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Ian Stirling
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      09-15-2003, 03:44 PM
Is it possible to have a 802.11* network with a public and a private
part?
The public part would have some webpages and stuff that anyone can access,
and the private part access to the internet.

Can anyone point me at a newsgroup?

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      09-15-2003, 05:48 PM
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 15:44:16 +0000 (UTC), Ian Stirling
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>Is it possible to have a 802.11* network with a public and a private
>part?
>The public part would have some webpages and stuff that anyone can access,
>and the private part access to the internet.


I'm new to wireless networking and was thinking, what you have
suggested could eventually enable free or very cheap text messages.

The mobile phone networks had better watch out.

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Ian Stirling
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      09-15-2003, 06:40 PM
Geoff Lane <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 15:44:16 +0000 (UTC), Ian Stirling
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
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>>Is it possible to have a 802.11* network with a public and a private
>>part?
>>The public part would have some webpages and stuff that anyone can access,
>>and the private part access to the internet.

>
> I'm new to wireless networking and was thinking, what you have
> suggested could eventually enable free or very cheap text messages.
>
> The mobile phone networks had better watch out.


Potentially, yes.
I'd be vastly more interested in some protocol to negotiate for access
to a server (over the net via a private pipe) and work out cost with
the wireless node you are in seamlessly.

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      09-15-2003, 07:09 PM
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 15:44:16 +0000 (UTC), Ian Stirling
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>Is it possible to have a 802.11* network with a public and a private
>part?
>The public part would have some webpages and stuff that anyone can access,
>and the private part access to the internet.


can you expand a bit eg would the private/public differentiation be by
the individual ip address, is this to be a small network with a single
wireless access point or something more complex.

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Ian Stirling
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      09-15-2003, 07:19 PM
Phil Thompson <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 15:44:16 +0000 (UTC), Ian Stirling
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Is it possible to have a 802.11* network with a public and a private
>>part?
>>The public part would have some webpages and stuff that anyone can access,
>>and the private part access to the internet.

>
> can you expand a bit eg would the private/public differentiation be by
> the individual ip address, is this to be a small network with a single
> wireless access point or something more complex.


I was more thinking anyone with the key got access to the private bit,
and anyone else the public bit.
I'm unsure about wireless, so was wondering if there was a better group/FAQ
to ask.

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      09-15-2003, 07:37 PM
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:19:38 +0000 (UTC), Ian Stirling
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>I was more thinking anyone with the key got access to the private bit,
>and anyone else the public bit.


that could be handled by the servers on the network eg you have to log
in to get internet access enabled for your IP address.

Wireless hotspots confront you with a login page when you try to
access the internet from them.

>I'm unsure about wireless, so was wondering if there was a better group/FAQ
>to ask.


essentially its ethernet on a different physical medium, so if you can
do it with wires you can probably do it without.

alt.internet.wireless

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/

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      09-15-2003, 08:58 PM
Phil Thompson <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:19:38 +0000 (UTC), Ian Stirling
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>I was more thinking anyone with the key got access to the private bit,
>>and anyone else the public bit.

>
> that could be handled by the servers on the network eg you have to log
> in to get internet access enabled for your IP address.
>
> Wireless hotspots confront you with a login page when you try to
> access the internet from them.
>
>>I'm unsure about wireless, so was wondering if there was a better group/FAQ
>>to ask.

>
> essentially its ethernet on a different physical medium, so if you can
> do it with wires you can probably do it without.


Thanks.
I'm just unsure as to how WEP, ... all add up and play with ARP, DCHP to
make a coherent whole.

I suppose I am more or less after a wireless hotspot, though need to
look into it further.
Thanks.
>
> alt.internet.wireless


Will have a browse.

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      09-15-2003, 09:08 PM
Is there any hotspot in UK that is free for public?


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> Is it possible to have a 802.11* network with a public and a private
> part?
> The public part would have some webpages and stuff that anyone can access,
> and the private part access to the internet.
>
> Can anyone point me at a newsgroup?
>
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      09-15-2003, 09:21 PM
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:08:32 +0100, "Goyan" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>Is there any hotspot in UK that is free for public?


yes.

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