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Chalkie
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      12-06-2003, 07:37 PM
Is anyone using this router with a fixed IP address & can succesfully ping
it from a remote machine ? Mine doesnt seem to respond to remote pings &
I'm wondering if I have it configured correctly. Is there an option for
enabling/disabling its ability to respond to pings ?


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Colin Wilson
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      12-06-2003, 10:21 PM
> Is anyone using this router with a fixed IP address & can succesfully ping
> it from a remote machine ? Mine doesnt seem to respond to remote pings &
> I'm wondering if I have it configured correctly. Is there an option for
> enabling/disabling its ability to respond to pings ?


I`m not on a fixed IP address, but I use a dynamic address to connect to
VNC etc remotely with an AR41.

I think they`re normally designed so that they will only listen to
traffic they were expecting, so if you had an application that sent a
request for information, it would allow the "returning" data in.
Likewise, if you had a port forwarded and a corresponding server on your
machine, you will get through.

All other "noise" is dropped and ignored.

You may be able to forward a port to allow the ping to respond, but i`m
not sure which one. This would tell every hacker and his dog your system
existed.

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      12-06-2003, 10:57 PM
On 6 Dec 2003 20:37, "Chalkie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Mine doesnt seem to respond to remote pings &
>I'm wondering if I have it configured correctly.


If you've changed anything, it is showing pings now, as well as
10% packet loss (hope you weren't in the middle of some game!)
 
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      12-07-2003, 07:23 AM
My ultimate aim is to enable remote management of the router so I've set up
what I think are the appropriate entries in the configuration & enabled
remote HTTP & Telnet management & when I found that I couldnt log in from a
remote pc I tried to ping the router. It didnt respond to that, hence my
original post.

"Colin Wilson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> > Is anyone using this router with a fixed IP address & can succesfully

ping
> > it from a remote machine ? Mine doesnt seem to respond to remote pings

&
> > I'm wondering if I have it configured correctly. Is there an option for
> > enabling/disabling its ability to respond to pings ?

>
> I`m not on a fixed IP address, but I use a dynamic address to connect to
> VNC etc remotely with an AR41.
>
> I think they`re normally designed so that they will only listen to
> traffic they were expecting, so if you had an application that sent a
> request for information, it would allow the "returning" data in.
> Likewise, if you had a port forwarded and a corresponding server on your
> machine, you will get through.
>
> All other "noise" is dropped and ignored.
>
> You may be able to forward a port to allow the ping to respond, but i`m
> not sure which one. This would tell every hacker and his dog your system
> existed.
>
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      12-07-2003, 07:25 AM
Peter,

I'm not posting from a pc behind the offending router.

"Peter Morgan - 0870 432 9631" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On 6 Dec 2003 20:37, "Chalkie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >Mine doesnt seem to respond to remote pings &
> >I'm wondering if I have it configured correctly.

>
> If you've changed anything, it is showing pings now, as well as
> 10% packet loss (hope you weren't in the middle of some game!)



 
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      12-07-2003, 10:15 AM
> My ultimate aim is to enable remote management of the router so I've set up
> what I think are the appropriate entries in the configuration & enabled
> remote HTTP & Telnet management & when I found that I couldnt log in from a
> remote pc I tried to ping the router. It didnt respond to that, hence my
> original post.


I would be wary about allowing remote access to router settings - how
often would you need to change them ?

If you only need to do this occasionally, would you be better getting
someone to run a VNC server within the network you want to alter, so you
can make the changes then close the VNC server down yourself ?

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      12-07-2003, 11:13 AM
Colin,
Thanks for the advice but I'm setting up the router for a game-playing
friend who is not very technically minded. I want to do it this way so that
I can set up port-forwarding etc without having to trek to his house to do
it.




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> > My ultimate aim is to enable remote management of the router so I've set

up
> > what I think are the appropriate entries in the configuration & enabled
> > remote HTTP & Telnet management & when I found that I couldnt log in

from a
> > remote pc I tried to ping the router. It didnt respond to that, hence

my
> > original post.

>
> I would be wary about allowing remote access to router settings - how
> often would you need to change them ?
>
> If you only need to do this occasionally, would you be better getting
> someone to run a VNC server within the network you want to alter, so you
> can make the changes then close the VNC server down yourself ?
>
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      12-07-2003, 12:24 PM
> Thanks for the advice but I'm setting up the router for a game-playing
> friend who is not very technically minded. I want to do it this way so that
> I can set up port-forwarding etc without having to trek to his house to do
> it.


Great, so at least you`ll know someone will be in to run VNC... i`d
definitely go that route to be honest, and then you can admin the router
"locally" from his machine without leaving your house :-)

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      12-07-2003, 10:13 PM
Colin,
Thanks, I'll give your suggestion a try but Im still puzzled by the fact
that there is an option to manage the router via the internet and yet we
have to use a convoluted way of achieving the same result


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> > Thanks for the advice but I'm setting up the router for a game-playing
> > friend who is not very technically minded. I want to do it this way so

that
> > I can set up port-forwarding etc without having to trek to his house to

do
> > it.

>
> Great, so at least you`ll know someone will be in to run VNC... i`d
> definitely go that route to be honest, and then you can admin the router
> "locally" from his machine without leaving your house :-)
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      12-08-2003, 01:37 AM
On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 23:13:27 -0000, "Chalkie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Thanks, I'll give your suggestion a try but Im still puzzled by the fact
>that there is an option to manage the router via the internet and yet we
>have to use a convoluted way of achieving the same result


You don't, but it is a lot safer (the PC running VNC can have a software
firewall restricting which remote IP(s) are allowed to access it, so it
can limit the chance of hackers using VNC, and then from the PC, making
a connection to the router is safe. The router might not restrict the
IP address for internet connections (I know some do, but not all) so it
leaves the router as a target, especially of you don't change from the
default port (80) for control over the router... give someone a way in
and they'll perhaps have tools to mount a sledgehammer attack to break
in... OK, they might find out little, but it could be annoying to find
PCs on the LAN locked out of internet access (something I think this
router can do). Peter M.
 
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