Free Wi-Fi access on BART in San Francisco during beta

I was pleasantly surprised to find Wi-Fi on BART today in San Francisco.
See "WiFi trial comes to San Francisco's BART trains"
<http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/02/wifi-trial-comes-to-san-franciscos-bart-trains/>
"Wi-Fi Rail Tests WiFi On San Francisco Subway"
<http://www.profy.com/2008/02/02/wifirail/>
"Firm tests Wi-Fi on moving San Francisco trains"
<http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/02/01/wi.fi.rail.on.bart.trains/>
"Free WiFi on BART's Beta Network"
<http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/002699.php>
WiFi Rail home page
<http://www.wifirail.net/>
Registration is free during the beta. No idea how long it will last.

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John Navas <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:

> I was pleasantly surprised to find Wi-Fi on BART today in San Francisco.
> See "WiFi trial comes to San Francisco's BART trains"
> <http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/02/wifi-trial-comes-to-san-franciscos-bart-trains/>
> "Wi-Fi Rail Tests WiFi On San Francisco Subway"
> <http://www.profy.com/2008/02/02/wifirail/>
> "Firm tests Wi-Fi on moving San Francisco trains"
> <http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/02/01/wi.fi.rail.on.bart.trains/>
> "Free WiFi on BART's Beta Network"
> <http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/002699.php>
> WiFi Rail home page
> <http://www.wifirail.net/>
> Registration is free during the beta. No idea how long it will last.

It's a non-starter, as far as I'm concerned. They claim their fee is
$10 for a "day pass". If you might use BART occassionally, the cost
is astronomical for what you get. If you have to pay that for every
nickle and dime operation out there, you'd go broke.

Even with a monthly pass, these guys want $30 per month. If you use
Starbucks, those guys want close to $30 per month.

It's like going through a jungle full of leeches.

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On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 06:29:53 GMT, (E-Mail Removed) (Bill Z.)
wrote in <(E-Mail Removed)>:

>John Navas <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>
>> I was pleasantly surprised to find Wi-Fi on BART today in San Francisco.
>> See "WiFi trial comes to San Francisco's BART trains"
>> <http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/02/wifi-trial-comes-to-san-franciscos-bart-trains/>
>> "Wi-Fi Rail Tests WiFi On San Francisco Subway"
>> <http://www.profy.com/2008/02/02/wifirail/>
>> "Firm tests Wi-Fi on moving San Francisco trains"
>> <http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/02/01/wi.fi.rail.on.bart.trains/>
>> "Free WiFi on BART's Beta Network"
>> <http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/002699.php>
>> WiFi Rail home page
>> <http://www.wifirail.net/>
>> Registration is free during the beta. No idea how long it will last.
>
>It's a non-starter, as far as I'm concerned. They claim their fee is
>$10 for a "day pass". If you might use BART occassionally, the cost
>is astronomical for what you get. If you have to pay that for every
>nickle and dime operation out there, you'd go broke.
>
>Even with a monthly pass, these guys want $30 per month. If you use
>Starbucks, those guys want close to $30 per month.
>
>It's like going through a jungle full of leeches.

Did you miss the currently FREE part?

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On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 03:39:07 GMT, John Navas
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
<(E-Mail Removed)>:

>I was pleasantly surprised to find Wi-Fi on BART today in San Francisco.
>See "WiFi trial comes to San Francisco's BART trains"
><http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/02/wifi-trial-comes-to-san-franciscos-bart-trains/>
>"Wi-Fi Rail Tests WiFi On San Francisco Subway"
><http://www.profy.com/2008/02/02/wifirail/>
>"Firm tests Wi-Fi on moving San Francisco trains"
><http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/02/01/wi.fi.rail.on.bart.trains/>
>"Free WiFi on BART's Beta Network"
><http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/002699.php>
>WiFi Rail home page
><http://www.wifirail.net/>
>Registration is free during the beta. No idea how long it will last.

Heading toward Millbrae from Embarcadero this morning, I had usable
Wi-Fi to Civic Center (4 stations), but not beyond that point.

Wi-Fi access points are in stations and tunnels, not on trains.

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John Navas <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>Did you miss the currently FREE part?

There's no such thing as a free launch.

(Sorry. I couldn't resist).

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In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) (Bill Z.) wrote:

> It's a non-starter, as far as I'm concerned. They claim their fee is
> $10 for a "day pass". If you might use BART occassionally, the cost
> is astronomical for what you get. If you have to pay that for every
> nickle and dime operation out there, you'd go broke.
>
> Even with a monthly pass, these guys want $30 per month. If you use
> Starbucks, those guys want close to $30 per month.

