Fix that darn IPC$ error!!

When trying to access a network drive on a Linux computer with samba server
from a Windows 98 computer, I receive an IPC$ dialog box like the image
here:
http://www.homenethelp.com/web/howto...dialog-ipc.gif

On the same network other win98 computers can log in...
however (and this may be the clue) on those computers you have to log in
when windows starts
and a dialog box like this emerges:

http://www.homenethelp.com/web/howto...win98login.gif

On the machine that cannot login and gets the IPC& dialog , windows logs in
automatically and is not prompted for a login when windows starts.
Is this the problem? And if so how can I make the win98 login emerge?

Please help this is very annoying

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In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Kenny S"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>When trying to access a network drive on a Linux computer with samba server
>from a Windows 98 computer, I receive an IPC$ dialog box like the image
>here:
>http://www.homenethelp.com/web/howto...dialog-ipc.gif
>
>On the same network other win98 computers can log in...
>however (and this may be the clue) on those computers you have to log in
>when windows starts
>and a dialog box like this emerges:
>
>http://www.homenethelp.com/web/howto...win98login.gif
>
>On the machine that cannot login and gets the IPC& dialog , windows logs in
>automatically and is not prompted for a login when windows starts.
>Is this the problem? And if so how can I make the win98 login emerge?
>
>Please help this is very annoying

Yes, the lack of a login prompt is probably the problem. To see,
click Start and see if there's an entry saying "Log off <username>" or
just "Log Off". The first one is OK, and the second one indicates a
problem. If there's no user name, click "Log Off" and log back in
with a user name. If that makes Samba access work, here's a likely
permanent solution: run the registry editor, open this registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
Network\Real Mode Net

and delete the value named "AutoLogon". This web site explains how to
do it:

http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/nologon.htm#AutoLogon
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
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Thank you for your help...

Please tell me this:
how does a person create a logon user?
In XP you must create a USER ACCOUNT, what do you have to do on windows 98?
You just write a new username and a new password in the dialog box and thats
it?
Are the passwords stored somewhere? What is the use of such a log in?
I cant really understand it.

And another thing... on the same network I formated another computer and
installed windows 98SE because of a virus.
This computer was working before and could log on to the network.
The OS autodetected the old ISA erthernet card (3com etherlink III isa) and
installed it.
I configured the network with a ip 192.168.0.10 and mask 255.255.255.0
similarly to the other machines, but all I see in the
network neighborhood is the icon with the globe that says ENTIRE NETWORK.

What can be the problem? Is it perhaps that the network card does not have
the correct drivers?
Or could it be that I do not log in with the user-password? This is
confusing... it worked before!

FInally, Steve, since you helped me before with a dsl sharring problem, can
you PLEASE give me a way to contact you ? msn, yahoo, icq email, anything?
I need some help with this network stuff from somebody who what hes/shes
doing....

If you dont want to publish that info here send me an email to
(E-Mail Removed)
but remove the nospam

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Hope this helps. Let us know.
_____________
Kenny S
http://www.computerboom.net
FREE programs and MORE!

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"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Kenny S"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >When trying to access a network drive on a Linux computer with samba
server
> >from a Windows 98 computer, I receive an IPC$ dialog box like the image
> >here:
> >http://www.homenethelp.com/web/howto...dialog-ipc.gif
> >
> >On the same network other win98 computers can log in...
> >however (and this may be the clue) on those computers you have to log in
> >when windows starts
> >and a dialog box like this emerges:
> >
> >http://www.homenethelp.com/web/howto...win98login.gif
> >
> >On the machine that cannot login and gets the IPC& dialog , windows logs
in
> >automatically and is not prompted for a login when windows starts.
> >Is this the problem? And if so how can I make the win98 login emerge?
> >
> >Please help this is very annoying
>
> Yes, the lack of a login prompt is probably the problem. To see,
> click Start and see if there's an entry saying "Log off <username>" or
> just "Log Off". The first one is OK, and the second one indicates a
> problem. If there's no user name, click "Log Off" and log back in
> with a user name. If that makes Samba access work, here's a likely
> permanent solution: run the registry editor, open this registry key:
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
> Network\Real Mode Net
>
> and delete the value named "AutoLogon". This web site explains how to
> do it:
>
> http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/nologon.htm#AutoLogon
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

and another question.... what happens when 2 computers log on to the network
using the same username and password?


