Explain this one

I am at a rental unit using their system. I have a MacBook Pro, the
wireless router is a Belkin g, Motorola cable modem and vonage is
involved. I have full access to my e-mail. AIM through iChat, UseNet
obviously and https:// websites, but NOT just regular http://websites.
Any suggestions?

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<kurtullman-(E-Mail Removed)>,
Kurt Ullman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I am at a rental unit using their system. I have a MacBook Pro, the
> wireless router is a Belkin g, Motorola cable modem and vonage is
> involved. I have full access to my e-mail. AIM through iChat, UseNet
> obviously and https:// websites, but NOT just regular http://websites.
> Any suggestions?

Have the same results using both Sea Monkey and Safari.

Kurt Ullman <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

> I am at a rental unit using their system. I have a MacBook Pro, the
>wireless router is a Belkin g, Motorola cable modem and vonage is
>involved. I have full access to my e-mail. AIM through iChat, UseNet
>obviously and https:// websites, but NOT just regular http://websites.
>Any suggestions?

The Belking g router has URL redirection setup for Port 80, but no
other ports. All the other ports work, but port 80 is being
redirected to who knows where. Did you perhaps try to bypass the
splash screen, where you have to click "OK" to browse? What you
describe is what happens when you do that.

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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Kurt Ullman <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>
> > I am at a rental unit using their system. I have a MacBook Pro, the
> >wireless router is a Belkin g, Motorola cable modem and vonage is
> >involved. I have full access to my e-mail. AIM through iChat, UseNet
> >obviously and https:// websites, but NOT just regular http://websites.
> >Any suggestions?
>
> The Belking g router has URL redirection setup for Port 80, but no
> other ports. All the other ports work, but port 80 is being
> redirected to who knows where. Did you perhaps try to bypass the
> splash screen, where you have to click "OK" to browse? What you
> describe is what happens when you do that.

this was an already up and functioning network that I just signed on
to. I did not see a splash screen asking me to do anything when I
connected though airport the first time. So, how do I get around it? I
have already tried to power down the computer and try signing on again.
Anything else?

Kurt Ullman <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
> Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Kurt Ullman <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>>
>> > I am at a rental unit using their system. I have a MacBook Pro, the
>> >wireless router is a Belkin g, Motorola cable modem and vonage is
>> >involved. I have full access to my e-mail. AIM through iChat, UseNet
>> >obviously and https:// websites, but NOT just regular http://websites.
>> >Any suggestions?
>>
>> The Belking g router has URL redirection setup for Port 80, but no
>> other ports. All the other ports work, but port 80 is being
>> redirected to who knows where. Did you perhaps try to bypass the
>> splash screen, where you have to click "OK" to browse? What you
>> describe is what happens when you do that.

> this was an already up and functioning network that I just signed on
>to. I did not see a splash screen asking me to do anything when I
>connected though airport the first time. So, how do I get around it? I
>have already tried to power down the computer and try signing on again.
>Anything else?

Spoof your MAC address and pretend you're a "new" user.
<http://www.macgeekery.com/gspot/2006-04/mac_address_spoofing>

I'm failure sure that port 80 redirection screwup is what's happening.
However, without access to the config or the hardware, I'm not sure
what to do about it. What's also odd is that Belkin routers are not
commonly used by hotspot operators. It may not have a splash screen.
Any clue as to the exact Belkin model number?

It might help if you ask the hotspot operator to power cycle the
Belkin g whatever router. My guess(tm) is that some table is
overflowing or corrupted in the router.

Also, double check your MacBook Pro Safari setup. If you've got a web
proxy setup for port 80 access, it will do the same thing, especially
if the proxy doesn't exist or is inaccessible. That's especially true
for Anonymizer, web content filtering services, and corporate proxy
servers.

To specify a proxy server in Safari:
1. Click to open Safari.
2. Click on Safari -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Change Settings
3. Notice that the System Preferences -> Network pane opens,
displaying the proxy settings for the type of connection you
are using.
4. Under Select a proxy server to configure, click to select
the type of proxy server.
5. Under Secure Web Proxy Server, enter the IP address or DNS
name in the text box. In the text box after the colon (
symbol, enter the port number.
6. Click on Apply Now.

Basically, check the settings and make sure that a proxy server is
*NOT* specified.



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Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

\
> Spoof your MAC address and pretend you're a "new" user.
> <http://www.macgeekery.com/gspot/2006-04/mac_address_spoofing>
>
> I'm failure sure that port 80 redirection screwup is what's happening.
Whatever it was it seems temporary because everything is working
perfectly this morning. I played with it for about 4 hours last night
before I posted to the Usenet (honest-grin), and it wouldn't work. With
either Safari or Sea Monkey. Now it does. I wonder if I just happened on
to an ISP-induced outage of the web.....
Anyway, as always thanks muchly for the assist. I appreciate the
time and efforts.