Wonder if iPass will add BART to their list of connections? Starbucks
MacDonalds, etc, are already on it.

On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:33:35 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote in <(E-Mail Removed)>:

>John Navas <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>
>>Did you miss the currently FREE part?
>
>There's no such thing as a free launch.
>
>(Sorry. I couldn't resist).

Bad, really really bad! LOL

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John Navas <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:

> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 06:29:53 GMT, (E-Mail Removed) (Bill Z.)
> wrote in <(E-Mail Removed)>:
>
> >John Navas <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
> >
> >> I was pleasantly surprised to find Wi-Fi on BART today in San Francisco.
> >> See "WiFi trial comes to San Francisco's BART trains"
> >> <http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/02/wifi-trial-comes-to-san-franciscos-bart-trains/>
> >> "Wi-Fi Rail Tests WiFi On San Francisco Subway"
> >> <http://www.profy.com/2008/02/02/wifirail/>
> >> "Firm tests Wi-Fi on moving San Francisco trains"
> >> <http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/02/01/wi.fi.rail.on.bart.trains/>
> >> "Free WiFi on BART's Beta Network"
> >> <http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/002699.php>
> >> WiFi Rail home page
> >> <http://www.wifirail.net/>
> >> Registration is free during the beta. No idea how long it will last.
> >
> >It's a non-starter, as far as I'm concerned. They claim their fee is
> >$10 for a "day pass". If you might use BART occassionally, the cost
> >is astronomical for what you get. If you have to pay that for every
> >nickle and dime operation out there, you'd go broke.
> >
> >Even with a monthly pass, these guys want $30 per month. If you use
> >Starbucks, those guys want close to $30 per month.
> >
> >It's like going through a jungle full of leeches.
>
> Did you miss the currently FREE part?

It's currently free as a promotional gimmick. My guess is that it
won't be free for long. :-(




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AES <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:

> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
> (E-Mail Removed) (Bill Z.) wrote:
>
> > It's a non-starter, as far as I'm concerned. They claim their fee is
> > $10 for a "day pass". If you might use BART occassionally, the cost
> > is astronomical for what you get. If you have to pay that for every
> > nickle and dime operation out there, you'd go broke.
> >
> > Even with a monthly pass, these guys want $30 per month. If you use
> > Starbucks, those guys want close to $30 per month.
>
> Wonder if iPass will add BART to their list of connections? Starbucks
> MacDonalds, etc, are already on it.

No idea, but we have coffee shops in town with free Wi-Fi. It draws
in enough customers that they make more in sales than it costs to
run the service, which just consists of a wifi router connected to
the shop's DSL or Cable connection. If you need it anyway (e.g., for
placing orders on-line) the marginal cost of letting customers use it
is nearly zero.




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On 13 Feb 2008 16:37:03 -0800, (E-Mail Removed) (Bill Z.) wrote
in <(E-Mail Removed)>:

>John Navas <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>
>> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 06:29:53 GMT, (E-Mail Removed) (Bill Z.)
>> wrote in <(E-Mail Removed)>:
>>
>> >John Navas <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>> >
>> >> I was pleasantly surprised to find Wi-Fi on BART today in San Francisco.
>> >> See "WiFi trial comes to San Francisco's BART trains"
>> >> <http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/02/wifi-trial-comes-to-san-franciscos-bart-trains/>
>> >> "Wi-Fi Rail Tests WiFi On San Francisco Subway"
>> >> <http://www.profy.com/2008/02/02/wifirail/>
>> >> "Firm tests Wi-Fi on moving San Francisco trains"
>> >> <http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/02/01/wi.fi.rail.on.bart.trains/>
>> >> "Free WiFi on BART's Beta Network"
>> >> <http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/002699.php>
>> >> WiFi Rail home page
>> >> <http://www.wifirail.net/>
>> >> Registration is free during the beta. No idea how long it will last.
>> >
>> >It's a non-starter, as far as I'm concerned. They claim their fee is
>> >$10 for a "day pass". If you might use BART occassionally, the cost
>> >is astronomical for what you get. If you have to pay that for every
>> >nickle and dime operation out there, you'd go broke.
>> >
>> >Even with a monthly pass, these guys want $30 per month. If you use
>> >Starbucks, those guys want close to $30 per month.
>> >
>> >It's like going through a jungle full of leeches.
>>
>> Did you miss the currently FREE part?
>
>It's currently free as a promotional gimmick. My guess is that it
>won't be free for long. :-(

It's apparently been free for several months. (I only just learned of
it.) Regardless, why would you care? When it stops being free, move
on.

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