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"Kenny S" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thank you for your help...
>
> Please tell me this:
> how does a person create a logon user?
> In XP you must create a USER ACCOUNT, what do you have to do on windows
98?
> You just write a new username and a new password in the dialog box and
thats
> it?
> Are the passwords stored somewhere? What is the use of such a log in?
> I cant really understand it.
>
> And another thing... on the same network I formated another computer and
> installed windows 98SE because of a virus.
> This computer was working before and could log on to the network.
> The OS autodetected the old ISA erthernet card (3com etherlink III isa)
and
> installed it.
> I configured the network with a ip 192.168.0.10 and mask 255.255.255.0
> similarly to the other machines, but all I see in the
> network neighborhood is the icon with the globe that says ENTIRE NETWORK.
>
> What can be the problem? Is it perhaps that the network card does not have
> the correct drivers?
> Or could it be that I do not log in with the user-password? This is
> confusing... it worked before!
>
> FInally, Steve, since you helped me before with a dsl sharring problem,
can
> you PLEASE give me a way to contact you ? msn, yahoo, icq email, anything?
> I need some help with this network stuff from somebody who what hes/shes
> doing....
>
> If you dont want to publish that info here send me an email to
> (E-Mail Removed)
> but remove the nospam
>
> --
>
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
> _____________
> Kenny S
> http://www.computerboom.net
> FREE programs and MORE!
>
> ---
>
> "Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Kenny S"
> > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > >When trying to access a network drive on a Linux computer with samba
> server
> > >from a Windows 98 computer, I receive an IPC$ dialog box like the
image
> > >here:
> > >http://www.homenethelp.com/web/howto...dialog-ipc.gif
> > >
> > >On the same network other win98 computers can log in...
> > >however (and this may be the clue) on those computers you have to log
in
> > >when windows starts
> > >and a dialog box like this emerges:
> > >
> > >http://www.homenethelp.com/web/howto...win98login.gif
> > >
> > >On the machine that cannot login and gets the IPC& dialog , windows
logs
> in
> > >automatically and is not prompted for a login when windows starts.
> > >Is this the problem? And if so how can I make the win98 login emerge?
> > >
> > >Please help this is very annoying
> >
> > Yes, the lack of a login prompt is probably the problem. To see,
> > click Start and see if there's an entry saying "Log off <username>" or
> > just "Log Off". The first one is OK, and the second one indicates a
> > problem. If there's no user name, click "Log Off" and log back in
> > with a user name. If that makes Samba access work, here's a likely
> > permanent solution: run the registry editor, open this registry key:
> >
> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
> > Network\Real Mode Net
> >
> > and delete the value named "AutoLogon". This web site explains how to
> > do it:
> >
> > http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/nologon.htm#AutoLogon
> > --
> > Best Wishes,
> > Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
> >
> > Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> > for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> > addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
> >
> > Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
>

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 20:15:04 +0300, "Kenny S" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>You just write a new username and a new password in the dialog box and thats
>it?

Yes.

>Are the passwords stored somewhere? What is the use of such a log in?
>I cant really understand it.

The passwords are stored encrypted in files with the suffix .PWL in
the windows directory. eg username.pwl

It's not just your logon password, it's all the other passwords too
eg. your Internet dialup password. To dialup your Internet account you
must be logged on with the correct username you usually use or you
will have to re-enter the dialup's username/password combination
again.

>
>And another thing... on the same network I formated another computer and
>installed windows 98SE because of a virus.
>This computer was working before and could log on to the network.
>The OS autodetected the old ISA erthernet card (3com etherlink III isa) and
>installed it.
>I configured the network with a ip 192.168.0.10 and mask 255.255.255.0
>similarly to the other machines, but all I see in the
>network neighborhood is the icon with the globe that says ENTIRE NETWORK.
>
>What can be the problem? Is it perhaps that the network card does not have
>the correct drivers?
>Or could it be that I do not log in with the user-password? This is
>confusing... it worked before!

It's reinstalling win98 which often causes the autologon problem Steve
described earlier. You may well need to delete that value then log on
as a specific username when asked.

>
>FInally, Steve, since you helped me before with a dsl sharring problem, can
>you PLEASE give me a way to contact you ? msn, yahoo, icq email, anything?
>I need some help with this network stuff from somebody who what hes/shes
>doing....
>

Just keep on posting. You will get the same response as you would by
email and everyone else can see it too if they have similar problems.


