How Fast Will broadband Get

Hi,
I don't really have a problem but i was just wondering hoe fast
broandband for households will. get in the future. There are limits to
cable technology to how much we can get but its over 100mbps so we are
not really complaining yet but on the internet there was a site which
said that the fastest internet access has been setup in the UK using a
Fibre Optic network as part of a project by the goverment to develop a
secure network in case of a terrorist attack. (they are try to make
something that wont melt if a bomb drops). The people i think were in
surrey and they got access to the internet a 2Gbps. Not bad. That means
they would be able to download the whole of britanicas online
encyclopedia content in 7 secs. Not bad. So i was wondering what is the
fastest internet you can to your home and if anyone has any info on
what compainies are planning for the future. Will there be a fibre
optic network that everyone is connect to one day?

On 4 Jan 2007, "naza" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I don't really have a problem but i was just wondering hoe fast
>broandband for households will. get in the future. There are limits to
>cable technology to how much we can get but its over 100mbps so we are
>not really complaining yet but on the internet there was a site which

I think Hong Kong has a cable service offering 100 Mbps "now", for
HK <-> HK traffic, with an upper limit of 20 Mbps for international,
but I'd guess that it's ideal for transferring audio/video and making
a copy of multi-GB files (eg pirate copies of films :-) but for most
it is higher than people would need, I'd think.


> The people i think were in surrey and they got access to the internet
> a 2Gbps. Not bad. That means they would be able to download the whole
> of britanicas online encyclopedia content in 7 secs. Not bad.

Possibly not the fastest - every now and then there'll be a report on
The Register (www.theregister.co.uk) or similar about fastest speeds
that have been achieved (from research labs, of course), but these
are great as trials and have limited practical uses - 100 Mbps is
likely to be quite adequate for the transfer of data within the
home - simply because there will be I/O limits (you can transfer a
film from one part of the house to another, but it still takes 90
minutes "running time" so does it matter if it downloads in "real
time" (ie streaming as fast as it gets played) or from A->B takes
10 minutes, 1 minute, or 10 seconds (but still takes 90 minutes
to enjoy watching it). Higher speed means you can move stuff
faster (so long as disks keep up) but "so what" ?

On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 13:16:37, naza wrote:

>Will there be a fibre optic network that everyone is connect to one
>day?

Almost certainly one day. Or some other technology as yet to be
developed (but may have been thought of).

--
Jim Crowther.

West London MAG: Popes Grotto, Twickenham, every Tuesday from 21:00 onwards.

On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 21:31:13, NoNeedToKnow wrote:

>Higher speed means you can move stuff faster (so long as disks keep up)
>but "so what" ?

Full bandwidth HDTV on 'demand'? That might be several Gbps:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Digital_Interface

As it is full bandwidth SD (Standard Definition) TV is 270Mbps, and that
has been used for delivery between broadcasters over fibre optics for
over 12 years.

Roll out fibre to each home, get the full uncompressed detail. The
demand will be there if the infrastructure can support it.

--
Jim Crowther.

West London MAG: Popes Grotto, Twickenham, every Tuesday from 21:00 onwards.

"naza" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I don't really have a problem but i was just wondering hoe fast
> broandband for households will. get in the future. There are limits to
> cable technology to how much we can get but its over 100mbps so we are
> not really complaining yet but on the internet there was a site which
> said that the fastest internet access has been setup in the UK using a
> Fibre Optic network as part of a project by the goverment to develop a
> secure network in case of a terrorist attack. (they are try to make
> something that wont melt if a bomb drops). The people i think were in
> surrey and they got access to the internet a 2Gbps. Not bad. That means
> they would be able to download the whole of britanicas online
> encyclopedia content in 7 secs. Not bad. So i was wondering what is the
> fastest internet you can to your home and if anyone has any info on
> what compainies are planning for the future. Will there be a fibre
> optic network that everyone is connect to one day?
>

Intel were looking at providing hardware to do 10G to the home using on chip
lasers, etc.
They want to keep the costs down to a few dollars and use one fibre AFAIK.
There isn't much chance of getting that in the UK for a while.

