Fonero

http://en.fon.com/

Anyone familiar with this? It seems to be like Meraki.

"Karen" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>http://en.fon.com/
>Anyone familiar with this? It seems to be like Meraki.

Yes, I'm familiar with FON. What would you like to know that's not in
the web pages?

FON is NOT like Meraki. Meraki is a mesh network built on the
technology from MIT Roofnet Mesh. FON is not a mesh. Meraki is
targeting ISP's, while FON is targeting individual users that have
their own broadband connection that they're willing to share. Meraki
has a management system to remotely run the wireless mesh. FON
doesn't manage anything.

Both have some interesting investors, projects and ideas:
<http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/>
<http://en.fon.com/info/whos_behind.php>

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Thanks. I had searched for Fonero in this group, didn't know it was
called FON.
Also I didn't know it wasn't mesh. This is a whole new world for me.
I was just wondering what people thought of it.


On Feb 11, 12:21 am, Jeff Liebermann <j...@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us>
wrote:

>
> FON is NOT like Meraki. Meraki is a mesh network built on the
> technology from MIT Roofnet Mesh. FON is not a mesh. Meraki is
> targeting ISP's, while FON is targeting individual users that have
> their own broadband connection that they're willing to share. Meraki
> has a management system to remotely run the wireless mesh. FON
> doesn't manage anything.
>
> Both have some interesting investors, projects and ideas:
> <http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/>
> <http://en.fon.com/info/whos_behind.php>
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann j...@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

"Karen" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>Thanks. I had searched for Fonero in this group, didn't know it was
>called FON.
>Also I didn't know it wasn't mesh. This is a whole new world for me.
>I was just wondering what people thought of it.

Fonero is the person that has a FON router installed. La Fonera is
the replacement software for the router. I don't pretend to
understand the terminology. (Hint: The founder is from Argentina).
There's some clues here:
<http://en.fon.com/info/whats_fon.php>

I have a rather marginal opinion of the whole thing. We have three
local FON routers setup at various peoples houses and offices (all
using WRT54GL routers with OpenWRT firmware). They've been operating
for about 9 months. One of them is running a fake FON router:
<http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/La_Fonera_Simulate_Fon_Heartbeat>
(The surest sign of success if reverse engineering).

The major problem I've seen is that visitors and neighbors seem to
want to "take over" the system. Stolen logins and passwords seem to
be commonly available. If the owner wants to use it, there's very
little bandwidth left. I've had to go around and impliment QoS on two
of these routers to maintain some semblence of sanity. Basically, it
makes sense if you have a FON system or account.

However, that's just my marginal opinion. I'm sure there are others
that have done better or it would have died long ago. Methinks you'll
do better asking questions on the FON blog and BBS at:
<http://blog.fon.com/en/>
<http://boards.fon.com/>

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Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Karen wrote:
> Thanks. I had searched for Fonero in this group, didn't know it was
> called FON.
> Also I didn't know it wasn't mesh. This is a whole new world for me.
> I was just wondering what people thought of it.
>
>
> On Feb 11, 12:21 am, Jeff Liebermann <j...@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us>
> wrote:
>
>> FON is NOT like Meraki. Meraki is a mesh network built on the
>> technology from MIT Roofnet Mesh. FON is not a mesh. Meraki is
>> targeting ISP's, while FON is targeting individual users that have
>> their own broadband connection that they're willing to share. Meraki
>> has a management system to remotely run the wireless mesh. FON
>> doesn't manage anything.
>>
>> Both have some interesting investors, projects and ideas:
>> <http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/>
>> <http://en.fon.com/info/whos_behind.php>
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Liebermann j...@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
>> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
>> Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com
>> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
>
>

Consider that you will be sharing your internet connection with the "world."

Karen <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Thanks. I had searched for Fonero in this group, didn't know it was
> called FON.
> Also I didn't know it wasn't mesh. This is a whole new world for me.
> I was just wondering what people thought of it.

I've used the service in Spain recently, as an "Alien." Very happy with
the service, and the price was terrific. I bought 5 one-day passes for
10 euro. The first time I used the service, I couldn't get streaming
(e.g. for watching BBC news) but it was fine the other times.

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