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Victoria Castleberry
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      10-09-2004, 01:13 PM
I have probably done a half dozen networks but this one has me buffaloed...

Four systems in the network, one XP Home and three Win98SE.
One of the 98SE systems is the problem.
On this one, going to Network Neighborhood, all four systems show for the
network.
When I try to Open/Explore either of the other 98SE systems, Windows
returns:
"the computer or sharename is not available. Make sure you typed it
correctly".... or something close to this.
From this same system I can access the XP box fine.
From the OTHER 98SE systems I can access the problem system fine.

Any ideas,
Victoria


 
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Carey Holzman
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      10-10-2004, 06:22 AM
www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm

Tip #1 on all PCs

Carey

"Victoria Castleberry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have probably done a half dozen networks but this one has me buffaloed...
>
> Four systems in the network, one XP Home and three Win98SE.
> One of the 98SE systems is the problem.
> On this one, going to Network Neighborhood, all four systems show for the
> network.
> When I try to Open/Explore either of the other 98SE systems, Windows
> returns:
> "the computer or sharename is not available. Make sure you typed it
> correctly".... or something close to this.
> From this same system I can access the XP box fine.
> From the OTHER 98SE systems I can access the problem system fine.
>
> Any ideas,
> Victoria
>



 
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Steve Winograd [MVP]
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      10-10-2004, 07:52 AM
In article <ekUL#(E-Mail Removed)>, "Carey Holzman"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>"Victoria Castleberry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I have probably done a half dozen networks but this one has me buffaloed...
>>
>> Four systems in the network, one XP Home and three Win98SE.
>> One of the 98SE systems is the problem.
>> On this one, going to Network Neighborhood, all four systems show for the
>> network.
>> When I try to Open/Explore either of the other 98SE systems, Windows
>> returns:
>> "the computer or sharename is not available. Make sure you typed it
>> correctly".... or something close to this.
>> From this same system I can access the XP box fine.
>> From the OTHER 98SE systems I can access the problem system fine.
>>
>> Any ideas,
>> Victoria


These tips should help you get everything working:

1. If the computers run the original or SP1 versions of Windows XP,
disable XP's built-in Internet Connection Firewall on local area
network connections -- it's for use only on a direct modem connection
to the Internet. If they run SP2, enable the exception for file and
printer sharing in the Windows Firewall. Disable and un-install all
other firewall programs while troubleshooting. When un-installing a
firewall program, use the un-install procedure provided by the
manufacturer . Don't use Control Panel | Add or Remove Programs,
which might not completely un-install it.

For more information, see:

Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...c_firewall.htm

2. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing. If the network
needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing from all
but one of them. Details here:

Windows XP Network Protocols
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/..._protocols.htm

3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on all computers.
Details here:

Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...hoot/netbt.htm

4. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the
beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should
actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the
computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a
peer-to-peer network, for NetBIOS name resolution.

If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:

HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parame ters

and delete these values if they're present:

NodeType
DhcpNodeType

Reboot, then try network access again.

If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
"Mixed".

For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;160177

TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;314053

>www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm
>
>Tip #1 on all PCs
>
>Carey


Victoria, if you look at the web site that Carey gave, don't be
surprised that you can't follow Tip #1. With a single exception, the
settings that it describes don't exist in Windows XP. For details,
see:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...ubo2%404ax.com
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
 
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Victoria Castleberry
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      10-10-2004, 11:50 PM
About 4 hours on a Sunday.... still not making progress.

Three Win98SE systems w/all updates and one XP Home SP2 w/all updates in the
network.
Two Win98SE systems are fine + the XP box.

ONE 98SE system sees all the computers in the Network Neighborhood BUT when
I Click to Open/Explore one of the other 98SE systems, I get a messagebox
"the computer or sharename cannot be found. Make sure you typed it
correctly....."

I have gone through everything a dozen times.
The only thing I find "unusual" is in the Properties for the Network
Neighborhood when looking at the TCP/IP entry for the 530TX+.....

Other systems show something like:
TCP/IP-> Dlink DFE-530TX Network adapter.....

This system shows:
TCP/IP (on a single line)
Dlink DFE-530TX.... on another line

The properties of the adapter do show that it is bound to TCP/IP....

