Firewall protection with XP

How do I enable the built in XP Firewall while surfing wirelessly? I
have SP 2 installed. I am a mac user so I am not clear on this.

Thank you.

Rick.Pearl wrote:
> How do I enable the built in XP Firewall while surfing wirelessly? I
> have SP 2 installed. I am a mac user so I am not clear on this.
>
> Thank you.
>
start\settings\control panel\security center\

Pen <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>Rick.Pearl wrote:
>> How do I enable the built in XP Firewall while surfing wirelessly? I
>> have SP 2 installed. I am a mac user so I am not clear on this.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>start\settings\control panel\security center\

Start -> Settings -> Control Panel -> Windoze Firewall
Check the box "Enable firewall".

Then go to the Exceptions tab and make sure that Windoze File and
Print Sharing are NOT checked as an exception. There may be some
other services of dubious value that don't need to be accepting
incoming connections. If you're not sure, check the box "Don't allow
exceptions" on the first page where you enabled the firewall.

--
Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On May 20, 8:33 pm, Jeff Liebermann <j...@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us>
wrote:
> Pen <pen34usnos...@hotmailnospam.com> hath wroth:
>
> >Rick.Pearl wrote:
> >> How do I enable the built in XP Firewall while surfing wirelessly? I
> >> have SP 2 installed. I am a mac user so I am not clear on this.
>
> >> Thank you.
>
> >start\settings\control panel\security center\
>
> Start -> Settings -> Control Panel -> Windoze Firewall
> Check the box "Enable firewall".
>
> Then go to the Exceptions tab and make sure that Windoze File and
> Print Sharing are NOT checked as an exception. There may be some
> other services of dubious value that don't need to be accepting
> incoming connections. If you're not sure, check the box "Don't allow
> exceptions" on the first page where you enabled the firewall.
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann j...@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Or, mo-betta IMHO, go to http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/,
download and install. Comodo firewall is 2-way (incoming/outgoing),
and can be readily instructed on the fly as to what to block/pass.

Of course, if using Comodo's, disable Windows firewall. And be
fussy as to what to allow. Sometimes, just getting notice of what
process is trying to send outgoing traffic is very informative.

It does help to understand what the significance of ports is.

J

(E-Mail Removed) hath wroth:

>Or, mo-betta IMHO, go to http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/,
>download and install. Comodo firewall is 2-way (incoming/outgoing),
>and can be readily instructed on the fly as to what to block/pass.
>
>Of course, if using Comodo's, disable Windows firewall. And be
>fussy as to what to allow. Sometimes, just getting notice of what
>process is trying to send outgoing traffic is very informative.
>
>It does help to understand what the significance of ports is.
>
>J

There isn't a single 3rd party firewall product that doesn't claim to
be better than the Windoze firewall. Everyone starts with the
features of the Windoze firewall and then adds value (features,
functions, support, glitch, etc). The Windoze firewall does have the
limitation in that it only inspects incoming traffic, which was all it
was ever intended to do. There are other firewall products that will
also inspect outgoing traffic.

The problem with the stock Windoze firewall is that most users don't
know how to configure, troubleshoot, or add/delete ports and services.
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357>
Microsoft didn't make it very easy, and if done wrong, it's a PITA to
find and fix. Various programs that modify the firewall configuration
add complexity. For example, the typical AOL installation will have
up to 12 almost identical entries in the exceptions list. I don't
consider ZoneAlarm, Norton or McAfee firewalls to any easier to deal
with. The firewall is also the number one target of virus and worm
attacks. Yeah, it can always be done better. Whether better is
really necessary depends on what you're trying to accomplish and how
much complexity you want to deal with.

--
Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On May 20, 9:40 pm, b...@sme-online.com wrote:
> On May 20, 8:33 pm, Jeff Liebermann <j...@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Pen <pen34usnos...@hotmailnospam.com> hath wroth:
>
> > >Rick.Pearl wrote:
> > >> How do I enable the built in XP Firewall while surfing wirelessly? I
> > >> have SP 2 installed. I am a mac user so I am not clear on this.
>
> > >> Thank you.
>
> > >start\settings\control panel\security center\
>
> > Start -> Settings -> Control Panel -> Windoze Firewall
> > Check the box "Enable firewall".
>
> > Then go to the Exceptions tab and make sure that Windoze File and
> > Print Sharing are NOT checked as an exception. There may be some
> > other services of dubious value that don't need to be accepting
> > incoming connections. If you're not sure, check the box "Don't allow
> > exceptions" on the first page where you enabled the firewall.
>
> > --
> > Jeff Liebermann j...@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
> > 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> > Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com
> > Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
>
> Or, mo-betta IMHO, go tohttp://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/,
> download and install. Comodo firewall is 2-way (incoming/outgoing),
> and can be readily instructed on the fly as to what to block/pass.
>
> Of course, if using Comodo's, disable Windows firewall. And be
> fussy as to what to allow. Sometimes, just getting notice of what
> process is trying to send outgoing traffic is very informative.
>
> It does help to understand what the significance of ports is.
>
> J- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

