Explanation of Download Limit Needed

Hi all

Complete broadband newbie so please be gentle.
Our one and only ISP (Karoo in Hull) have a starter service which includes a
2Gb download limit (per month presumably).

My understanding is that, as you surf, pages that you view are effectively
"downloaded" temporarily to your PC.
Presumably this traffic counts towards your 2Gb allocation along with any
files that you explicitly download individually?

Are these assumptions correct and if so, is 2Gb a reasonable starting point?
I am interested in surfing (for family of 4), newsgroup access (myself only)
and occasional file downloads.

I am also likely to run a VPN link to my works PC.
Are these supported by domestic ISPs?



TIA

Phil

"TheScullster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi all
>
> Complete broadband newbie so please be gentle.
> Our one and only ISP (Karoo in Hull) have a starter service which includes
> a 2Gb download limit (per month presumably).
>
> My understanding is that, as you surf, pages that you view are effectively
> "downloaded" temporarily to your PC.
> Presumably this traffic counts towards your 2Gb allocation along with any
> files that you explicitly download individually?
>

Yup. 2gb used to get you a lot of surfing but with the advent of youtube
and embedded video (whether you want it or not) you might find 5gb necessary
to be absolutely certain.

Do you know what happens if you exceed the limit? Some throttle your speed
but others charge you.

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
TheScullster <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> Complete broadband newbie so please be gentle.
> Our one and only ISP (Karoo in Hull) have a starter service which
> includes a 2Gb download limit (per month presumably).
>
> My understanding is that, as you surf, pages that you view are
> effectively "downloaded" temporarily to your PC.
> Presumably this traffic counts towards your 2Gb allocation along with
> any files that you explicitly download individually?
>
> Are these assumptions correct and if so, is 2Gb a reasonable starting
> point? I am interested in surfing (for family of 4), newsgroup access
> (myself only) and occasional file downloads.
>
> I am also likely to run a VPN link to my works PC.
> Are these supported by domestic ISPs?
>
>
>
> TIA
>
> Phil

Everything which comes to your PC over your internet connection (web pages
served, emails, newsgroup messages read, files downloaded, streaming video
received, etc.) all counts against the 2G limit.

I have a 2G limit with PlusNet, and rarely use more than half of it. And
that includes lots of all the activities mentioned above. If you want to go
in for binary newsgroups (mine are text only) or lots of P2P file sharing it
may be a different story. Otherwise 2Gb is a perfectly reasonable starting
point. Start there and see how you get on.

I'm sure you can set up a VPN link providing you have a suitable router.
I'll leave those who know about these things to provide further details.
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Cheers,
Roger
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TheScullster wrote:

> Hi all
>
> Complete broadband newbie so please be gentle.
> Our one and only ISP (Karoo in Hull) have a starter service which includes a
> 2Gb download limit (per month presumably).

Yes.


> My understanding is that, as you surf, pages that you view are effectively
> "downloaded" temporarily to your PC.

Yes.


> Presumably this traffic counts towards your 2Gb allocation along with any
> files that you explicitly download individually?

Yes.


> Are these assumptions correct and if so, is 2Gb a reasonable starting point?
> I am interested in surfing (for family of 4), newsgroup access (myself only)
> and occasional file downloads.

It's very likely to be adequate. Most ISPs charge about £1 per GB if you need
more for those starter products.


> I am also likely to run a VPN link to my works PC.
> Are these supported by domestic ISPs?

Normally.

Graham

On Monday 26 February 2007 3:53 pm, in MID
<(E-Mail Removed)>, Roger Mills
((E-Mail Removed)) wrote:
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> TheScullster <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>> My understanding is that, as you surf, pages that you view are
>> effectively "downloaded" temporarily to your PC.
>> Presumably this traffic counts towards your 2Gb allocation along with
>> any files that you explicitly download individually?

> Everything which comes to your PC over your internet connection (web pages
> served, emails, newsgroup messages read, files downloaded, streaming video
> received, etc.) all counts against the 2G limit.

Also, with some ISPs, everything that you upload.

regards,
--
Ian...

"ian" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Monday 26 February 2007 3:53 pm, in MID
> <(E-Mail Removed)>, Roger Mills
> ((E-Mail Removed)) wrote:
>> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
>> TheScullster <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>> My understanding is that, as you surf, pages that you view are
>>> effectively "downloaded" temporarily to your PC.
>>> Presumably this traffic counts towards your 2Gb allocation along with
>>> any files that you explicitly download individually?
>
>> Everything which comes to your PC over your internet connection (web
>> pages
>> served, emails, newsgroup messages read, files downloaded, streaming
>> video
>> received, etc.) all counts against the 2G limit.
>
> Also, with some ISPs, everything that you upload.
>
>

I would say most ISPs count upload. It costs them about the just the same
up and down.

On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:54:53 UTC, "steeler" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> "ian" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news(E-Mail Removed)...
> > On Monday 26 February 2007 3:53 pm, in MID
> > <(E-Mail Removed)>, Roger Mills
> > ((E-Mail Removed)) wrote:
> >> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> >> TheScullster <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> >>> My understanding is that, as you surf, pages that you view are
> >>> effectively "downloaded" temporarily to your PC.
> >>> Presumably this traffic counts towards your 2Gb allocation along with
> >>> any files that you explicitly download individually?
> >
> >> Everything which comes to your PC over your internet connection (web
> >> pages
> >> served, emails, newsgroup messages read, files downloaded, streaming
> >> video
> >> received, etc.) all counts against the 2G limit.
> >
> > Also, with some ISPs, everything that you upload.
> I would say most ISPs count upload. It costs them about the just the same
> up and down.

I expect you're right. AAISP don't count it, though. Not at all.

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Eeyore wrote:
> TheScullster wrote:
>> I am also likely to run a VPN link to my works PC.
>> Are these supported by domestic ISPs?
>
> Normally.
>
> Graham

Think you'll find your wrong on this point, they may not stop the VPN
being used but won't support it if there are problems is the attitude
of most domestic ISPs

kraftee wrote:

> Eeyore wrote:
> > TheScullster wrote:
> >> I am also likely to run a VPN link to my works PC.
> >> Are these supported by domestic ISPs?
> >
> > Normally.
> >
> > Graham
>
> Think you'll find your wrong on this point, they may not stop the VPN
> being used but won't support it if there are problems is the attitude
> of most domestic ISPs

That depends on your definition of 'support'. I sort of read it as "not actively
hinder" ! A sad comment but just a relection on the state of this industry.

Graham

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
ian <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On Monday 26 February 2007 3:53 pm, in MID
> <(E-Mail Removed)>, Roger Mills
> ((E-Mail Removed)) wrote:
>> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
>> TheScullster <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>> My understanding is that, as you surf, pages that you view are
>>> effectively "downloaded" temporarily to your PC.
>>> Presumably this traffic counts towards your 2Gb allocation along
>>> with any files that you explicitly download individually?
>
>> Everything which comes to your PC over your internet connection (web
>> pages served, emails, newsgroup messages read, files downloaded,
>> streaming video received, etc.) all counts against the 2G limit.
>
> Also, with some ISPs, everything that you upload.
>
That is true, although - unless you're into P2P - the volume is likely to be
orders of magnitude less than the downstream traffic.
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Cheers,
Roger
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