On 4 Jan 2007 13:16:37 -0800, "naza" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Will there be a fibre
>optic network that everyone is connect to one day?

All the houses where I live already have fibre optic cable
connections. They were connected about ten years ago. Mainly used for
cable television and phones.

ICL were using laser via fibre optic cables for communications between
mainframes about 20 years ago. It was extremely fast.

--
Steve Wolstenholme Neural Planner Software

EasyNN-plus. The easy way to build neural networks.
http://www.easynn.com

In message <(E-Mail Removed) .com>, naza
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>Hi,
>I don't really have a problem but i was just wondering hoe fast
>broandband for households will. get in the future.

Define the future? At any point in time it will be fast enough to
satisfy the needs of 80% of users, and 10-20% of the speed most of the
rest think (sorry - know) they need.

>There are limits to
>cable technology to how much we can get but its over 100mbps so we are
>not really complaining yet but on the internet there was a site which
>said that the fastest internet access has been setup in the UK using a
>Fibre Optic network as part of a project by the goverment to develop a
>secure network in case of a terrorist attack. (they are try to make
>something that wont melt if a bomb drops). The people i think were in
>surrey and they got access to the internet a 2Gbps. Not bad.

Oh OK 0.5% of the speed 0.05% of the population can imagine a need for!

>That means
>they would be able to download the whole of britanicas online
>encyclopedia content in 7 secs. Not bad. So i was wondering what is the
>fastest internet you can to your home and if anyone has any info on
>what compainies are planning for the future.

I would expect the central "bit trucking" network to expand from the
exchange to the local distribution cabinet using fibre over the next few
(3 -15) years. Then into the individual dwelling. As electronics get
cheaper it makes more and more sense to packetise traffic close to its
source and push it into a common digital traffic stream. BT's "Home
hub" is just one (early?) example.

>Will there be a fibre
>optic network that everyone is connect to one day?
>
Yes - define one day. It will happen in cities and high density areas
of population first. (Look at where all the examples of high bandwidth
commercial services are). Within cities the first beneficiaries will be
those living in high density property.

If you want to be an early adopter of the future, expect to live in a
high-rise apartment in a big city. You will then have access to enough
bandwidth to live in a virtual reality rural idyl. Or you can live in
a real rural environment without the bandwidth. Your call.

It may never reach the rural population. We may have all been moved into
the city by then to leave the open space free for the use of webcam's
(or their VR equivalent)! [Or because cities are more efficient from a
conservation perspective]

Regards.
--
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naza wrote:

> Hi,
> I don't really have a problem but i was just wondering hoe fast
> broandband for households will. get in the future.

If it's over a phone line you're looking at, ADSL2+ is the one which close to
the exchange can provide 24 Mbps IIRC.

Coaxial cables can go much faster of course.

Graham

"dennis@home" wrote:

> Intel were looking at providing hardware to do 10G to the home using on chip
> lasers, etc.
> They want to keep the costs down to a few dollars and use one fibre AFAIK.
> There isn't much chance of getting that in the UK for a while.

There's not much chance your PC could keep up with 1/1000 th of that speed on a
sustained basis !

It's 'throughput' that counts, not the local back haul to your PC.

Ordinary MaxDSL is perfectly good. The problem lies on the far side of the DSLAM

Graham

Jim Crowther wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 21:31:13, NoNeedToKnow wrote:
>
> >Higher speed means you can move stuff faster (so long as disks keep up)
> >but "so what" ?
>
> Full bandwidth HDTV on 'demand'? That might be several Gbps:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Digital_Interface
>
> As it is full bandwidth SD (Standard Definition) TV is 270Mbps, and that
> has been used for delivery between broadcasters over fibre optics for
> over 12 years.
>
> Roll out fibre to each home, get the full uncompressed detail. The
> demand will be there if the infrastructure can support it.

Speeding up the 'back haul' is pointless if there aren't enough pipes to carry
the traffic.

It's like having local 10 lane highways feeding the M25.

Graham