Why cannot I get to the shared resources on the other 98SE systems?
BTW, from the other 98SE systems I can get at the shared resources on the
"bad box"


"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <ekUL#(E-Mail Removed)>, "Carey Holzman"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>"Victoria Castleberry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>I have probably done a half dozen networks but this one has me
>>>buffaloed...
>>>
>>> Four systems in the network, one XP Home and three Win98SE.
>>> One of the 98SE systems is the problem.
>>> On this one, going to Network Neighborhood, all four systems show for
>>> the
>>> network.
>>> When I try to Open/Explore either of the other 98SE systems, Windows
>>> returns:
>>> "the computer or sharename is not available. Make sure you typed it
>>> correctly".... or something close to this.
>>> From this same system I can access the XP box fine.
>>> From the OTHER 98SE systems I can access the problem system fine.
>>>
>>> Any ideas,
>>> Victoria

>
> These tips should help you get everything working:
>
> 1. If the computers run the original or SP1 versions of Windows XP,
> disable XP's built-in Internet Connection Firewall on local area
> network connections -- it's for use only on a direct modem connection
> to the Internet. If they run SP2, enable the exception for file and
> printer sharing in the Windows Firewall. Disable and un-install all
> other firewall programs while troubleshooting. When un-installing a
> firewall program, use the un-install procedure provided by the
> manufacturer . Don't use Control Panel | Add or Remove Programs,
> which might not completely un-install it.
>
> For more information, see:
>
> Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...c_firewall.htm
>
> 2. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing. If the network
> needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing from all
> but one of them. Details here:
>
> Windows XP Network Protocols
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/..._protocols.htm
>
> 3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on all computers.
> Details here:
>
> Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...hoot/netbt.htm
>
> 4. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the
> beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should
> actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the
> computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a
> peer-to-peer network, for NetBIOS name resolution.
>
> If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:
>
> HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parame ters
>
> and delete these values if they're present:
>
> NodeType
> DhcpNodeType
>
> Reboot, then try network access again.
>
> If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
> value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
> "Mixed".
>
> For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:
>
> Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;160177
>
> TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;314053
>
>>www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm
>>
>>Tip #1 on all PCs
>>
>>Carey

>
> Victoria, if you look at the web site that Carey gave, don't be
> surprised that you can't follow Tip #1. With a single exception, the
> settings that it describes don't exist in Windows XP. For details,
> see:
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...ubo2%404ax.com
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm



 
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Haggis
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      10-12-2004, 12:45 PM

"Victoria Castleberry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> About 4 hours on a Sunday.... still not making progress.
>
> Three Win98SE systems w/all updates and one XP Home SP2 w/all updates in
> the network.
> Two Win98SE systems are fine + the XP box.
>
> ONE 98SE system sees all the computers in the Network Neighborhood BUT
> when I Click to Open/Explore one of the other 98SE systems, I get a
> messagebox "the computer or sharename cannot be found. Make sure you
> typed it correctly....."
>
> I have gone through everything a dozen times.
> The only thing I find "unusual" is in the Properties for the Network
> Neighborhood when looking at the TCP/IP entry for the 530TX+.....
>
> Other systems show something like:
> TCP/IP-> Dlink DFE-530TX Network adapter.....
>
> This system shows:
> TCP/IP (on a single line)
> Dlink DFE-530TX.... on another line
>
> The properties of the adapter do show that it is bound to TCP/IP....
>
> Why cannot I get to the shared resources on the other 98SE systems?
> BTW, from the other 98SE systems I can get at the shared resources on the
> "bad box"
>
>
> "Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> In article <ekUL#(E-Mail Removed)>, "Carey Holzman"
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>"Victoria Castleberry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>I have probably done a half dozen networks but this one has me
>>>>buffaloed...
>>>>
>>>> Four systems in the network, one XP Home and three Win98SE.
>>>> One of the 98SE systems is the problem.
>>>> On this one, going to Network Neighborhood, all four systems show for
>>>> the
>>>> network.
>>>> When I try to Open/Explore either of the other 98SE systems, Windows
>>>> returns:
>>>> "the computer or sharename is not available. Make sure you typed it
>>>> correctly".... or something close to this.
>>>> From this same system I can access the XP box fine.
>>>> From the OTHER 98SE systems I can access the problem system fine.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas,
>>>> Victoria