After reading an informative essay by a security expert* on why
Windows firewall DOES work, I'm now recommending to only use it. Why?
because the others have more overhead, cause constant confusion about
what to accept, because Windows FW is already there and works with
most everything.

Most any software you install will consider that Windows firewall is
present. Zone Alarm, Kerio whatever is an additional issue that may
have to be dealt with.

I have not had any trouble setting up ports, exceptions etc in
Windows. Most programs do it automatically.

*In sum, the "expert" comments the Windows Firewall is mostly derided
for being one-way.
In fact keeping intruders out is what we NEED and keeping intruders IN
is a stop-gap at best. At that point, you are already in trouble.
Closing the barn-door and all that.

I do use Win-Patrol as a general system watchdog as well. Keeps you
informed on things that are trying to change your system. I find it
easier for novices to manage than the firewalls.

Have about a dozen pcs on Window firewall and no problems for years.

Steve

On May 21, 11:56 am, seaweedsteve <seaweedst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 20, 9:40 pm, b...@sme-online.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 20, 8:33 pm, Jeff Liebermann <j...@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Pen <pen34usnos...@hotmailnospam.com> hath wroth:
>
> > > >Rick.Pearl wrote:
> > > >> How do I enable the built in XP Firewall while surfing wirelessly? I
> > > >> have SP 2 installed. I am a mac user so I am not clear on this.
>
> > > >> Thank you.
>
> > > >start\settings\control panel\security center\
>
> > > Start -> Settings -> Control Panel -> Windoze Firewall
> > > Check the box "Enable firewall".
>
> > > Then go to the Exceptions tab and make sure that Windoze File and
> > > Print Sharing are NOT checked as an exception. There may be some
> > > other services of dubious value that don't need to be accepting
> > > incoming connections. If you're not sure, check the box "Don't allow
> > > exceptions" on the first page where you enabled the firewall.
>
> > > --
> > > Jeff Liebermann j...@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
> > > 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> > > Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com
> > > Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
>
> > Or, mo-betta IMHO, go tohttp://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/,
> > download and install. Comodo firewall is 2-way (incoming/outgoing),
> > and can be readily instructed on the fly as to what to block/pass.
>
> > Of course, if using Comodo's, disable Windows firewall. And be
> > fussy as to what to allow. Sometimes, just getting notice of what
> > process is trying to send outgoing traffic is very informative.
>
> > It does help to understand what the significance of ports is.
>
> > J- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> After reading an informative essay by a security expert* on why
> Windows firewall DOES work, I'm now recommending to only use it. Why?
> because the others have more overhead, cause constant confusion about
> what to accept, because Windows FW is already there and works with
> most everything.
>
> Most any software you install will consider that Windows firewall is
> present. Zone Alarm, Kerio whatever is an additional issue that may
> have to be dealt with.
>
> I have not had any trouble setting up ports, exceptions etc in
> Windows. Most programs do it automatically.
>
> *In sum, the "expert" comments the Windows Firewall is mostly derided
> for being one-way.
> In fact keeping intruders out is what we NEED and keeping intruders IN
> is a stop-gap at best. At that point, you are already in trouble.
> Closing the barn-door and all that.
>
> I do use Win-Patrol as a general system watchdog as well. Keeps you
> informed on things that are trying to change your system. I find it
> easier for novices to manage than the firewalls.
>
> Have about a dozen pcs on Window firewall and no problems for years.
>
> Steve

Called "blind luck"? Which I can't rely on for the 9-5 stuff. I've
often seen
compelling reasons for 2-way firewalls at work, both on individual
machines,
and (no-brainer here) on gateway router. New attacks take place
constantly.

I like to assess my own needs, thanks.

