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Luke
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      09-23-2004, 09:24 PM
I'm hoping someone can help me. I just installed Fedora Core 2 on a system
that was running Red Hat 9. The problem is that I can't get on my LAN. The
NIC is a Intel Ethernet Pro 100. Here's what I've tried:

1. cable and NIC adapter are ok (ran fine under Red Hat 9)
2. lspci -v shows "Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro
100]
Subsystem: Intel Corp. 82559 Fast Ethernet LAN on
Motherboard"
3. I tried both a DHCP setup and a static IP. I used the Network device
control app under System Tools. I have the gateway and netmask setup
correctly
4. ifconfig shows that everything is setup on eth0, buth there is no data
moving RX bytes = 0 and TX bytes = 0
5. Ran ethereal on another system on the same hub as the Fedora box. It
showed that ARP packets from the Fedora box were being sent and received
6. I can ping the loopback adapter and when assigned a static IP I can ping
the Fedora box from the Fedora box
7 Here's the output from route:
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use
Iface
10.1.249.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0
0 eth0
169.254.0.0 * 255.255.0.0 U 0 0
0 eth0
127.0.0.1 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0
0 lo
default * 0.0.0.0 UG 0
0 0 eth0

The only conclusion I've left with is that the Fedora box Network stack is
somehow disconnected from Ethernet adapter. Any help would be greatly
appreciated. Thanks.


 
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joy
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      09-24-2004, 02:49 PM
Luke wrote:
> I'm hoping someone can help me. I just installed Fedora Core 2 on a system
> that was running Red Hat 9. The problem is that I can't get on my LAN. The
> NIC is a Intel Ethernet Pro 100. Here's what I've tried:
>
> 1. cable and NIC adapter are ok (ran fine under Red Hat 9)
> 2. lspci -v shows "Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro
> 100]
> Subsystem: Intel Corp. 82559 Fast Ethernet LAN on
> Motherboard"
> 3. I tried both a DHCP setup and a static IP. I used the Network device
> control app under System Tools. I have the gateway and netmask setup
> correctly
> 4. ifconfig shows that everything is setup on eth0, buth there is no data
> moving RX bytes = 0 and TX bytes = 0
> 5. Ran ethereal on another system on the same hub as the Fedora box. It
> showed that ARP packets from the Fedora box were being sent and received
> 6. I can ping the loopback adapter and when assigned a static IP I can ping
> the Fedora box from the Fedora box
> 7 Here's the output from route:
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use
> Iface
> 10.1.249.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0
> 0 eth0
> 169.254.0.0 * 255.255.0.0 U 0 0
> 0 eth0
>

why you have 10.1.249 and 169.254.0.0 network?

joy


 
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P Gentry
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      09-24-2004, 03:40 PM
"Luke" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<waH4d.143221$3l3.126954@attbi_s03>...
> I'm hoping someone can help me. I just installed Fedora Core 2 on a system
> that was running Red Hat 9. The problem is that I can't get on my LAN. The
> NIC is a Intel Ethernet Pro 100. Here's what I've tried:
>
> 1. cable and NIC adapter are ok (ran fine under Red Hat 9)
> 2. lspci -v shows "Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro
> 100]
> Subsystem: Intel Corp. 82559 Fast Ethernet LAN on
> Motherboard"
> 3. I tried both a DHCP setup and a static IP. I used the Network device
> control app under System Tools. I have the gateway and netmask setup
> correctly


If dhcp is available (from ISP?) then you are likely in a subneted
environment and will have a GW IP address for default routes -- see
below.

> 4. ifconfig shows that everything is setup on eth0, buth there is no data
> moving RX bytes = 0 and TX bytes = 0


Probably not needed, but it's always handy to provide ifconfig output.
Command/data output is _always_ preferred to descriptions of the
output.

> 5. Ran ethereal on another system on the same hub as the Fedora box. It
> showed that ARP packets from the Fedora box were being sent and received


Did you run ethereal on the "problem" host? "arp -v"? "netstat -rc"?

> 6. I can ping the loopback adapter and when assigned a static IP I can ping
> the Fedora box from the Fedora box


Good ...

> 7 Here's the output from route:
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use
> Iface
> 10.1.249.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0
> 0 eth0
> 169.254.0.0 * 255.255.0.0 U 0 0
> 0 eth0
> 127.0.0.1 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0
> 0 lo
> default * 0.0.0.0 UG 0
> 0 0 eth0
>
> The only conclusion I've left with is that the Fedora box Network stack is
> somehow disconnected from Ethernet adapter. Any help would be greatly
> appreciated. Thanks.


Note the entry for your default route -- there is no gw IP, which
pretty much makes this entry useless and problematic.

Presumably this host sits on the 10.1.249.0 subnet and should be using
a gw on that subnet to route packets beyond the local subnet
(typically 10.1.249.1 or sometimes 10.1.249.254).

If this is strictly a local, private lan made of a single segment,
hosts connected via a hub/switch, then you don't really need a gw as
arp will find the proper mac addresses for the other hosts (since it
appears you've not turned off arp).

If your lan is segmented (ie., employs a router between segments) then
you probably want a default gw (and its IP).

