at this ? > > 11:56 Eric> I'd rather give you a call, what number? > > 11:56 Eric> Will you be able to compete with this offer? > > 11:57 Jenny> When i customize it i come up with more then 1900 > > 11:57 Jenny> > > > http://configure.us.dell.com/dellsto...s=bsd&kc=6W300 > > 11:58 Eric> The quote is for the price I mentioned. I'm not sure about if > > you customize it on the site. > > 12:02 Jenny> I can not pull up your quote you sent me > > 12:02 Jenny> This is the page i get > > 12:02 Eric> did you get the email? > > 12:02 Jenny> > > > http://membership.dell.com/myaccount...to/default.asp > > 12:03 Eric> that link won't open for me > > 12:03 Eric> Did you get the email I sent you? > > 12:04 Eric> I just sent it to you again > > > > > > > > > > > > We were disconnected at this point. I re-connected and the chat continues > > below: > > > > > > > > > > > > 12:11 New party ('Eric') has joined the session > > 12:11 You have been placed in queue. An advisor will join soon to assist > > you. When you choose to finish your chat, please use the EXIT CHAT button > on > > your right. > > 12:13 Eric> I was just disconnected while chatting with Jenny. Can you > > transfer me? > > 12:14 New party ('BT') has joined the session > > 12:15 BT> yep one sec > > 12:15 Party ('BT') has left the session > > 12:16 New party ('Jenny') has joined the session > > 12:18 Eric> I was just talking to you about the Dell Latitude D505 > > 12:19 Jenny> Ok and i did look at this quote > > 12:19 Eric> Did you get the email I sent you with the quote? > > 12:19 Eric> ok, > > 12:19 Jenny> It is not the centrno technology > > 12:19 Jenny> That is the difference in price > > 12:20 Eric> why isn't it the Centrino technology? > > 12:20 Jenny> It is just the Pentium 4 M, M = mobile chip > > 12:20 Eric> No it's not... It's the Pentium M at 1.5GHz > > 12:20 Jenny> It does not say it is and the 802.11 is not part of the > > processor itself > > 12:21 Jenny> Correct then the 450 is not matching = specs the 350 or 305 > > would be an equal system > > 12:21 Eric> Yes, it does say it. The very first line says "Lat D505, > 1.5GHZ > > PEN M, 15.0XGA > > 12:22 Eric> 1.5GHZ PEN M stands for the Pentium M 1.5 > > 12:23 Jenny> Can i call you ? > > 12:23 Jenny> It is a M technology but not the centrino > > 12:23 Eric> If this is what I'm saying it is...CAN YOU COMPETE with this? > If > > so, I'll call you, if not, there's no reason to. > > 12:23 Jenny> http://www.gateway.com/home/products..._catalog.shtml > > 12:24 Jenny> I can i have a much more powerful system > > 12:24 Eric> Why do you keep saying it's not the Centrino? Did you see > where > > it says the Pentium M 1.5 also the Intel pro wireless card? > > 12:24 Jenny> The M350S > > 12:25 Jenny> Yes but that is not centrino > > 12:25 Eric> It also has the 855 chipset which would be the third component > > of what makes up "Centrino" > > 12:25 Jenny> Centrino technology is all those but it is also all built in > > the processor chip itself > > 12:25 Eric> Yes it, is. Centrino is made up of the M processor, the 855 > > chipset, and the intel wireless card. If a laptop has those three > components > > it IS "Centrino" > > 12:26 Eric> If you disagree with this, please go and ask someone to > confirm. > > 12:27 Jenny> On your quote it shows it is a ' 1.5 not that it is a M 1.5 > > with centrino technology , when i made a quote offering this it was much > > more > > 12:27 Eric> Yes (for the second time) it DOES say it on the first line. > > 12:28 Eric> "LAT D505 1.5GHZ PEN M" > > 12:28 Jenny> The fisrt line says this : Latitude D505, 1.50GHz, Pentium M, > > 15.0 XGA, English > > 12:28 Jenny> Correct , it does not say centrino technology > > 12:28 Eric> CORRECT - Pentium M 1.5GHz + 855 chipset + Intel Pro/Wireless > > 802.11 card = Centrino technology > > 12:29 Jenny> Correct , so that is = to my m 305 sereise > > 12:30 Eric> you really need to go and ask someone what "Centrino" really > is. > > this is just silly. > > 12:31 Jenny> I know what it is , Intel makes a lot of processors > > 12:31 Eric> Centrino is NOT a processor > > 12:31 Jenny> I also see dell offers this system with a centrno chip and it > > is much more then 1400 > > 12:31 Jenny> Yes