John

John

"seaweedsteve" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On May 20, 9:40 pm, b...@sme-online.com wrote:
>> On May 20, 8:33 pm, Jeff Liebermann <j...@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Pen <pen34usnos...@hotmailnospam.com> hath wroth:
>>
>> > >Rick.Pearl wrote:
>> > >> How do I enable the built in XP Firewall while surfing wirelessly? I
>> > >> have SP 2 installed. I am a mac user so I am not clear on this.
>>
>> > >> Thank you.
>>
>> > >start\settings\control panel\security center\
>>
>> > Start -> Settings -> Control Panel -> Windoze Firewall
>> > Check the box "Enable firewall".
>>
>> > Then go to the Exceptions tab and make sure that Windoze File and
>> > Print Sharing are NOT checked as an exception. There may be some
>> > other services of dubious value that don't need to be accepting
>> > incoming connections. If you're not sure, check the box "Don't allow
>> > exceptions" on the first page where you enabled the firewall.
>>
>> > --
>> > Jeff Liebermann j...@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
>> > 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
>> > Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com
>> > Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
>>
>> Or, mo-betta IMHO, go tohttp://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/,
>> download and install. Comodo firewall is 2-way (incoming/outgoing),
>> and can be readily instructed on the fly as to what to block/pass.
>>
>> Of course, if using Comodo's, disable Windows firewall. And be
>> fussy as to what to allow. Sometimes, just getting notice of what
>> process is trying to send outgoing traffic is very informative.
>>
>> It does help to understand what the significance of ports is.
>>
>> J- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> After reading an informative essay by a security expert* on why
> Windows firewall DOES work, I'm now recommending to only use it. Why?
> because the others have more overhead, cause constant confusion about
> what to accept, because Windows FW is already there and works with
> most everything.
>
> Most any software you install will consider that Windows firewall is
> present. Zone Alarm, Kerio whatever is an additional issue that may
> have to be dealt with.
>
> I have not had any trouble setting up ports, exceptions etc in
> Windows. Most programs do it automatically.
>
> *In sum, the "expert" comments the Windows Firewall is mostly derided
> for being one-way.
> In fact keeping intruders out is what we NEED and keeping intruders IN
> is a stop-gap at best. At that point, you are already in trouble.
> Closing the barn-door and all that.
>
> I do use Win-Patrol as a general system watchdog as well. Keeps you
> informed on things that are trying to change your system. I find it
> easier for novices to manage than the firewalls.
>
> Have about a dozen pcs on Window firewall and no problems for years.
>
> Steve
>
>

With all due respect.
Wow, that's a first. Are you Bill Gates? Whenever, anyone calls me and
says "my network won't communicate" the first answer is "turn off Windows
Firewall". When they call and say my messenger service won't work, I say
"turn off ......" Need I go on with the list of port dependent services
that the firewall blocks. This would be okay if the firewall asked you if
this traffic should be allowed, as does Kerio, Zonealarm.....

Norton/McAfee are hogs. I would rather have a virus.

With regards to Winpatrol. You are confusing an outgoing firewall with a
program that will monitor modifications to startup directories, registry,
changes in services, and a host of other changes of the system. It does not
offer any outgoing port protection. Maybe I'm mistaken but after using
Winpatrol for the last couple of years, I have yet to have a warning about
outgoing packets.

One last point. The "expert" would not like Windows Vista. It has a
firewall that monitors both incoming and outgoing. Why would MS change when
they already had a system that believed "keeping intruders out is what we
NEED". I think that you need to find a new "expert".

Dave H.

> One last point. The "expert" would not like Windows Vista. It has a
> firewall that monitors both incoming and outgoing. Why would MS change
> when they already had a system that believed "keeping intruders out is
> what we NEED". I think that you need to find a new "expert".

I use Vista's FW and I don't have a problem in using it. It does what it's
suppose to do, which stop unsolicited inbound traffic.

Even XP's FW is not as intrusive with a bunch of snake-oil junk in them
trying to protect one from them self. All one has to do with some of the
other PFW(s) is mis-configure that snake-oil in them and watch things not
work anymore that use to work.

I like to supplement the Vista FW with IPsec that runs in conjunction with
the Vista FW. I use IPsec to block outbound traffic if I need to stop
outbound traffic to a remote IP, which IPsec can stop inbound or outbound
traffic by port, protocol, IP and subnet.

http://www.petri.co.il/block_ping_tr...with_ipsec.htm

I implemented the AnalogX rules and made my adjustments.

http://www.analogx.com/CONTENTS/articles/ipsec.htm
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813878
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...y/ipsecld.mspx

This is for a laptop that has a direct connection to the modem and therefore
a direct connection to the Internet, nothing such as a router or FW
appliance between the modem and the computer, which is running things like
IIS and SQL Server, etc, etc, while working programming contracts on the
road.

