Found in a local newspaper

Gordon Brown is my shepherd
I shall not work.
He leadeth me beside the still factories.
He restoreth my faith in the Conservative Party.
He guideth me in the path of unemployment.
Yea, though I wait for my dole, I own the bank that refuses me.
Brown hath annointed my income with taxes.
My expenses runneth over my income.
Surely, poverty & hard living will follow me all the days of his term.
Henceforth we live all the days of our lives in a rented home with an
overseas landlord.
I am glad to be British.
I am glad I am free.
But I wish I were a dog
and that Brown was a tree.

"Java Jive" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> It's always easy, but not always wise, to send up the government of
> the day, in fact, for those old enough to remember, I've been known to
> do a bit of that meself ...
>
> "Edwina - A Cautionary Salmonella Tale"
> http://www.macfh.co.uk/Macfarlane/Po...na/Edwina.html
>
> ... but we've got a hell of a way to go before Labour's current
> government gets anywhere near the cynical manipulation of democracy
> embodied in Margaret Thatcher's government. Remember all the adverts
> that helped bring them to power?
>
> "Is this the queue for the cinema?"
> "Nah, it's the queue for the dole!"
>
> But anybody who's lived under a Tory government knows that
> unemployment always rises under them, and sure enough before they were
> through with making their political enemies in the unions all jobless,
> there were 3 million out of work.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6247345.stm
>
>
But are the jobs created under Noo Labour real?

Stats show 3 out of 4 jobs are paid for directly or indirectly by the
taxpayer!
So only 1 in 4 are private sector real wealth creators, and 1/3rd of all
jobs
are so low paid, they are subsidised by the tax payer with tax credits ;-(

It ain't rocket science to figure that if you carry on policies like that
for any time it'll end in disaster

Which it has

Steve Terry

<a> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:04:14 +0100, "Steve Terry" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>>"Java Jive" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:(E-Mail Removed). ..
,snip>
>>> But anybody who's lived under a Tory government knows that
>>> unemployment always rises under them, and sure enough before they were
>>> through with making their political enemies in the unions all jobless,
>>> there were 3 million out of work.
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6247345.stm
>>>
>>But are the jobs created under Noo Labour real?
>>
>>Stats show 3 out of 4 jobs are paid for directly or indirectly by the
>>taxpayer!
>>So only 1 in 4 are private sector real wealth creators, and 1/3rd of all
>>jobs
>>are so low paid, they are subsidised by the tax payer with tax credits ;-(
>>
>>It ain't rocket science to figure that if you carry on policies like that
>>for any time it'll end in disaster
>>Which it has
>>Steve Terry
>
> Are these statistics a figment of your fertile imagination or can you
> back them up with some evidence.
>
>
They can be found in places like
http://www.taxpayersalliance.com
and possibly
http://howitends.co.uk/how-many-people-work.php

Maybe i was a little inaccurate with 3 out of 4 jobs, it's probably more
like 2 out of 3, but all set to rise to 3 out of 4

Steve Terry

On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:06:36 +0100, Java Jive <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>It's always easy, but not always wise, to send up the government of
>the day, in fact, for those old enough to remember, I've been known to
>do a bit of that meself ...
>
>"Edwina - A Cautionary Salmonella Tale"
>http://www.macfh.co.uk/Macfarlane/Po...na/Edwina.html
>
>... but we've got a hell of a way to go before Labour's current
>government gets anywhere near the cynical manipulation of democracy
>embodied in Margaret Thatcher's government. Remember all the adverts
>that helped bring them to power?
>
>"Is this the queue for the cinema?"
>"Nah, it's the queue for the dole!"
>
>But anybody who's lived under a Tory government knows that
>unemployment always rises under them, and sure enough before they were
>through with making their political enemies in the unions all jobless,
>there were 3 million out of work.
>
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6247345.stm
>
>New Labour is not much better and not much worse than most other
>democratic governments around the world, which means that it's a whole
>lot better than the last Tory government.
>
>On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:01:31 +0100, Martin ©¿©¬ @nohere.net wrote:
>
>> Gordon Brown is my shepherd
>> I shall not work.
>> He leadeth me beside the still factories.
>> He restoreth my faith in the Conservative Party.
>> He guideth me in the path of unemployment.
>> Yea, though I wait for my dole, I own the bank that refuses me.
>> Brown hath annointed my income with taxes.
>> My expenses runneth over my income.
>> Surely, poverty & hard living will follow me all the days of his term.
>> Henceforth we live all the days of our lives in a rented home with an
>> overseas landlord.
>> I am glad to be British.
>> I am glad I am free.
>> But I wish I were a dog
>> and that Brown was a tree.
>
>Please always reply to news group as the email address in
>this post's header does not exist. Alternatively, use the
>contact address at:
> http://www.macfh.co.uk/JavaJive/JavaJive.html


How old were you when Blair came to power?

On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:16:59 +0100, Java Jive <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>How old are you now?
>
>On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:39:36 +0100, Petert >
>>
>> How old were you when Blair came to power?

You know you should never answer a question with a question - it's
considered bad manners

On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:43:58 +0100, Java Jive <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Almost as bad manners as asking total strangers their age ...
>

Wasn't looking for an exact age - all I was trying to do was see if
you were old enough to actually remember the Thatcher governments.

I'm old enough to remember the Callaghan government when people were
unable to bury their dead etc

On Apr 16, 8:05*am, Petert <peter.tho...@brightchro.me.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:43:58 +0100, Java Jive <j...@evij.com> wrote:
> >Almost as bad manners as asking total strangers their age ...
>
> Wasn't looking for an exact age - all I was trying to do was see if
> you were old enough to actually remember the Thatcher governments.
>
> I'm old enough to remember the Callaghan government when people were
> unable to bury their dead etc

Well at least thats progress. Now we can bury the dead and make glossy
pullout magazines to commemorate it over the course of a few weeks.

Petert wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:43:58 +0100, Java Jive <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Almost as bad manners as asking total strangers their age ...
>>
>
> Wasn't looking for an exact age - all I was trying to do was see if
> you were old enough to actually remember the Thatcher governments.
>
> I'm old enough to remember the Callaghan government when people were
> unable to bury their dead etc

And pay rises were £1 or 1% whichever was the greater. Although self
financing productivity deals were allowed. I was a staff union rep at a
company and we asked for self finacing productivity deal for office staff.
The company said that it could not be done for non productive staff. as
there was nothing to link our productivity to. We devised one, they did not
understand it and knew that it would not work so they allowed it. We
understood it and knew how to manipulate it and it always paid us near the
maximum of 33%. The shop foor staff were furious as they could not work hard
enough to get anything like that on their piece work rates.
I believe that it was mainly in Liverpool that were unable to bury their
dead perhaps because it was difficult there to tell the dead from the
undead:-)

http://money.uk.msn.com/investing/ar...entid=13114301
Derek