>>
>> These tips should help you get everything working:
>>
>> 1. If the computers run the original or SP1 versions of Windows XP,
>> disable XP's built-in Internet Connection Firewall on local area
>> network connections -- it's for use only on a direct modem connection
>> to the Internet. If they run SP2, enable the exception for file and
>> printer sharing in the Windows Firewall. Disable and un-install all
>> other firewall programs while troubleshooting. When un-installing a
>> firewall program, use the un-install procedure provided by the
>> manufacturer . Don't use Control Panel | Add or Remove Programs,
>> which might not completely un-install it.
>>
>> For more information, see:
>>
>> Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall
>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...c_firewall.htm
>>
>> 2. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing. If the network
>> needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing from all
>> but one of them. Details here:
>>
>> Windows XP Network Protocols
>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/..._protocols.htm
>>
>> 3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on all computers.
>> Details here:
>>
>> Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...hoot/netbt.htm
>>
>> 4. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the
>> beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should
>> actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the
>> computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a
>> peer-to-peer network, for NetBIOS name resolution.
>>
>> If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:
>>
>> HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parame ters
>>
>> and delete these values if they're present:
>>
>> NodeType
>> DhcpNodeType
>>
>> Reboot, then try network access again.
>>
>> If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
>> value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
>> "Mixed".
>>
>> For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:
>>
>> Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;160177
>>
>> TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;314053
>>
>>>www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm
>>>
>>>Tip #1 on all PCs
>>>
>>>Carey

>>
>> Victoria, if you look at the web site that Carey gave, don't be
>> surprised that you can't follow Tip #1. With a single exception, the
>> settings that it describes don't exist in Windows XP. For details,
>> see:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...ubo2%404ax.com
>> --
>> Best Wishes,
>> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>>
>> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
>> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
>> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>>
>> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>>
>> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
>> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

>
>


have you tried booting to safe mode and removing all references to
clients,protocols and adapters ...then reboot and let 98 reinstall?


 
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      10-13-2004, 03:55 PM
Unloading all and restarting - almost did the trick :-)
I finally said what the heck and loaded Netbui and IPX along with TCP/IP and
all is working fine.
Of course I do not understand why this made it work - as no other station in
the network has Netbui or IPX.

Take care


 
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      10-14-2004, 12:19 PM

"Victoria Castleberry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Unloading all and restarting - almost did the trick :-)
> I finally said what the heck and loaded Netbui and IPX along with TCP/IP
> and all is working fine.
> Of course I do not understand why this made it work - as no other station
> in the network has Netbui or IPX.
>
> Take care
>


sometimes you just have to kick it in the butt! :>

now I wonder if you uninstall Netbeui ...will it still work ? :>


 
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      10-15-2004, 07:41 PM
If it ain't broke don't fix it!! :-)


"Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Victoria Castleberry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%23$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Unloading all and restarting - almost did the trick :-)
>> I finally said what the heck and loaded Netbui and IPX along with TCP/IP
>> and all is working fine.
>> Of course I do not understand why this made it work - as no other station
>> in the network has Netbui or IPX.
>>
>> Take care
>>

>
> sometimes you just have to kick it in the butt! :>
>
> now I wonder if you uninstall Netbeui ...will it still work ? :>
>



 
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      10-18-2004, 06:58 PM
heh heh ...too true ...but extra protocols may impede "smooth" operation :>


"Victoria Castleberry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> If it ain't broke don't fix it!! :-)
>
>
> "Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> "Victoria Castleberry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:%23$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Unloading all and restarting - almost did the trick :-)
>>> I finally said what the heck and loaded Netbui and IPX along with TCP/IP
>>> and all is working fine.
>>> Of course I do not understand why this made it work - as no other
>>> station in the network has Netbui or IPX.
>>>
>>> Take care
>>>

>>
>> sometimes you just have to kick it in the butt! :>
>>
>> now I wonder if you uninstall Netbeui ...will it still work ? :>
>>

>
>



 
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