extending Adelphia/Comcast cable to my new WIFI hub

Greetings, I currently have internet cable service. I have connected
the service cable to the Adelphia/Comcast modem and connected that to
my Belkin Pre-N Router, and as many have confirmed, the WIFI signal
from this router is exceptional. We live on a 1-1/2 acre lot at the end
of a cul-de-sac. There are two houses (house A and house B) on this
lot. The cable comes into house A (closest to the street) where the
modem and router are located. From this location I have gotten an
acceptable wireless signal to house B which is a good 150 feet away.
But now I have built a new studio 300 feet from House A and would like
to relocate the modem and router to this location. The Adelphia/Comcast
tech has been out and said that the cable run is too far to the studio
and they will have to extend the cable at the street and put in a new
box out there, and I am anticipating an expensive bill from Comcast to
do this. As an alternative, is there any other way to get my modem and
router relocated to the studio without extending the cable in the
street?

"daedalo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Greetings, I currently have internet cable service. I have connected
> the service cable to the Adelphia/Comcast modem and connected that to
> my Belkin Pre-N Router, and as many have confirmed, the WIFI signal
> from this router is exceptional. We live on a 1-1/2 acre lot at the end
> of a cul-de-sac. There are two houses (house A and house B) on this
> lot. The cable comes into house A (closest to the street) where the
> modem and router are located. From this location I have gotten an
> acceptable wireless signal to house B which is a good 150 feet away.
> But now I have built a new studio 300 feet from House A and would like
> to relocate the modem and router to this location. The Adelphia/Comcast
> tech has been out and said that the cable run is too far to the studio
> and they will have to extend the cable at the street and put in a new
> box out there, and I am anticipating an expensive bill from Comcast to
> do this. As an alternative, is there any other way to get my modem and
> router relocated to the studio without extending the cable in the
> street?

Are you wanting to extend the cable as well as the internet?
Trying to extend the cable via a wireless link may give Adelphia some
heartburn.
I am thinking a repeater, but that is probably why the cable company wants
to extend the cable in the street, the cable loss to get to the studio would
be excessive, hence they want a direct shot from the main cable
If it is just internet, you can probably get a directional antenna use on
your wireless routers.
>

daedalo <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> tech has been out and said that the cable run is too far to the studio
> and they will have to extend the cable at the street and put in a new
> box out there, and I am anticipating an expensive bill from Comcast to
> do this.

Why would you think there will be a large bill for installing the cable in
the house where you want it?

Cable is often installed for free, and usually has no more than a $100
installation fee. Geting the cable to your building is not usually part of
the cost. Either service is offered, or it is not.

What about the initial installation? Did you want it connected to house B
in the first place? Did a tech connect it where it was easy to do, instead
of where you wanted it?


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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

Dana wrote:
> Are you wanting to extend the cable as well as the internet?
> Trying to extend the cable via a wireless link may give Adelphia some
> heartburn.
> I am thinking a repeater, but that is probably why the cable company wants
> to extend the cable in the street, the cable loss to get to the studio would
> be excessive, hence they want a direct shot from the main cable
> If it is just internet, you can probably get a directional antenna use on
> your wireless routers.

Sorry, I was unclear. The 'cable' is internet ONLY. I have no
interest in cable television programming. The cable tech has indicated
the cable in the street will need to be extended "further down the
street closer to the studio" with a "new heavier gage cable" and my
guess "a new street box at the terminus". This would shorten the run
from the cable box in the street to the studio.

I am unfamiliar with the "directional antenna" you refer to. How would
this interface with my cable modem and the router?

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> daedalo <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > tech has been out and said that the cable run is too far to the studio
> > and they will have to extend the cable at the street and put in a new
> > box out there, and I am anticipating an expensive bill from Comcast to
> > do this.
>
> Why would you think there will be a large bill for installing the cable in
> the house where you want it?
>
> Cable is often installed for free, and usually has no more than a $100
> installation fee. Geting the cable to your building is not usually part of
> the cost. Either service is offered, or it is not.
>
> What about the initial installation? Did you want it connected to house B
> in the first place? Did a tech connect it where it was easy to do, instead
> of where you wanted it?
> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

Clarance, the original HS internet cable installation was in House A
and was requested in House A. House B is of no importance to this
question. The issue is whether I can employ a inexpensive technology
as an alternative to paying for extended street infrastructure needed
to access the studio. The Belkin wireless router located in House A can
only produce a fair to weak signal to the studio. I want the studio to
be the media center for the entire site and hence I want the wireless
router in that location. Street box to house A is about 200ft. Street
box to House B is 350 ft. Street box to Studio is over 500 ft. By
extending the street box further down the cul-de-sac the distance to
the studio will be reduced to an acceptable level, probably around
250-300 ft.

