Finding wireless access points.

Can anyone direct me to some good info on finding wireless access points?

I don't mean simply being able to connect to them, but actually finding the
building and room that the signal is coming from.

How do you track down the physical location of the wireless access point
device that you can detect using netstumbler or other such software?

Thanks!

jim

> How do you track down the physical location of the wireless access
> point device that you can detect using netstumbler ...

One list is at http://www.netstumbler.com/hotspots/

"jim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Can anyone direct me to some good info on finding wireless access points?
>
> I don't mean simply being able to connect to them, but actually finding
> the building and room that the signal is coming from.
>
> How do you track down the physical location of the wireless access point
> device that you can detect using netstumbler or other such software?
>
> Thanks!
>
> jim
>
yeah right -
you mean just like on TV - CSI, NCIS, or Numbers ??

On May 28, 7:11*pm, MyVeryOwnSelf <s...@emailNot.nul> wrote:
> > How do you track down the physical location of the wireless access
> > point device that you can detect using netstumbler ...
>
> One list is athttp://www.netstumbler.com/hotspots/

To add to this:

Add one GPS compatible with Netstumbler and start "scanning."

Hi
May be this can Help., http://www.passmark.com/products/wirelessmonitor.htm
Jack (MVP-Networking).

"jim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Can anyone direct me to some good info on finding wireless access points?
>
> I don't mean simply being able to connect to them, but actually finding
> the building and room that the signal is coming from.
>
> How do you track down the physical location of the wireless access point
> device that you can detect using netstumbler or other such software?
>
> Thanks!
>
> jim
>

On Wed, 28 May 2008 18:52:46 -0400, "jim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Can anyone direct me to some good info on finding wireless access points?

Search Google for "wi-fi direction finding".

I've also posted some comments on the subject:
<http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=direction+finding+map+lines&num=50&sco ring=r&hl=en&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=alt.i nternet.wireless&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=Jeff+Lie bermann&lr=lang_en&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_ minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=28&as_maxm=5&as_maxy=2 008&safe=off>

This one covers the basics:
<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.internet.wireless/msg/8998c66ef1df00f7>
Note that it does take some practice. I suggest you try finding a
known access point first. Also, be prepared to answer dumb questions
from the police and officials. To the clueless, you will probably
look like a terrorist.

>I don't mean simply being able to connect to them, but actually finding the
>building and room that the signal is coming from.

Yeah. That's called "radio direction finding".

>How do you track down the physical location of the wireless access point
>device that you can detect using netstumbler or other such software?

See above URL.

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> On Wed, 28 May 2008 18:52:46 -0400, "jim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Can anyone direct me to some good info on finding wireless access points?
>
> Search Google for "wi-fi direction finding".

Thanks for that. Searching for the proper terms does seem to enhance the
result set returned by Google.

>
> I've also posted some comments on the subject:
> <http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=direction+finding+map+lines&num=50&sco ring=r&hl=en&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=alt.i nternet.wireless&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=Jeff+Lie bermann&lr=lang_en&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_ minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=28&as_maxm=5&as_maxy=2 008&safe=off>
>

Great suggestions!

> This one covers the basics:
> <http://groups.google.com/group/alt.internet.wireless/msg/8998c66ef1df00f7>
> Note that it does take some practice. I suggest you try finding a
> known access point first. Also, be prepared to answer dumb questions
> from the police and officials. To the clueless, you will probably
> look like a terrorist.

LOL! I actually got pulled over about 1 this morning while war driving and
testing out my cantenna setup. It was a riot! They wanted to know what
"that gun looking thing" was...(it was my new cantenna with a pistol grip).

They did ask me to please do it during daylight hours (they said they have
been having problems with some burglaries and such). But, my slowly
cruising the 'hoods and jamming up traffic during the day will certainly
piss them off too. I'll just remind them that it was their idea - not mine.

War driving is addictive. I did it for 3-4hours and found approx 600
wireless access points. About 30% have no protection whatsoever. About 50%
have WEP (really no security wahtsoever). And the other 20% have WPA+.

>
>>I don't mean simply being able to connect to them, but actually finding
>>the
>>building and room that the signal is coming from.
>
> Yeah. That's called "radio direction finding".

Sweet.

>
>>How do you track down the physical location of the wireless access point
>>device that you can detect using netstumbler or other such software?

I'm using WirelessMon right now. It is pretty good. I use the RSSI values
to home in on a signal. Then, I realize I am chasing a reflection and go on
the opposit direction (lol).

I am considering a 3 cantenna setup where the left and right cantennas are
offset by -45 degrees and + 45 degrees. I'll need software that can watch 3
antennaes simultaneously - which means I may have to write it (or pay
someone to write it) - but it may be worth the trouble.

Thanks so much for your help!

P.S. I added a green laser pointer to my setup to help locate wireless
access points from outside multi-floored buildings. Don't know if it'll
help much, but it looks cool.

jim

That's just what I am using. Netstumbler did not work with my Sony laptop +
Vista.

jim

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> Hi
> May be this can Help.,
> http://www.passmark.com/products/wirelessmonitor.htm
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "jim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> Can anyone direct me to some good info on finding wireless access points?
>>
>> I don't mean simply being able to connect to them, but actually finding
>> the building and room that the signal is coming from.
>>
>> How do you track down the physical location of the wireless access point
>> device that you can detect using netstumbler or other such software?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> jim
>>
>

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> "jim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> Can anyone direct me to some good info on finding wireless access points?
>>
>> I don't mean simply being able to connect to them, but actually finding
>> the building and room that the signal is coming from.
>>
>> How do you track down the physical location of the wireless access point
>> device that you can detect using netstumbler or other such software?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> jim
>>
> yeah right -
> you mean just like on TV - CSI, NCIS, or Numbers ??

I have no idea what you are talking about. I have never seen any of those
shows - too busy working.

jim

jim wrote:

> War driving is addictive. I did it for 3-4hours and found approx 600
> wireless access points. About 30% have no protection whatsoever. About 50%
> have WEP (really no security wahtsoever). And the other 20% have WPA+.
>
If it has become addictive you may be interested in Wigle.
http://www.wigle.net/