Jim.

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 20:37:57 +0300, "Kenny S" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>and another question.... what happens when 2 computers log on to the network
>using the same username and password?

It doesn't matter, the computers appear on the network as their
computer names not based on who is logged onto them.


Jim.

so the autologon problem makes only the ENTIRE NETWORK visable?
Because that could be the problem with the computer not seeing the network.
Can you explain, or send me to a site explaining why this happens?

Another question if I PING another computer from the command prompt
even when I am seeing only the entire network (autologon) will I get a
reply?

--

Hope this helps. Let us know.
_____________
Kenny S
http://www.computerboom.net
FREE programs and MORE!

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"James Egan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 20:15:04 +0300, "Kenny S" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> >You just write a new username and a new password in the dialog box and
thats
> >it?
>
> Yes.
>
> >Are the passwords stored somewhere? What is the use of such a log in?
> >I cant really understand it.
>
> The passwords are stored encrypted in files with the suffix .PWL in
> the windows directory. eg username.pwl
>
> It's not just your logon password, it's all the other passwords too
> eg. your Internet dialup password. To dialup your Internet account you
> must be logged on with the correct username you usually use or you
> will have to re-enter the dialup's username/password combination
> again.
>
> >
> >And another thing... on the same network I formated another computer and
> >installed windows 98SE because of a virus.
> >This computer was working before and could log on to the network.
> >The OS autodetected the old ISA erthernet card (3com etherlink III isa)
and
> >installed it.
> >I configured the network with a ip 192.168.0.10 and mask 255.255.255.0
> >similarly to the other machines, but all I see in the
> >network neighborhood is the icon with the globe that says ENTIRE NETWORK.
> >
> >What can be the problem? Is it perhaps that the network card does not
have
> >the correct drivers?
> >Or could it be that I do not log in with the user-password? This is
> >confusing... it worked before!
>
> It's reinstalling win98 which often causes the autologon problem Steve
> described earlier. You may well need to delete that value then log on
> as a specific username when asked.
>
> >
> >FInally, Steve, since you helped me before with a dsl sharring problem,
can
> >you PLEASE give me a way to contact you ? msn, yahoo, icq email,
anything?
> >I need some help with this network stuff from somebody who what hes/shes
> >doing....
> >
>
> Just keep on posting. You will get the same response as you would by
> email and everyone else can see it too if they have similar problems.
>
>
> Jim.
>
>

"Kenny S" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thank you for your help...
>
> Please tell me this:
> how does a person create a logon user?
> In XP you must create a USER ACCOUNT, what do you have to do on windows
98?
> You just write a new username and a new password in the dialog box and
thats
> it?

Right click Network Neighborhood, set the primary logon to Client for MS
Networks.

While you're at it check the workgroup setting on the identification tab.
Might as well check the file and print sharing settings.


> Are the passwords stored somewhere? What is the use of such a log in?
> I cant really understand it.
>
> And another thing... on the same network I formated another computer and
> installed windows 98SE because of a virus.
> This computer was working before and could log on to the network.
> The OS autodetected the old ISA erthernet card (3com etherlink III isa)
and
> installed it.
> I configured the network with a ip 192.168.0.10 and mask 255.255.255.0
> similarly to the other machines, but all I see in the
> network neighborhood is the icon with the globe that says ENTIRE NETWORK.
>
> What can be the problem? Is it perhaps that the network card does not have
> the correct drivers?
> Or could it be that I do not log in with the user-password? This is
> confusing... it worked before!
>

See above about identification and sharing. It's easy to forget to reset
these.


