Filtered Faceplate

I intend to fit a xte-2005 filtered faceplate from Ad-sl Nation to the
main telephone socket which is situated in the hallway and then
connect my router to same with a pro plus RJ11 cable.

The router is situated in a room above the hallway and routing this
cable is my concern,I have central heating pipes boxed leading up from
the hall to the room and could thread it through there or go through
the outside wall go up the outside wall and into the room that way.

The advice I am seeking is, would the heat from the central heating
affect the cable bearing in mind it may be toughing it. Is Rj11 cable
suitable for outside it would be about 2 mtres also what is the
recomended maximum length of this cable.

Any advice on the above would greatly appreciated

Walter

> Any advice on the above would greatly appreciated

I had a significant improvement in sync speed when I
moved my router from upstairs to next to the NTE5
(keeping the PSU away from the router) then running
CAT5 (used twin RJ45 CAT5 faceplates in surface
boxes).
CAT5 cable is pretty heat resistant.
If you buy RJ11 cable you will need a hole big
enough to pass the plug through if you go the
outside route.
If it's to be a long RJ11 cable then ideally it should
be twisted pair, many aren't.
Don't run an RJ11 lead alongside mains leads,
to avoid noise pickup (heating pipes should be
ok). If you use fluorescent or low energy bulbs
they can be a bit electrically noisy. Hence
my putting my router next to the NTE5.
If you go with RJ11 perhaps you could improvise
some spacers to prevent direct contact with the
pipes.
CAT5 faceplates are IDC you need the tool and
it is a bit of a learning curve, I Tywrapped using
small Tywraps, before doing the IDC bit,
connections are on the internet and in my case
colour coded on the sockets.

>I intend to fit a xte-2005 filtered faceplate from Ad-sl Nation to the
> main telephone socket which is situated in the hallway and then
> connect my router to same with a pro plus RJ11 cable.
>
> The router is situated in a room above the hallway and routing this
> cable is my concern,I have central heating pipes boxed leading up from
> the hall to the room and could thread it through there or go through
> the outside wall go up the outside wall and into the room that way.
>
> The advice I am seeking is, would the heat from the central heating
> affect the cable bearing in mind it may be toughing it. Is Rj11 cable
> suitable for outside it would be about 2 mtres also what is the
> recomended maximum length of this cable.


Ordinary cables are not suitable for exterior use because they degrade with
exposure to UV etc. It would not be a good idea to put it in the same duct
as hot pipes.

Peter Crosland

"Walter" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I intend to fit a xte-2005 filtered faceplate from Ad-sl Nation to the
> main telephone socket which is situated in the hallway and then
> connect my router to same with a pro plus RJ11 cable.

If I were you I would fit the new faceplate first and test the router
temporarily at the new socket to see if you see any improvement. Its not
guaranteed to improve anything. It didn't for me........(even with an ADSL
Nation filtered socket)

> If I were you I would fit the new faceplate first and test the router
> temporarily at the new socket to see if you see any improvement. Its not
> guaranteed to improve anything. It didn't for me........(even with an
> ADSL
> Nation filtered socket)

And if it doesn't you can, if you are quick, claim a refund under
the distance selling regulations.

Peter Crosland wrote:
>> I intend to fit a xte-2005 filtered faceplate from Ad-sl Nation to
>> the main telephone socket which is situated in the hallway and then
>> connect my router to same with a pro plus RJ11 cable.
>>
>> The router is situated in a room above the hallway and routing this
>> cable is my concern,I have central heating pipes boxed leading up
>> from the hall to the room and could thread it through there or go
>> through the outside wall go up the outside wall and into the room
>> that way. The advice I am seeking is, would the heat from the central
>> heating
>> affect the cable bearing in mind it may be toughing it. Is Rj11 cable
>> suitable for outside it would be about 2 mtres also what is the
>> recomended maximum length of this cable.
>
>
> Ordinary cables are not suitable for exterior use because they
> degrade with exposure to UV etc.

This is a popular belief but the back of my house faces south and so gets
the sun (ha - what sun I hear you ask )) almost all day. About 20 years
ago, I ran a length of standard, grey, 1.0mm twin & earth cable to an
outside light and about every four or five years I unclip the cable, paint
the woodwork that it's clipped to, and then reclip it. Last time I did this
was two years ago and so far it has suffered no degredation whatsoever -
it's not brittle, cracked or even faded too much, although I admit that one
reason why I do unclip rather than just paint the cable is to check for
adverse effects.

