Full daily backup with MS backup on W2k3

Hello everybody,

For our W2k3 rollout I have to choose between two backup software
applications. One of them is Brightstor Arcserve 11 and the other is MS
Backup wich is buildin the W2k3 OS.

Arcserve is pretty neat and does what it's supposed to do! The minor issue
is that the package is very fancy and has a lot of functions we even not
look at! But the backup procedure en capabilities are very good. We use
Arcserve for years now on our Novell Platforms. No complains there!

Now to the Microsoft Backup software. Actually this is exact what we need. A
piece of software that is simple and works right like it should be.
Specially the ASR function is very neat! Now to the minor I have
encountered!

I created a scheduled backup from monday to friday! With Arcserve I can tell
the job to format the tape each time before starting the full backup! So
regardless of wich tape is insert, Arcserve will start a full backup! Why
can't I do this with MS Backup? If I can solve this issue, we most porbably
will choose the MS backup software. Otherwise I have to study a few more
weeks on Arcserve (restoring ;-).

Many thanks in advance,
Herman Franssen

Maybe this can help you:
http://www.jsiinc.com/sube/tip2200/rh2265.htm

Cheers
Dajo

Herm wrote:
> Hello everybody,
>
> For our W2k3 rollout I have to choose between two backup software
> applications. One of them is Brightstor Arcserve 11 and the other is MS
> Backup wich is buildin the W2k3 OS.
>
> Arcserve is pretty neat and does what it's supposed to do! The minor issue
> is that the package is very fancy and has a lot of functions we even not
> look at! But the backup procedure en capabilities are very good. We use
> Arcserve for years now on our Novell Platforms. No complains there!
>
> Now to the Microsoft Backup software. Actually this is exact what we need. A
> piece of software that is simple and works right like it should be.
> Specially the ASR function is very neat! Now to the minor I have
> encountered!
>
> I created a scheduled backup from monday to friday! With Arcserve I can tell
> the job to format the tape each time before starting the full backup! So
> regardless of wich tape is insert, Arcserve will start a full backup! Why
> can't I do this with MS Backup? If I can solve this issue, we most porbably
> will choose the MS backup software. Otherwise I have to study a few more
> weeks on Arcserve (restoring ;-).
>
> Many thanks in advance,
> Herman Franssen
>
>
>

Hello Dajo,

The link you sended me is THE solution for my problem. But still I have some
questions about the scripts.
Hope you are a little familliar with the scriptting language of MS Backup?

1. In the line <rsm.exe refresh /LF"HP C1537A SCSI Sequential Device"> there
is put the name of the devive used! How can I find the name of my tape
device that I am using? Is the use of this line really necessary? what does
it do exactly?

2. The <sleep 30> command didn't work on my server! You mentioned the
Resource Kit. Where can I find that kit and do I really need the <sleep>
command?

Allthough, with above 2 lines not working correctly, I was able to make
several backups without intervering the process. So please could you explain
to me what above does achieve?

Dajo, I want to speak out many thanks for your help! Thanks.

Herman Franssen


"Dajo Rybski" <(E-Mail Removed)> schreef in bericht
news:%23S$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Maybe this can help you:
> http://www.jsiinc.com/sube/tip2200/rh2265.htm
>
> Cheers
> Dajo

1. That line is used to refresh what Windows sees in your tape device.
After inserting a tape it can take a while before Windows recognizes it.
Forcing a refresh can solve this problem if it occurs.
You can find the correct device name in Computer Management, Storage,
Removable Storage, Physical Locations.

2. Because Windows and the device need some time to do the refresh it's
best to wait for some time before continuing. That is what sleep 30
does, waiting 30 seconds. If you use the refresh command you'll need
this time because after launching the refresh the script continues
immediately without waiting for any result of the refresh command.
Sleep.exe is part of the resource kit which you find here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

Cheers
Dajo

Herm wrote:
> Hello Dajo,
>
> The link you sended me is THE solution for my problem. But still I have some
> questions about the scripts.
> Hope you are a little familliar with the scriptting language of MS Backup?
>
> 1. In the line <rsm.exe refresh /LF"HP C1537A SCSI Sequential Device"> there
> is put the name of the devive used! How can I find the name of my tape
> device that I am using? Is the use of this line really necessary? what does
> it do exactly?
>
> 2. The <sleep 30> command didn't work on my server! You mentioned the
> Resource Kit. Where can I find that kit and do I really need the <sleep>
> command?
>
> Allthough, with above 2 lines not working correctly, I was able to make
> several backups without intervering the process. So please could you explain
> to me what above does achieve?
>
> Dajo, I want to speak out many thanks for your help! Thanks.
>
> Herman Franssen
>
>
> "Dajo Rybski" <(E-Mail Removed)> schreef in bericht
> news:%23S$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>Maybe this can help you:
>>http://www.jsiinc.com/sube/tip2200/rh2265.htm
>>
>>Cheers
>>Dajo
>
>
>

Dajo,

Thank you, Thank you... Way to kind!
It works exactly as I want it to work!

One more question about the LOG files. In the command line I used the switch
/l:s wich creates a standard LOG file. But how can I see if a backup is
succesfull and what the eventual errors are? The /l:f switch doesn't tell me
anything more either. It just displays all the files that have been backed
up?! Any suggestions?

Kind regards,
Herman


"Dajo Rybski" <(E-Mail Removed)> schreef in bericht
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> 1. That line is used to refresh what Windows sees in your tape device.
> After inserting a tape it can take a while before Windows recognizes it.
> Forcing a refresh can solve this problem if it occurs.
> You can find the correct device name in Computer Management, Storage,
> Removable Storage, Physical Locations.
>
> 2. Because Windows and the device need some time to do the refresh it's
> best to wait for some time before continuing. That is what sleep 30
> does, waiting 30 seconds. If you use the refresh command you'll need
> this time because after launching the refresh the script continues
> immediately without waiting for any result of the refresh command.
> Sleep.exe is part of the resource kit which you find here:
>
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>
> Cheers
> Dajo
>
> Herm wrote:
> > Hello Dajo,
> >
> > The link you sended me is THE solution for my problem. But still I have
some
> > questions about the scripts.
> > Hope you are a little familliar with the scriptting language of MS
Backup?
> >
> > 1. In the line <rsm.exe refresh /LF"HP C1537A SCSI Sequential Device">
there
> > is put the name of the devive used! How can I find the name of my tape
> > device that I am using? Is the use of this line really necessary? what
does
> > it do exactly?
> >
> > 2. The <sleep 30> command didn't work on my server! You mentioned the
> > Resource Kit. Where can I find that kit and do I really need the <sleep>
> > command?
> >
> > Allthough, with above 2 lines not working correctly, I was able to make
> > several backups without intervering the process. So please could you
explain
> > to me what above does achieve?
> >
> > Dajo, I want to speak out many thanks for your help! Thanks.
> >
> > Herman Franssen
> >
> >
> > "Dajo Rybski" <(E-Mail Removed)> schreef in bericht
> > news:%23S$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> >>Maybe this can help you:
> >>http://www.jsiinc.com/sube/tip2200/rh2265.htm
> >>
> >>Cheers
> >>Dajo
> >
> >
> >