> FInally, Steve, since you helped me before with a dsl sharring problem,
can
> you PLEASE give me a way to contact you ? msn, yahoo, icq email, anything?
> I need some help with this network stuff from somebody who what hes/shes
> doing....
>
> If you dont want to publish that info here send me an email to
> (E-Mail Removed)
> but remove the nospam
>
> --
>
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
> _____________
> Kenny S
> http://www.computerboom.net
> FREE programs and MORE!
>
> ---
>
> "Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Kenny S"
> > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > >When trying to access a network drive on a Linux computer with samba
> server
> > >from a Windows 98 computer, I receive an IPC$ dialog box like the
image
> > >here:
> > >http://www.homenethelp.com/web/howto...dialog-ipc.gif
> > >
> > >On the same network other win98 computers can log in...
> > >however (and this may be the clue) on those computers you have to log
in
> > >when windows starts
> > >and a dialog box like this emerges:
> > >
> > >http://www.homenethelp.com/web/howto...win98login.gif
> > >
> > >On the machine that cannot login and gets the IPC& dialog , windows
logs
> in
> > >automatically and is not prompted for a login when windows starts.
> > >Is this the problem? And if so how can I make the win98 login emerge?
> > >
> > >Please help this is very annoying
> >
> > Yes, the lack of a login prompt is probably the problem. To see,
> > click Start and see if there's an entry saying "Log off <username>" or
> > just "Log Off". The first one is OK, and the second one indicates a
> > problem. If there's no user name, click "Log Off" and log back in
> > with a user name. If that makes Samba access work, here's a likely
> > permanent solution: run the registry editor, open this registry key:
> >
> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
> > Network\Real Mode Net
> >
> > and delete the value named "AutoLogon". This web site explains how to
> > do it:
> >
> > http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/nologon.htm#AutoLogon
> > --
> > Best Wishes,
> > Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
> >
> > Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> > for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> > addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
> >
> > Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
>


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On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:51:34 +0300, "Kenny S" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>so the autologon problem makes only the ENTIRE NETWORK visable?
>Because that could be the problem with the computer not seeing the network.
>Can you explain, or send me to a site explaining why this happens?
>

No, I didn't mean that. I meant that when you re-install win9x, a
common occurrance during setup is the addition of the autologon value
into the registry which will stop you from connecting to network
shares with an access is denied type of error message.

Just go into the registry, look in
HKLM/software/microsoft/windows/currentversion/network/realmodenet
and if you see an entry called autologon then delete it.

Browsing problems are a different matter. You can't expect machines to
appear in the network neighbourhood straight away though you should be
able to connect immediately using find->computer->name if your
workgroup and other configuration settings are correct.

You only want one machine to be the browse master, so set the one
which is up the most often to be the browse master, leave another one
(or maybe two) on auto in case the browse master machine is off for
some reason and disable browse master on the others. This is set in
the file and printer sharing properties (enabled, disabled, automatic)

>Another question if I PING another computer from the command prompt
>even when I am seeing only the entire network (autologon) will I get a
>reply?

Forget about autologon until you can see the machines. You should be
able to ping, yes. Ping is a basic connectivity check. Ensure this is
working first before you attempt to tackle browsing or other problems.
Ping all the computers using numbers (ip addresses) first and if that
works then ping using names instead of numbers.


Jim.

thanks Jim and others, all the problems were solved!


____________
Kenny S
http://www.computerboom.net
FREE programs and MORE!

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"James Egan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:51:34 +0300, "Kenny S" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> >so the autologon problem makes only the ENTIRE NETWORK visable?
> >Because that could be the problem with the computer not seeing the
network.
> >Can you explain, or send me to a site explaining why this happens?
> >
>
> No, I didn't mean that. I meant that when you re-install win9x, a
> common occurrance during setup is the addition of the autologon value
> into the registry which will stop you from connecting to network
> shares with an access is denied type of error message.
>
> Just go into the registry, look in
> HKLM/software/microsoft/windows/currentversion/network/realmodenet
> and if you see an entry called autologon then delete it.
>
> Browsing problems are a different matter. You can't expect machines to
> appear in the network neighbourhood straight away though you should be
> able to connect immediately using find->computer->name if your
> workgroup and other configuration settings are correct.
>
> You only want one machine to be the browse master, so set the one
> which is up the most often to be the browse master, leave another one
> (or maybe two) on auto in case the browse master machine is off for
> some reason and disable browse master on the others. This is set in
> the file and printer sharing properties (enabled, disabled, automatic)
>
> >Another question if I PING another computer from the command prompt
> >even when I am seeing only the entire network (autologon) will I get a
> >reply?
>
> Forget about autologon until you can see the machines. You should be
> able to ping, yes. Ping is a basic connectivity check. Ensure this is
> working first before you attempt to tackle browsing or other problems.
> Ping all the computers using numbers (ip addresses) first and if that
> works then ping using names instead of numbers.
>
>
> Jim.
>