About 15 years ago, my next-door neighbour asked me to run a telephone
extension for him and the only route available (he didn't want any mess on
the inside) was to run it along the outside, on his south-facing wall - and
all I had was standard white 6-wire which he was more than happy with. That
also is still in perfect working order today and is suffering no ill effects
such as brittleness.

John

John wrote:
> Peter Crosland wrote:
>>> I intend to fit a xte-2005 filtered faceplate from Ad-sl Nation to
>>> the main telephone socket which is situated in the hallway and
>>> then connect my router to same with a pro plus RJ11 cable.
>>>
>>> The router is situated in a room above the hallway and routing
>>> this cable is my concern,I have central heating pipes boxed
>>> leading up from the hall to the room and could thread it through
>>> there or go through the outside wall go up the outside wall and
>>> into the room that way. The advice I am seeking is, would the
>>> heat from the central heating
>>> affect the cable bearing in mind it may be toughing it. Is Rj11
>>> cable suitable for outside it would be about 2 mtres also what is
>>> the recomended maximum length of this cable.
>>
>>
>> Ordinary cables are not suitable for exterior use because they
>> degrade with exposure to UV etc.
>
> This is a popular belief but the back of my house faces south and
> so gets the sun (ha - what sun I hear you ask )) almost all day.
> About 20 years ago, I ran a length of standard, grey, 1.0mm twin &
> earth cable to an outside light and about every four or five years
> I unclip the cable, paint the woodwork that it's clipped to, and
> then reclip it. Last time I did this was two years ago and so far
> it has suffered no degredation whatsoever - it's not brittle,
> cracked or even faded too much, although I admit that one reason
> why I do unclip rather than just paint the cable is to check for
> adverse effects.
> About 15 years ago, my next-door neighbour asked me to run a
> telephone extension for him and the only route available (he didn't
> want any mess on the inside) was to run it along the outside, on
> his south-facing wall - and all I had was standard white 6-wire
> which he was more than happy with. That also is still in perfect
> working order today and is suffering no ill effects such as
> brittleness.
> John

I've got to say that either you are very lucky or you have a different
sunshine to us in the midlands as I've known internal cable to go brittle
within 3-4 years of it being put in place..

On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:19:28 +0000, ato_zee passed an empty day by
writing:

>> If I were you I would fit the new faceplate first and test the router
>> temporarily at the new socket to see if you see any improvement. Its
>> not guaranteed to improve anything. It didn't for me........(even with
>> an ADSL
>> Nation filtered socket)
>
> And if it doesn't you can, if you are quick, claim a refund under the
> distance selling regulations.

Why? They are selling you a filter that removes DSL noise from PSTN. Why
does that qualify the buyer for a refund if it is fit for the purpose for
which it has been sold?

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> > And if it doesn't you can, if you are quick, claim a refund under the
> > distance selling regulations.
>
> Why? They are selling you a filter that removes DSL noise from PSTN. Why
> does that qualify the buyer for
> a refund if it is fit for the purpose for
> which it has been sold?

Because it claims that it should improve BB sync speed, if it
doesn't do that for the purchaser it fails that test.
There is a BT SIN Suppliers Information Note and ITU specs
for ADSL filters, with many unproven claims that proprietry
filters are better.It's a bit like vitamin supplements, many
unproven claims.
It will only improve things if the noise source is from within
the customers premises, this is not the case for most
of us, therefore the standard ITU spec filter is perfectly
adequate, and some of the claims for proprietry filters
are "Snake Oil".
If it works for you fine, if it doesn't you should be able to
return it.

>> > And if it doesn't you can, if you are quick, claim a refund under the
>> > distance selling regulations.
>>
>> Why? They are selling you a filter that removes DSL noise from PSTN. Why
>> does that qualify the buyer for
>> a refund if it is fit for the purpose for
>> which it has been sold?
>
> Because it claims that it should improve BB sync speed, if it
> doesn't do that for the purchaser it fails that test.
> There is a BT SIN Suppliers Information Note and ITU specs
> for ADSL filters, with many unproven claims that proprietry
> filters are better.It's a bit like vitamin supplements, many
> unproven claims.
> It will only improve things if the noise source is from within
> the customers premises, this is not the case for most
> of us, therefore the standard ITU spec filter is perfectly
> adequate, and some of the claims for proprietry filters
> are "Snake Oil".
> If it works for you fine, if it doesn't you should be able to
> return it.

If the item is defective then the DSR's are not the appropriate reason for
returning it. Ordinary Sale of Goods legislation applies i.e. fitness for
purpose. In any case has the supplier made claims that state the filters
will definitely improve matters?

Peter Crosland