"daedalo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> Dana wrote:
> > Are you wanting to extend the cable as well as the internet?
> > Trying to extend the cable via a wireless link may give Adelphia some
> > heartburn.
> > I am thinking a repeater, but that is probably why the cable company
wants
> > to extend the cable in the street, the cable loss to get to the studio
would
> > be excessive, hence they want a direct shot from the main cable
> > If it is just internet, you can probably get a directional antenna use
on
> > your wireless routers.
>
> Sorry, I was unclear. The 'cable' is internet ONLY. I have no
> interest in cable television programming. The cable tech has indicated
> the cable in the street will need to be extended "further down the
> street closer to the studio" with a "new heavier gage cable" and my
> guess "a new street box at the terminus". This would shorten the run
> from the cable box in the street to the studio.
>
> I am unfamiliar with the "directional antenna" you refer to. How would
> this interface with my cable modem and the router?

Basically you would need a wireless bridge to connect the two buildings.
A directional antenna offers more gain than the Omni antennas, while Omni's
pretty much give 360 degrees of coverage, directional antennas concentrate
the energy into a given direction. The only bad thing is most wireless
routers from say Best Buy do not come with the option for directional
antennas.
You can go to the linksys website and look at the WAP54GPE Wireless-G
Exterior Access Point to see what you need. The built in antenna has an 8dBi
gain, while not great, should work for your 300 feet distance. Remember you
would need to get two, one on each end of the link. And you would want to
place security on the link to prevent people from easily sniffing your
traffic, or gaining access to your link.
The proper security is built into the boxes, but you must enable it. Their
should be instructions, or some local radio shop/computer shop should be
able to assist. If you have like a best buy/circuit city , they also have
techs inside to assist.
>

"daedalo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> > daedalo <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > > tech has been out and said that the cable run is too far to the studio
> > > and they will have to extend the cable at the street and put in a new
> > > box out there, and I am anticipating an expensive bill from Comcast to
> > > do this.
> >
> > Why would you think there will be a large bill for installing the cable
in
> > the house where you want it?
> >
> > Cable is often installed for free, and usually has no more than a $100
> > installation fee. Geting the cable to your building is not usually part
of
> > the cost. Either service is offered, or it is not.
> >
> > What about the initial installation? Did you want it connected to house
B
> > in the first place? Did a tech connect it where it was easy to do,
instead
> > of where you wanted it?
> > Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5
>
> Clarance, the original HS internet cable installation was in House A
> and was requested in House A. House B is of no importance to this
> question. The issue is whether I can employ a inexpensive technology
> as an alternative to paying for extended street infrastructure needed
> to access the studio. The Belkin wireless router located in House A can
> only produce a fair to weak signal to the studio. I want the studio to
> be the media center for the entire site and hence I want the wireless
> router in that location. Street box to house A is about 200ft. Street
> box to House B is 350 ft. Street box to Studio is over 500 ft. By
> extending the street box further down the cul-de-sac the distance to
> the studio will be reduced to an acceptable level, probably around
> 250-300 ft.

Depending on how much you want to spend, there are many options available.
Your existing wireless router should have an extra lan port you can hook
another wireless router up to.
So here is what you do. If your router does have the extra port, go out and
get a wireless router with a directional antenna WAP54GPE from linksys is an
example of what you need, and you would need two. Connect each one on the
two buildings in question so they see each other. The one on the main
building with the cable company cable modem gets hooked up to that wireless
router you already have in that building.
The other router on building B gets hooked up to your network in the second
house.
I have been in Best Buy/Circuit City, and some smaller computer shops, so if
you have any of those in your area, they usually have people who know what
they are doing and can help you out.
But a solution does exsist and probably for under 500 dollars.

>

daedalo wrote:
> Greetings, I currently have internet cable service. I have connected
> the service cable to the Adelphia/Comcast modem and connected that to
> my Belkin Pre-N Router, and as many have confirmed, the WIFI signal
> from this router is exceptional. We live on a 1-1/2 acre lot at the
> end of a cul-de-sac. There are two houses (house A and house B) on
> this lot. The cable comes into house A (closest to the street) where
> the modem and router are located. From this location I have gotten an
> acceptable wireless signal to house B which is a good 150 feet away.
> But now I have built a new studio 300 feet from House A and would like
> to relocate the modem and router to this location. The
> Adelphia/Comcast tech has been out and said that the cable run is too
> far to the studio and they will have to extend the cable at the
> street and put in a new box out there, and I am anticipating an
> expensive bill from Comcast to do this. As an alternative, is there
> any other way to get my modem and router relocated to the studio
> without extending the cable in the street?

Probably.. How does the studio get it's power? At my 5 acre place in ID the
workshop was about 1000 ft from the house, but the electric power came to
the house (and meter) first, and then went on to the outbuilding. Used
netgear powerline networking, they have 2 different speeds (54 and 85, soon
to also have 200 at
http://www.netgear.com/Solutions/Hom...etworking.aspx )
The 54 ones (same speed as wireless) are about $99....

Dana, That sounds like a very doable approach. I will check this out.

>
> Probably.. How does the studio get it's power? At my 5 acre place in ID the
> workshop was about 1000 ft from the house, but the electric power came to
> the house (and meter) first, and then went on to the outbuilding. Used
> netgear powerline networking, they have 2 different speeds (54 and 85, soon
> to also have 200 at
> http://www.netgear.com/Solutions/Hom...etworking.aspx )
> The 54 ones (same speed as wireless) are about $99....

I will check this out also. However, I attempted to use this technology
on another device and it failed when extended to the studio, and I am
not sure why.