I also use CurrPort to see for myself what's making inbound and outbound
connections.

http://www.bestvistadownloads.com/so...-gxdgtprq.html

I also use other tools to go look for myself instead of depending upon that
snake-oil solutions in 3rd party PFW(s) to tell me what is happening on my
machine.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/klw1

They also have this for Vista, which I don't need it.


http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/fil...scription.html

When the laptop is on my home network behind the FW appliance ,PFW(s) are
disabled on all machines, even the Linux machine.

I guess it's all about who is behind the wheel and driving.

On May 21, 6:09�pm, "DH" <xxxdav...@swbell.net(axe the x's)> wrote:
> "seaweedsteve" <seaweedst...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:(E-Mail Removed) oups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 20, 9:40 pm, b...@sme-online.com wrote:
> >> On May 20, 8:33 pm, Jeff Liebermann <j...@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > Pen <pen34usnos...@hotmailnospam.com> hath wroth:
>
> >> > >Rick.Pearl wrote:
> >> > >> How do I enable the built in XP Firewall while surfing wirelessly? I
> >> > >> have SP 2 installed. I am a mac user so I am not clear on this.
>
> >> > >> Thank you.
>
> >> > >start\settings\control panel\security center\
>
> >> > Start -> Settings -> Control Panel -> Windoze Firewall
> >> > Check the box "Enable firewall".
>
> >> > Then go to the Exceptions tab and make sure that Windoze File and
> >> > Print Sharing are NOT checked as an exception. *There may be some
> >> > other services of dubious value that don't need to be accepting
> >> > incoming connections. *If you're not sure, check the box "Don't allow
> >> > exceptions" on the first page where you enabled the firewall.
>
> >> > --
> >> > Jeff Liebermann * * j...@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
> >> > 150 Felker St #D * *http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> >> > Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com
> >> > Skype: JeffLiebermann * * AE6KS * *831-336-2558
>
> >> Or, mo-betta IMHO, go tohttp://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/,
> >> download and install. Comodo firewall is 2-way (incoming/outgoing),
> >> and can be readily instructed on the fly as to what to block/pass.
>
> >> Of course, if using Comodo's, disable Windows firewall. And be
> >> fussy as to what to allow. Sometimes, just getting notice of what
> >> process is trying to send outgoing traffic is very informative.
>
> >> It does help to understand what the significance of ports is.
>
> >> J- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > After reading an informative essay by a security expert* on why
> > Windows firewall DOES work, I'm now recommending to only use it. *Why?
> > because the others have more overhead, cause constant confusion about
> > what to accept, because Windows FW is already there and works with
> > most everything.
>
> > Most any software you install will consider that Windows firewall is
> > present. *Zone Alarm, Kerio whatever is an additional issue that may
> > have to be dealt with.
>
> > I have not had any trouble setting up ports, exceptions etc in
> > Windows. Most programs do it automatically.
>
> > *In sum, the "expert" comments the Windows Firewall is mostly derided
> > for being one-way.
> > In fact keeping intruders out is what we NEED and keeping intruders IN
> > is a stop-gap at best. *At that point, you are already in trouble.
> > Closing the barn-door and all that.
>
> > I do use Win-Patrol as a general system watchdog as well. Keeps you
> > informed on things that are trying to change your system. *I find it
> > easier for novices to manage than the firewalls.
>
> > Have about a dozen pcs on Window firewall and no problems for years.
>
> > Steve
>
> With all due respect.
> Wow, that's a first. *Are you Bill Gates? *Whenever, anyone calls me and
> says "my network won't communicate" the first answer is "turn off Windows
> Firewall". *When they call and say my messenger service won't work, I say
> "turn off ......" *Need I go on with the list of port dependent services
> that the firewall blocks. *This would be okay if the firewall asked youif
> this traffic should be allowed, as does Kerio, Zonealarm.....
>
> Norton/McAfee are hogs. *I would rather have a virus.
>
> With regards toWinpatrol. *You are confusing an outgoing firewall with a
> program that will monitor modifications to startup directories, registry,
> changes in services, and a host of other changes of the system. *It does not
> offer any outgoing port protection. *Maybe I'm mistaken but after usingWinpatrolfor the last couple of years, I have yet to have a warning about
> outgoing packets.
>
> One last point. *The "expert" would not like Windows Vista. *It has a
> firewall that monitors both incoming and outgoing. *Why would MS changewhen
> they already had a system that believed "keeping intruders out is what we
> NEED". *I think that you need to find a new "expert".
>
> Dave H.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yup, WinPatrol doesn't act as a firewall to monitor network packets.
It's also why WinPatrol is compatible with all versions of Windows
and shouldn't slow you down.
I would recommend using a firewall of some kind too

Bill Pytlovany
BillP Studios