Fritz box 7270 OR Draytek 2830VN

Simple question really I'm thinking of a new router to replace my Draytek
2600VG and looking at either a Fritz box 7270 or a Draytek 2830Vn both have
similar features, they Draytek has the option of a 3G dongle but much the
same

Any ideas ?

Dave.

Dave submitted this idea :
> Simple question really I'm thinking of a new router to replace my Draytek
> 2600VG and looking at either a Fritz box 7270 or a Draytek 2830Vn both have
> similar features, they Draytek has the option of a 3G dongle but much the
> same
>
> Any ideas ?
>
> Dave.

Do you need the VoIP features?

"Jono" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed). ..
> Dave submitted this idea :
>> Simple question really I'm thinking of a new router to replace my Draytek
>> 2600VG and looking at either a Fritz box 7270 or a Draytek 2830Vn both
>> have similar features, they Draytek has the option of a 3G dongle but
>> much the same
>>
>> Any ideas ?
>>
>> Dave.
>
> Do you need the VoIP features?
>
>

Yes, have it on my Draytek 2600VG, what were you thinking?.

In article <j71re1$et4$(E-Mail Removed)>, Dave wrote:
> Simple question really I'm thinking of a new router to replace my Draytek
> 2600VG and looking at either a Fritz box 7270 or a Draytek 2830Vn both have
> similar features, they Draytek has the option of a 3G dongle but much the
> same
>
> Any ideas ?

I recently replaced a Draytek 2800G with a Belkin F5D8636, purchased in PC
World, since when my ADSL2+ connection speed has more than doubled from about
4.5Mb/s to 11.033Mb/s. Considerably cheaper too. And the lights are blue.

Rod.
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:34:07 +0100, Dave wrote:

> Simple question really I'm thinking of a new router to replace my
> Draytek 2600VG and looking at either a Fritz box 7270 or a Draytek
> 2830Vn both have similar features, they Draytek has the option of a 3G
> dongle but much the same
>
> Any ideas ?
>
> Dave.

Be warned: the 2830Vn can't pass BT-style caller display from the PSTN
line to the phones.

When it detects ringing on the PSTN line, it drops a relay so the phones
connect directly to the line. Great: no echo or other quality issues and
fine with most caller display standards but much too late for the BT one.

I don't know about the Fritz but would be surprised if it has this
problem.




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"Dave" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:j71re1$et4$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Simple question really I'm thinking of a new router to replace my Draytek
> 2600VG and looking at either a Fritz box 7270 or a Draytek 2830Vn both
> have similar features, they Draytek has the option of a 3G dongle but much
> the same
>
> Any ideas ?
>
> Dave.

Both good. We recently installed the Draytek at the office on cable
(Virgin) and ADSL (BT), tried most things, but not [yet] the fallback to 3G
using a dongle.

The only other niggle is that it can't doe 2.4 and 5GHz wi-fi at the same
time (might be fixed by a firmware upgrade) and the Fritzbox can.

"Dave" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:j71re1$et4$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Simple question really I'm thinking of a new router to replace my Draytek
> 2600VG and looking at either a Fritz box 7270 or a Draytek 2830Vn both
> have
> similar features, they Draytek has the option of a 3G dongle but much the
> same
>
> Any ideas ?
>
> Dave.
>

Further to last comparison review in the latest edition of PC-Pro

R. Mark Clayton <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> "Dave" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:j71re1$et4$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Simple question really I'm thinking of a new router to replace my Draytek
> > 2600VG and looking at either a Fritz box 7270 or a Draytek 2830Vn both
> > have similar features, they Draytek has the option of a 3G dongle but much
> > the same
> >
> > Any ideas ?
> >
> > Dave.
>
> Both good. We recently installed the Draytek at the office on cable
> (Virgin) and ADSL (BT), tried most things, but not [yet] the fallback to 3G
> using a dongle.
>
Why do most routers like this have a USB dongle rather than having the
SIM plugged in directly? The interface on USB 3G dongles *isn't* the
same for all so the router software (or the Laptop software if it's
plugged into that) has to adapt itself to the particular dongle - and
there are always some dongles that don't work in some hardware.

I spent a while choosing my 3G router and have one where the SIM plugs
into the router directly. I believe that the SIM interface is much
better defined, certainly my router has been quite happy with SIMs
from a number of different UK and European mobile providers.

It's a pity the 'better' router manufacturers don't make routers into
which the SIM plugs directly.

--
Chris Green

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>Why do most routers like this have a USB dongle rather than having the
>SIM plugged in directly?

Because it is cheaper.

If you were to use a SIM directly, you have to build, or buy in, a
GPRS/3G radio. This is fairly cheap today but still not trivial. At a
wild guess, £10 in components. And a router retailing for say £150 has
to be built for under about £30.

>The interface on USB 3G dongles *isn't* the
>same for all so the router software (or the Laptop software if it's
>plugged into that) has to adapt itself to the particular dongle - and
>there are always some dongles that don't work in some hardware.

Yes; it's a crap approach...

>I spent a while choosing my 3G router and have one where the SIM plugs
>into the router directly. I believe that the SIM interface is much
>better defined, certainly my router has been quite happy with SIMs
>from a number of different UK and European mobile providers.
>
>It's a pity the 'better' router manufacturers don't make routers into
>which the SIM plugs directly.

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> R. Mark Clayton<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>> "Dave"<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:j71re1$et4$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Simple question really I'm thinking of a new router to replace my Draytek
>>> 2600VG and looking at either a Fritz box 7270 or a Draytek 2830Vn both
>>> have similar features, they Draytek has the option of a 3G dongle but much
>>> the same
>>>
>>> Any ideas ?
>>>
>>> Dave.
>>
>> Both good. We recently installed the Draytek at the office on cable
>> (Virgin) and ADSL (BT), tried most things, but not [yet] the fallback to 3G
>> using a dongle.
>>
> Why do most routers like this have a USB dongle rather than having the
> SIM plugged in directly? The interface on USB 3G dongles *isn't* the
> same for all so the router software (or the Laptop software if it's
> plugged into that) has to adapt itself to the particular dongle - and
> there are always some dongles that don't work in some hardware.
>
> I spent a while choosing my 3G router and have one where the SIM plugs
> into the router directly. I believe that the SIM interface is much
> better defined, certainly my router has been quite happy with SIMs
> from a number of different UK and European mobile providers.
>
> It's a pity the 'better' router manufacturers don't make routers into
> which the SIM plugs directly.
>
I suspect primarily because the USB dongle doesn't get a signal unless
it hangs out of a window on a 5 metre cable.

The correct approach would be to have a waterproof 3G receiver with an
Ethernet port, built to use Power over Ethernet. Then have a PoE port
available on the router for its connection.

I've not found such a product, despite looking ...

That way the 3G receiver could be placed on top of a 100 foot pole, if
necessary, where it would stand a sporting chance of getting a signal;
because let's face it, you only want this sort of backup in a rural area
where the ADSL is unreliable, in the first place!

--
Graham J