K

In article
<kurtullman-(E-Mail Removed)>,
Kurt Ullman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
> Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> \
> > Spoof your MAC address and pretend you're a "new" user.
> > <http://www.macgeekery.com/gspot/2006-04/mac_address_spoofing>
> >
> > I'm failure sure that port 80 redirection screwup is what's happening.
> Whatever it was it seems temporary because everything is working
> perfectly this morning. I played with it for about 4 hours last night
> before I posted to the Usenet (honest-grin), and it wouldn't work. With
> either Safari or Sea Monkey. Now it does. I wonder if I just happened on
> to an ISP-induced outage of the web.....
> Anyway, as always thanks muchly for the assist. I appreciate the
> time and efforts.
>
> K

Is it now safe to assume that the problem lies with the ISP?
K

Kurt Ullman wrote:
> In article
> <kurtullman-(E-Mail Removed)>,
> Kurt Ullman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
>> Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>> \
>>> Spoof your MAC address and pretend you're a "new" user.
>>> <http://www.macgeekery.com/gspot/2006-04/mac_address_spoofing>
>>>
>>> I'm failure sure that port 80 redirection screwup is what's happening.
>> Whatever it was it seems temporary because everything is working
>> perfectly this morning. I played with it for about 4 hours last night
>> before I posted to the Usenet (honest-grin), and it wouldn't work. With
>> either Safari or Sea Monkey. Now it does. I wonder if I just happened on
>> to an ISP-induced outage of the web.....
>> Anyway, as always thanks muchly for the assist. I appreciate the
>> time and efforts.
>>
>> K
>
> Is it now safe to assume that the problem lies with the ISP?
> K


I have seen hotel hotspots splash pages that only worked consistently
with Internet Explorer.


I don't have a Mac so take the following with a grain of salt

If you have or can install wireshark, <http://www.wireshark.org> you can
see the traffic.


Also given the Mac BSD heritage maybe the following from traceroute man
page will help

traceroute -T -p 80 www.google.com


will help


John

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
John Mason Jr <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Kurt Ullman wrote:
> > In article
> > <kurtullman-(E-Mail Removed)>,
> > Kurt Ullman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
> >> Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >>
> >> \
> >>> Spoof your MAC address and pretend you're a "new" user.
> >>> <http://www.macgeekery.com/gspot/2006-04/mac_address_spoofing>
> >>>
> >>> I'm failure sure that port 80 redirection screwup is what's happening.
> >> Whatever it was it seems temporary because everything is working
> >> perfectly this morning. I played with it for about 4 hours last night
> >> before I posted to the Usenet (honest-grin), and it wouldn't work. With
> >> either Safari or Sea Monkey. Now it does. I wonder if I just happened on
> >> to an ISP-induced outage of the web.....
> >> Anyway, as always thanks muchly for the assist. I appreciate the
> >> time and efforts.
> >>
> >> K
> >
> > Is it now safe to assume that the problem lies with the ISP?
> > K
>
>
> I have seen hotel hotspots splash pages that only worked consistently
> with Internet Explorer.
>
>
> I don't have a Mac so take the following with a grain of salt
>
> If you have or can install wireshark, <http://www.wireshark.org> you can
> see the traffic.
>
>
> Also given the Mac BSD heritage maybe the following from traceroute man
> page will help
>
> traceroute -T -p 80 www.google.com
>
>
> will help
>
>
> John

The problem is gone again. Also this isn't a hot spot, but a person's
network at a private home I renting for awhile. I talked with my
Landlord and he says Comcast has been known to go walkabout every once
in awhile. And it has always come back again. Now that I have web acess
back, I'll look around for it.

Kurt Ullman wrote:
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
> John Mason Jr <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Kurt Ullman wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <kurtullman-(E-Mail Removed)>,
>>> Kurt Ullman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
>>>> Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> \
>>>>> Spoof your MAC address and pretend you're a "new" user.
>>>>> <http://www.macgeekery.com/gspot/2006-04/mac_address_spoofing>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm failure sure that port 80 redirection screwup is what's happening.
>>>> Whatever it was it seems temporary because everything is working
>>>> perfectly this morning. I played with it for about 4 hours last night
>>>> before I posted to the Usenet (honest-grin), and it wouldn't work. With
>>>> either Safari or Sea Monkey. Now it does. I wonder if I just happened on
>>>> to an ISP-induced outage of the web.....
>>>> Anyway, as always thanks muchly for the assist. I appreciate the
>>>> time and efforts.
>>>>
>>>> K
>>> Is it now safe to assume that the problem lies with the ISP?
>>> K
>>
>> I have seen hotel hotspots splash pages that only worked consistently
>> with Internet Explorer.
>>
>>
>> I don't have a Mac so take the following with a grain of salt
>>
>> If you have or can install wireshark, <http://www.wireshark.org> you can
>> see the traffic.
>>
>>
>> Also given the Mac BSD heritage maybe the following from traceroute man
>> page will help
>>
>> traceroute -T -p 80 www.google.com
>>
>>
>> will help
>>
>>
>> John
>
> The problem is gone again. Also this isn't a hot spot, but a person's
> network at a private home I renting for awhile. I talked with my
> Landlord and he says Comcast has been known to go walkabout every once
> in awhile. And it has always come back again. Now that I have web acess
> back, I'll look around for it.



Sounds like a proxy problem somewhere in the path, the traceroute
command might be able to identify the culprit.

Good Luck

John