when exchange gets LLU ?

Hi,
Can i check somewhere to find out when my exchange will get LLU enabled?
On samknows.com, it only shows that my exchange is not enabled but does
not give any dates when it possibly could get enabled. I am currently on
2MB and would like to subscribe for max speed available. but i think if
my exchange not getting llu enabled, the only option left would be
upcoming telewest's 10 mb for £35 pm (but upload speeds only around 400k)

Regards

On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 17:47:42 +0100, cAm wrote:

> Can i check somewhere to find out when my exchange will get LLU enabled?
> On samknows.com, it only shows that my exchange is not enabled but does
> not give any dates when it possibly could get enabled. I am currently on
> 2MB and would like to subscribe for max speed available. but i think if
> my exchange not getting llu enabled, the only option left would be
> upcoming telewest's 10 mb for £35 pm (but upload speeds only around
> 400k)

Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong but I think all exchanges are
"LLU", they just need an ISP to install equipment in them.

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Simon Morgan wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 17:47:42 +0100, cAm wrote:
>
>> Can i check somewhere to find out when my exchange will get LLU
>> enabled? On samknows.com, it only shows that my exchange is not
>> enabled but does not give any dates when it possibly could get
>> enabled. I am currently on 2MB and would like to subscribe for max
>> speed available. but i think if my exchange not getting llu enabled,
>> the only option left would be upcoming telewest's 10 mb for £35 pm
>> (but upload speeds only around 400k)
>
> Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong but I think all exchanges are
> "LLU", they just need an ISP to install equipment in them.

To be exact most exchanges have got the facilities (racking, cabling &
power) it awaits for any LLU company to rent/buy the space. Most of the
smaller more rural exchanges haven't had the work done yet (if ever)...

On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:00:58 GMT, Simon Morgan <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 17:47:42 +0100, cAm wrote:
>
>> Can i check somewhere to find out when my exchange will get LLU enabled?
>> On samknows.com, it only shows that my exchange is not enabled but does
>> not give any dates when it possibly could get enabled. I am currently on
>> 2MB and would like to subscribe for max speed available. but i think if
>> my exchange not getting llu enabled, the only option left would be
>> upcoming telewest's 10 mb for £35 pm (but upload speeds only around
>> 400k)
>
>Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong but I think all exchanges are
>"LLU", they just need an ISP to install equipment in them.

No need, you're right.

"Unbundling" exchanges is just like the deregulation of bus routes,
you can get the service if you happen to live in the right area.

If nobody's bothered to install kit in your local exchange already,
it's unlikely that it's profitable enough for anybody to consider it.

[as it happens, I do have a spreadsheet from a certain provider
showing exactly which exchanges they will be installing equipment into
over the next 12 months, but I'm not at liberty to reveal <grin>]

Jake

On 02 Sep 2005 17:47, cAm wrote:

> it only shows that my exchange is not enabled but does not give any
> dates when it possibly could get enabled.

LLU isn't something that has to have a set date - it comes down to the
other firms (such as Bulldog or Easynet/UK Online etc) deciding to get
their equipment installed in the exchange, so customers can connect to
a service other than BT (and thus get higher speeds, or whatever). So
your best bet is to ask whichever ISP you want service from to tell if
they have any estimates of providing service where you are. Peter M.

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On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 21:28:39 +0100, poster <us-(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>On 02 Sep 2005 17:47, cAm wrote:
>
>> it only shows that my exchange is not enabled but does not give any
>> dates when it possibly could get enabled.
>
>LLU isn't something that has to have a set date - it comes down to the
>other firms (such as Bulldog or Easynet/UK Online etc) deciding to get
>their equipment installed in the exchange, so customers can connect to
>a service other than BT (and thus get higher speeds, or whatever). So
>your best bet is to ask whichever ISP you want service from to tell if
>they have any estimates of providing service where you are. Peter M.

Forgive my ignorance but why does this have to be provided by someone
other than BT? Can't BT do what Bulldog etc. have been doing and
offer faster speeds?

On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 10:56:06 +0100, root wrote:

> Can't BT do what Bulldog etc. have been doing and offer faster speeds?

Yes.

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On 03 Sep 2005 10:56, root@127.0.0.1 wrote:

>Forgive my ignorance but why does this have to be provided by someone
>other than BT? Can't BT do what Bulldog etc. have been doing and
>offer faster speeds?

"LLU" is specific to other companies. Providing ADSL and SDSL services
is well within BT's capabilities, but (a) they may be unable to reduce
the pricing schemes (to undercut other companies) because of regulation
and the scrutiny they come under (low cost is one reason customers might
be attracted to firms like Bulldog and Easynet/UK Online).

On the technical aspects, there's nothing to stop BT Wholesale offering
higher speeds, and their trials for "Max DSL" (use that phrase within
the ADSLguide.org news archive and you will see details) have probably
just finished, but there may be infrastructure changes needed to cope
if large numbers of customers actually achieve 6000 to 8000 kbps and
are heavy users. Why they had not launched faster products earlier
is anyone's guess. Having just finished alpha testing BT W may be
several months away from launching products ISPs can offer. Peter M.

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