it is > > 12:32 Eric> Centrino is not a chip. > > 12:32 Eric> It's not anything tangible...it's a technology made up of the > M > > processor, the 855 chipset, and the wireless card. > > 12:33 Jenny> The 802.11 is part of the processor chip itself > > 12:33 Eric> if a laptop has those three components...then (and only then) > is > > it considered to have "Centrino Mobile Technology". > > 12:34 Eric> Let's get back to the point. Can you compete with this offer > > from Dell? > > 12:35 Eric> If not, we don't need to continue. > > 12:35 Eric> If you can, I'd be happy to see what you could offer. > > 12:36 Jenny> On the quote you sent me the mM350S is equal system for less > > 12:36 Eric> It has the Pentium 4...NOT the same processor as the Pentium M > > !!!!! > > 12:36 Jenny> No it has the : Processor: Mobile Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor > > 2.6GHz with Hyper-Threading Technology > > 12:37 Jenny> This has a more powerfully processor the hyper threading > > 12:38 Eric> the 350S has a (normally used in a desktop) P4 w/ HT ... not > the > > P4 mobile processor. > > 12:38 Jenny> Or o have the m305xl this thas the : Mobile Intel® Pentium® 4 > > Processor 2.2GHz-M4 > > 12:39 Jenny> These are mobile processors , not the desk top > > 12:40 Eric> Still, just a typical P4 processor ... not a mobile P4. This > is > > helping you more than it is helping me. You actually could be learning a > lot > > here if you listen and not try and correct me...lol. > > 12:40 Eric> Go and ask one of your techs if these units have the mobile P4 > > or just the typical P4's > > 12:40 Eric> There IS a difference > > 12:41 Eric> The three Intel processor you should know the difference > between > > in these laptops are the Pentium 4, the Pentium 4-M, and the Pentium M > > 12:42 Jenny> I can email you some quotes to look at > > 12:42 Eric> the Pentium M is the one you need (along with the chipset and > > the wireless card) to have Centrino technology > > 12:42 Jenny> I hope i am not confusing you on this > > 12:43 Eric> if they are the same type of configuration as the one I sent > > you, go ahead. Don't bother with any of the ones you mentioned...they > don't > > have the Pentium M processor. > > 12:43 Eric> I hope I'm not confusing YOU on this...lol !!!!!! > > 12:43 Jenny> Your correct on the chip set > > 12:44 Eric> thank you > > 12:44 Jenny> But the quote you sent me does not say this > > 12:44 Eric> say what? > > 12:45 Eric> Look, I can't spend anymore time on this. Send me a quote if > you > > can come up with something that would compete with the Dell Quote I sent > you > > (with the Pentium M). > > 12:46 Jenny> It just says D505, 1.50GHz, Pentium 4, 15.0 XGA, English > > 12:46 Eric> Yes, that's correct, what in the world would you like it to > say? > > 12:46 Jenny> If you have any questions throughout your research, please > give > > me a call directly or email me. My direct number is 800.846.2036 ext. > XXXXX > > and my email is (E-Mail Removed). I work on commission and would love the > > opportunity to earn your business!!! > > 12:47 Eric> Like I said, send me a quote if you can come up with something > > similar to the Dell. > > > > > > > > > > |
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"newtothis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news 62Nb.51250$I06.291158@attbi_s01...> Hmmm...I'm not sure how to answer this one, but I do expect a Gateway > salesperson to know about the Gateway product they are trying to sell. I > don't feel I was out of line or rude. I started by letting the person know > what the Centrino technology is (to my understanding) and that there is no > such thing as a Centrino processor. > > If you think I was rude...okay, but I doubt very many others would feel the > same way after reading the "chat". > > To each there own, so have a wonderful day. Not rude at all. The salesperson was rude to simply ignore what you were trying to say. The dialog almost reads as if the salesperson was some typical artificial intelligence program (like Eliza the virtual therapist...). |
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Now that you mention it, she might have been some type of AI program...lol.