If you wish to restrict this host to "local" traffic, then you don't
need a default route.

If you have a router facing the internet you will have to provide a gw
IP to move traffic for this host.

If you don't need a default route, get rid of the entry. If you need
a default route, provide a gw IP so that the packets (actually the
ethernet frames) are properly addressed.

hth,
prg
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      09-25-2004, 11:28 AM
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In comp.os.linux.setup joy <joy79a_nospam_@libero.it> suggested:
> Luke wrote:

[..]

>> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use
>> Iface
>> 10.1.249.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0
>> 0 eth0
>> 169.254.0.0 * 255.255.0.0 U 0 0
>> 0 eth0
>>

> why you have 10.1.249 and 169.254.0.0 network?


169.254.0.0 was probably setup by his distro, see RFC-3330 for
details, nothing to worry about. 10.1.249 might be his LAN, we
don't know. The problem should be as someone else already pointed
out the missing gateway IP for the default route.

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Nico Kadel-Garcia
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      09-25-2004, 11:41 AM

"Michael Heiming" <michael+(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In comp.os.linux.setup joy <joy79a_nospam_@libero.it> suggested:
> > Luke wrote:

> [..]
>
> >> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref

Use
> >> Iface
> >> 10.1.249.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0
> >> 0 eth0
> >> 169.254.0.0 * 255.255.0.0 U 0

0
> >> 0 eth0
> >>

> > why you have 10.1.249 and 169.254.0.0 network?

>
> 169.254.0.0 was probably setup by his distro, see RFC-3330 for
> details, nothing to worry about. 10.1.249 might be his LAN, we
> don't know. The problem should be as someone else already pointed
> out the missing gateway IP for the default route.


169.254.x.x are default IP addresses for router cards when they first are
powered up and haven't been set with DHCP or other network configuration
tools. Most of us just ignore that.


 
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chris@nospam.com
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      09-26-2004, 05:16 AM



What he said, plus verify you don't have IPTables running.

(Yeah I know that techincally it's part of the kernel and alway
running even if the ruleset is blank)

-Chris


On 24 Sep 2004 08:40:28 -0700, (E-Mail Removed) (P Gentry)
wrote:

>"Luke" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<waH4d.143221$3l3.126954@attbi_s03>...
>> I'm hoping someone can help me. I just installed Fedora Core 2 on a system
>> that was running Red Hat 9. The problem is that I can't get on my LAN. The
>> NIC is a Intel Ethernet Pro 100. Here's what I've tried:
>>
>> 1. cable and NIC adapter are ok (ran fine under Red Hat 9)
>> 2. lspci -v shows "Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro
>> 100]
>> Subsystem: Intel Corp. 82559 Fast Ethernet LAN on
>> Motherboard"
>> 3. I tried both a DHCP setup and a static IP. I used the Network device
>> control app under System Tools. I have the gateway and netmask setup
>> correctly

>
>If dhcp is available (from ISP?) then you are likely in a subneted
>environment and will have a GW IP address for default routes -- see
>below.
>
>> 4. ifconfig shows that everything is setup on eth0, buth there is no data
>> moving RX bytes = 0 and TX bytes = 0

>
>Probably not needed, but it's always handy to provide ifconfig output.
> Command/data output is _always_ preferred to descriptions of the
>output.
>
>> 5. Ran ethereal on another system on the same hub as the Fedora box. It
>> showed that ARP packets from the Fedora box were being sent and received

>
>Did you run ethereal on the "problem" host? "arp -v"? "netstat -rc"?
>
>> 6. I can ping the loopback adapter and when assigned a static IP I can ping
>> the Fedora box from the Fedora box

>
>Good ...
>
>> 7 Here's the output from route:
>> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use
>> Iface
>> 10.1.249.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0
>> 0 eth0
>> 169.254.0.0 * 255.255.0.0 U 0 0
>> 0 eth0
>> 127.0.0.1 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0
>> 0 lo
>> default * 0.0.0.0 UG 0
>> 0 0 eth0
>>
>> The only conclusion I've left with is that the Fedora box Network stack is
>> somehow disconnected from Ethernet adapter. Any help would be greatly
>> appreciated. Thanks.

>
>Note the entry for your default route -- there is no gw IP, which
>pretty much makes this entry useless and problematic.
>
>Presumably this host sits on the 10.1.249.0 subnet and should be using
>a gw on that subnet to route packets beyond the local subnet
>(typically 10.1.249.1 or sometimes 10.1.249.254).
>
>If this is strictly a local, private lan made of a single segment,
>hosts connected via a hub/switch, then you don't really need a gw as
>arp will find the proper mac addresses for the other hosts (since it
>appears you've not turned off arp).
>
>If your lan is segmented (ie., employs a router between segments) then
>you probably want a default gw (and its IP).
>
>If you wish to restrict this host to "local" traffic, then you don't
>need a default route.
>
>If you have a router facing the internet you will have to provide a gw
>IP to move traffic for this host.
>
>If you don't need a default route, get rid of the entry. If you need
>a default route, provide a gw IP so that the packets (actually the
>ethernet frames) are properly addressed.
>
>hth,
>prg
>email above disabled


 
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