Firewall help

If you have a well configured hardware firewall is a software firewall
necessary?
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
KerplunKuK <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> If you have a well configured hardware firewall is a software firewall
> necessary?
> Thanks

I wish I had a pound for every time this has ben asked!

The answer is a resounding *yes*. A hardware firewall will help to stop
nasties from getting in to your system, but it won't stop rogue applications
(Trojans etc.) from connecting to the internet and sending all your private
information to all sorts of undesirable places. A software firewall such as
ZoneAlarm will know (after you've configured it) which bone fide
applications are allowed to access the internet, and will warn you if
anything else tries to do so - and will prevent it from doing so unless you
authorise it.
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Tiscali Tim wrote:
>
>>If you have a well configured hardware firewall is a software firewall
>>necessary?
>>Thanks
>
>
> I wish I had a pound for every time this has ben asked!
>
> The answer is a resounding *yes*. A hardware firewall will help to stop
> nasties from getting in to your system, but it won't stop rogue applications
> (Trojans etc.) from connecting to the internet and sending all your private
> information to all sorts of undesirable places. A software firewall such as
> ZoneAlarm will know (after you've configured it) which bone fide
> applications are allowed to access the internet, and will warn you if
> anything else tries to do so - and will prevent it from doing so unless you
> authorise it.

This only applies if you have the misfortune to be using Windows.

Real operating systems don't have this problem.

Paul

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Paul Russell <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Tiscali Tim wrote:
>>
>>> If you have a well configured hardware firewall is a software
>>> firewall necessary?
>>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> I wish I had a pound for every time this has ben asked!
>>
>> The answer is a resounding *yes*. A hardware firewall will help to
>> stop nasties from getting in to your system, but it won't stop rogue
>> applications (Trojans etc.) from connecting to the internet and
>> sending all your private information to all sorts of undesirable
>> places. A software firewall such as ZoneAlarm will know (after
>> you've configured it) which bone fide applications are allowed to
>> access the internet, and will warn you if anything else tries to do
>> so - and will prevent it from doing so unless you authorise it.
>
> This only applies if you have the misfortune to be using Windows.
>
> Real operating systems don't have this problem.
>
> Paul

As far as I can remember, the OP didn't say what OS was being used.

Why don't other OS's suffer this problem? Can't anyone be bothered to create
Trojans which run on them?

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Thanks, I am using Win XP and Mac OSX. Is there a list anywhere of software
firewall compatibility with routers, or is it a try it and see job?

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> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> KerplunKuK <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > If you have a well configured hardware firewall is a software firewall
> > necessary?
> > Thanks
>
> I wish I had a pound for every time this has ben asked!
>
> The answer is a resounding *yes*. A hardware firewall will help to stop
> nasties from getting in to your system, but it won't stop rogue
applications
> (Trojans etc.) from connecting to the internet and sending all your
private
> information to all sorts of undesirable places. A software firewall such
as
> ZoneAlarm will know (after you've configured it) which bone fide
> applications are allowed to access the internet, and will warn you if
> anything else tries to do so - and will prevent it from doing so unless
you
> authorise it.
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> Cheers,
> Tim
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On 12 Oct 2004 in uk.telecom.broadband, "KerplunKuK" wrote:

>If you have a well configured hardware firewall is a software firewall
>necessary?

It surely depends on whether youhave one or more systems on your (LAN)
side of the hardware firewall... While any worm or virus is stopped in
its tracks from reaching your ISP (on the assumption something one day
gets in), will it spread unchecked to the rest of your kit, and be very
much unnoticed ? I am happy to suggest a firewall for every system, as
it could alert the user to something odd going on with theirs...

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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
KerplunKuK <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Thanks, I am using Win XP and Mac OSX. Is there a list anywhere of
> software firewall compatibility with routers, or is it a try it and
> see job?
>
I'm not aware on any specific compatibility issues - after all, the software
firewall runs in your computer(s) - quite separate from the routers**. The
SP2 version of Win XP has a firewall of sorts, but many people still think
that ZoneAlarm (even the free version!) is better.

Sorry, I'm not competent to comment on software firewalls for Mac operating
systems.

** For while, before I bought an ADSL router/modem, I was using an old W98
PC as a router by running WinRoute software in it. I couldn't make this work
at the same time as running ZoneAlarm in this particular computer - but the
other computers in my network (with which the router PC was sharing the
internet connection) were fine with ZoneAlarm.
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 17:03:00 +0100, "Tiscali Tim" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
>Paul Russell <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Tiscali Tim wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you have a well configured hardware firewall is a software
>>>> firewall necessary?
>>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> I wish I had a pound for every time this has ben asked!
>>>
>>> The answer is a resounding *yes*. A hardware firewall will help to
>>> stop nasties from getting in to your system, but it won't stop rogue
>>> applications (Trojans etc.) from connecting to the internet and
>>> sending all your private information to all sorts of undesirable
>>> places. A software firewall such as ZoneAlarm will know (after
>>> you've configured it) which bone fide applications are allowed to
>>> access the internet, and will warn you if anything else tries to do
>>> so - and will prevent it from doing so unless you authorise it.
>>
>> This only applies if you have the misfortune to be using Windows.
>>
>> Real operating systems don't have this problem.
>>
>> Paul
>
>As far as I can remember, the OP didn't say what OS was being used.
>
>Why don't other OS's suffer this problem? Can't anyone be bothered to create
>Trojans which run on them?

Correct.

And that is the only reason other OS's don't have that problem.

And it isn't as absolute as the previous poster suggested anyhow.
There are fewer such programs for other OS's , but not none, for most
of them.
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 17:10:01 +0100, "KerplunKuK"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Thanks, I am using Win XP and Mac OSX. Is there a list anywhere of software
>firewall compatibility with routers, or is it a try it and see job?

I doubt very much if there is such a list, because there shouldn't be
an issue.
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KerplunKuK wrote:

> Thanks, I am using Win XP and Mac OSX. Is there a list anywhere of software
> firewall compatibility with routers, or is it a try it and see job?
>

For Mac OS X you already have ipfw built-in. No fuss no muss, just one
click and you're all set.

For Win XP you definitely need a software firewall, e.g. ZoneAlarm.
Recently I set up a brand new XP box with a static IP address and no
firewall and it was "owned" within about an hour. Bloody Micro$oft -
what a shower.

Paul