"Slashed Zero" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:xh2Nb.11096$(E-Mail Removed)... > "newtothis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news 62Nb.51250$I06.291158@attbi_s01...> > Hmmm...I'm not sure how to answer this one, but I do expect a Gateway > > salesperson to know about the Gateway product they are trying to sell. I > > don't feel I was out of line or rude. I started by letting the person know > > what the Centrino technology is (to my understanding) and that there is no > > such thing as a Centrino processor. > > > > If you think I was rude...okay, but I doubt very many others would feel > the > > same way after reading the "chat". > > > > To each there own, so have a wonderful day. > > Not rude at all. The salesperson was rude to simply ignore what you were > trying to say. The dialog almost reads as if the salesperson was some > typical artificial intelligence program (like Eliza the virtual > therapist...). > > |
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I don't think so... an AI program would, at least, have used a
spell-checker. -- Rocket "newtothis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:Qg3Nb.45818$sv6.123851@attbi_s52... > Now that you mention it, she might have been some type of AI program...lol. > > > "Slashed Zero" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news:xh2Nb.11096$(E-Mail Removed)... > > "newtothis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > > news 62Nb.51250$I06.291158@attbi_s01...> > > Hmmm...I'm not sure how to answer this one, but I do expect a Gateway > > > salesperson to know about the Gateway product they are trying to sell. I > > > don't feel I was out of line or rude. I started by letting the person > know > > > what the Centrino technology is (to my understanding) and that there is > no > > > such thing as a Centrino processor. > > > > > > If you think I was rude...okay, but I doubt very many others would feel > > the > > > same way after reading the "chat". > > > > > > To each there own, so have a wonderful day. > > > > Not rude at all. The salesperson was rude to simply ignore what you were > > trying to say. The dialog almost reads as if the salesperson was some > > typical artificial intelligence program (like Eliza the virtual > > therapist...). > > > > > > |
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sounds like you were talking to a BOT not a person!
"newtothis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:2BZMb.46310$na.37354@attbi_s04... > Just had a funny conversation with a rep at Gateway about what Centrino > actually is. > > I'm not syaing I'm an expert about this (because I'm NOT), but I don't make > a living selling these products either. > > I connected to Gateway's live chat feature to see if they had anything > similar to a Dell Latitude D505 I'm thinking about buying. During that chat > we got off topic on what Centrino actually is. Read below if you understand > what "Intel Centrino Mobile Technology" is and would like a chuckle...(I > changed the names). > > > > 11:30 New party ('Eric') has joined the session > 11:30 You have been placed in queue. An advisor will join soon to assist > you. When you choose to finish your chat, please use the EXIT CHAT button on > your right. > 11:31 New party ('Jenny') has joined the session > 11:32 Eric> Hello Jenny, I'm looking at buying a laptop from Dell, but > wanted to see what you guys might have that would be similar. > 11:33 Jenny> Hello Eric > 11:33 Jenny> How are you today ? > 11:33 Jenny> Welcome to Gateway.com! Home of America's Best Selling Plasma > TV and Hot New Line of Digital Cameras! My name is Jenny your esales > advisor. What would you like to chat about today? > 11:34 Jenny> Great , > 11:34 Eric> The Dell I'm thinking about is a Latitude D505 with the > following: > 11:34 Eric> Pentium M 1.5 processor > 11:34 Eric> 15 inch screen > 11:35 Eric> 512 MB DDR SDRAM memory > 11:35 Eric> 40 GB hard drive > 11:35 Eric> CD-RW/DVD drive > 11:35 Eric> 64MB graphics card > 11:36 Eric> 802.11b wireless card > 11:36 Eric> That's about it...I want to stick with the Pentium M processor > and stay away from the wide screen that normally comes with the M. > 11:36 Jenny> Do you need a floppy > 11:37 Eric> Not really > 11:37 Eric> the price was just under $1,400 > 11:37 Jenny> Or windows xp pro or office > 11:37 Eric> Just XP Home is okay (no MS Office) > 11:38 Jenny> Does the dell have the centrno technology ? > 11:38 Eric> yes, that's why I want to stick with the M processor > 11:38 Jenny> Ok > 11:39 Jenny> http://www.gateway.com/home/products..._catalog.shtml > 11:39 Jenny> Looks like the 450 x customized it the closest i can get to > those specs > 11:40 Eric> sounds similar if you can customize it. What would be the price? > (It's already higher than the Dell) > 11:41 Jenny> Not all M , Have the cetrino that is why i asked > 11:41 Jenny> Total $1,918.98 , > 11:41 Eric> I know. They have to have the processor, the chipset, and the > wireless card. > 11:41 Jenny> Shipping and handling is free tax may apply > 11:42 Jenny> Correct on that , > 11:43 Eric> $1918? The Dell is $1,400? > 11:44 Jenny> Im on dell's web site and i do not see the d505 > 11:45 Jenny> Sorry i found it , one sec > 11:45 Eric> It's on there. go to > http://www1.us.dell.com/content/prod...us&cs=04&l=en& s=bsd > 11:46 Eric> I can send you the quote I have if it will change anything in > terms of Gateway's price. > 11:47 Jenny> Please do , my email address is (E-Mail Removed) > 11:48 Eric> Will you be able to match the deal? > 11:49 Jenny> I will do my best > 11:49 Jenny> Something sounds incorrect we are not normally that far off in > price > 11:50 Jenny> I am on there site and can not get it to give me a quote, or > customize. I think there site is not working correct right now > 11:51 Eric> I just forwarded it to you. > 11:51 Eric> Dell is also offering a free Palm Zire 21 PDA (retails for $99) > 11:52 Eric> So the total price was $1,477 with a $100 rebate AND a free Palm > Zire 21 PDA. It looks like they are offering a great deal compared to what > Gateway can do. > 11:54 Eric> (so $1,377 after the rebate) > 11:56 Jenny> Can i give you a call after i look at this ? > 11:56 Eric> I'd rather give you a call, what number? > 11:56 Eric> Will you be able to compete with this offer? > 11:57 Jenny> When i customize it i come up with more then 1900 > 11:57 Jenny> > http://configure.us.dell.com/dellsto...05sb&m_11=XPHS P1N&m_22=BASAD&m_1=D5P15X&m_19=TM1400&c=us&l=en&s= bsd&kc=6W300 > 11:58 Eric> The quote is for the price I mentioned. I'm not sure about if > you customize it on the site. > 12:02 Jenny> I can not pull up your quote you sent me > 12:02 Jenny> This is the page i get > 12:02 Eric> did you get the email? > 12:02 Jenny> > http://membership.dell.com/myaccount...SD&app=QTO&url =http://qto.us.dell.com/qto/default.asp > 12:03 Eric> that link won't open for me > 12:03 Eric> Did you get the email I sent you? > 12:04 Eric> I just sent it to you again > > > > > > We were disconnected at this point. I re-connected and the chat continues > below: > > > > > > 12:11 New party ('Eric') has joined the session > 12:11 You have been placed in queue. An advisor will join soon to assist > you. When you choose to finish your chat, please use the EXIT CHAT button on > your right. > 12:13 Eric> I was just disconnected while chatting with Jenny. Can you > transfer me? > 12:14 New party ('BT') has joined the session > 12:15 BT> yep one sec > 12:15 Party ('BT') has left the session > 12:16 New party ('Jenny') has joined the session > 12:18 Eric> I was just talking to you about the Dell Latitude D505 > 12:19 Jenny> Ok and i did look at this quote > 12:19 Eric> Did you get the email I sent you with the quote? > 12:19 Eric> ok, > 12:19 Jenny> It is not the centrno technology > 12:19 Jenny> That is the difference in price > 12:20 Eric> why isn't it the Centrino technology? > 12:20 Jenny> It is just the Pentium 4 M, M = mobile chip > 12:20 Eric> No it's not... It's the Pentium M at 1.5GHz > 12:20 Jenny> It does not say it is and the 802.11 is not part of the > processor itself > 12:21 Jenny> Correct then the 450 is not matching = specs the 350 or 305 > would be an equal system > 12:21 Eric> Yes, it does say it. The very first line says "Lat D505, 1.5GHZ > PEN M, 15.0XGA > 12:22 Eric> 1.5GHZ PEN M stands for the Pentium M 1.5 > 12:23 Jenny> Can i call you ? > 12:23 Jenny> It is a M technology but not the centrino > 12:23 Eric> If this is what I'm saying it is...CAN YOU COMPETE with this? If > so, I'll call you, if not, there's no reason to. > 12:23 Jenny> http://www.gateway.com/home/products..._catalog.shtml > 12:24 Jenny> I can i have a much more powerful system > 12:24 Eric> Why do you keep saying it's not the Centrino? Did you see where > it says the Pentium M 1.5 also the Intel pro wireless card? > 12:24 Jenny> The M350S > 12:25 Jenny> Yes but that is not centrino > 12:25 Eric> It also has the 855 chipset which would be the third component > of what makes up "Centrino" > 12:25 Jenny> Centrino technology is all those but it is also all built in > the processor chip itself > 12:25 Eric> Yes it, is. Centrino is made up of the M processor, the 855 > chipset, and the intel wireless card. If a laptop has those three components > it IS "Centrino" > 12:26 Eric> If you disagree with this, please go and ask someone to confirm. > 12:27 Jenny> On your quote it shows it is a ' 1.5 not that it is a M 1.5 > with centrino technology , when i made a quote offering this it was much > more > 12:27 Eric> Yes (for the second time) it DOES say it on the first line. > 12:28 Eric> "LAT D505 1.5GHZ PEN M" > 12:28 Jenny> The fisrt line says this : Latitude D505, 1.50GHz, Pentium M, > 15.0 XGA, English > 12:28 Jenny> Correct , it does not say centrino technology > 12:28 Eric> CORRECT - Pentium M 1.5GHz + 855 chipset + Intel Pro/Wireless > 802.11 card = Centrino technology > 12:29 Jenny> Correct , so that is = to my m 305 sereise > 12:30 Eric> you really need to go and ask someone what "Centrino" really is. > this is just silly. > 12:31 Jenny> I know what it is , Intel makes a lot of processors > 12:31 Eric> Centrino is NOT a processor > 12:31 Jenny> I also see dell offers this system with a centrno chip and it > is much more then 1400 > 12:31 Jenny> Yes it is > 12:32 Eric> Centrino is not a chip. > 12:32 Eric> It's not anything tangible...it's a technology made up of the M > processor, the 855 chipset, and the wireless card. > 12:33 Jenny> The 802.11 is part of the processor chip itself > 12:33 Eric> if a laptop has those three components...then (and only then) is > it considered to have "Centrino Mobile Technology". > 12:34 Eric> Let's get back to the point. Can you compete with this offer > from Dell? > 12:35 Eric> If not, we don't need to continue. > 12:35 Eric> If you can, I'd be happy to see what you could offer. > 12:36 Jenny> On the quote you sent me the mM350S is equal system for less > 12:36 Eric> It has the Pentium 4...NOT the same processor as the Pentium M > !!!!! > 12:36 Jenny> No it has the : Processor: Mobile Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor > 2.6GHz with Hyper-Threading Technology > 12:37 Jenny> This has a more powerfully processor the hyper threading > 12:38 Eric> the 350S has a (normally used in a desktop) P4 w/ HT ... not the > P4 mobile processor. > 12:38 Jenny> Or o have the m305xl this thas the : Mobile Intel® Pentium® 4 > Processor 2.2GHz-M4 > 12:39 Jenny> These are mobile processors , not the desk top > 12:40 Eric> Still, just a typical P4 processor ... not a mobile P4. This is > helping you more than it is helping me. You actually could be learning a lot > here if you listen and not try and correct me...lol. > 12:40 Eric> Go and ask one of your techs if these units have the mobile P4 > or just the typical P4's > 12:40 Eric> There IS a difference > 12:41 Eric> The three Intel processor you should know the difference between > in these laptops are the Pentium 4, the Pentium 4-M, and the Pentium M > 12:42 Jenny> I can email you some quotes to look at > 12:42 Eric> the Pentium M is the one you need (along with the chipset and > the wireless card) to have Centrino technology > 12:42 Jenny> I hope i am not confusing you on this > 12:43 Eric> if they are the same type of configuration as the one I sent > you, go ahead. Don't bother with any of the ones you mentioned...they don't > have the Pentium M processor. > 12:43 Eric> I hope I'm not confusing YOU on this...lol !!!!!! > 12:43 Jenny> Your correct on the chip set > 12:44 Eric> thank you > 12:44 Jenny> But the quote you sent me does not say this > 12:44 Eric> say what? > 12:45 Eric> Look, I can't spend anymore time on this. Send me a quote if you > can come up with something that would compete with the Dell Quote I sent you > (with the Pentium M). > 12:46 Jenny> It just says D505, 1.50GHz, Pentium 4, 15.0 XGA, English > 12:46 Eric> Yes, that's correct, what in the world would you like it to say? > 12:46 Jenny> If you have any questions throughout your research, please give > me a call directly or email me. My direct number is 800.846.2036 ext. XXXXX > and my email is (E-Mail Removed). I work on commission and would love the > opportunity to earn your business!!! > 12:47 Eric> Like I said, send me a quote if you can come up with something > similar to the Dell. > > > > |
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