will i ever be able to get broadband? what is the future?

What is the future for us that don't happen to live next to a telephone
exchange. I live 3 miles from the exchange so can't get Adsl, and no cable
in my area. I live just north of Manchester, its hardly the middle of
no-where and find it very anoying that I pay £25 (£15 to freeserve and £9.50
for line rental of an extra line) to get 56kb/s when apparently 80% (althogh
i don't believe that) of the population can get 10 times the speed for less
cost.


Will I ever be able to get broadband? If so, what technology is it likely
to be and when?

Does anyone believe that80% of the population live within 2-3 miles of their
exchange? I would believe maybe 18%.

Any ideas.

Ash

> What is the future for us that don't happen to live next to a telephone
> exchange. I live 3 miles from the exchange so can't get Adsl, and no cable
> in my area.

Have you asked ?
Have they refused ?

Three miles may be within limits as long as the cable doesn`t go all over
the place first...

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"Ash" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bo0gin$qsu$(E-Mail Removed)...
> What is the future for us that don't happen to live next to a telephone
> exchange. I live 3 miles from the exchange so can't get Adsl, and no
cable
> in my area. I live just north of Manchester, its hardly the middle of
> no-where and find it very anoying that I pay £25 (£15 to freeserve and
£9.50
> for line rental of an extra line) to get 56kb/s when apparently 80%
(althogh
> i don't believe that) of the population can get 10 times the speed for
less
> cost.

You will find that currentl ADSL customers pay more than you - as well as
the ADSL subscription they also have to pay BT line rental.

> Will I ever be able to get broadband? If so, what technology is it likely
> to be and when?

Yes, you should be able to get broadband, if now now then one day. Not
possible to say what technology though

Have you applied since the 24th September? The line test limits were changed
then...

You can't just blame BT though - at least they have enabled your exchange,
this hasn't happened to other area's yet.. you could just as well ask why a
cable company hasn't built out in your area...

> Does anyone believe that80% of the population live within 2-3 miles of
their
> exchange? I would believe maybe 18%.

Yes - most people live in cities etc so quite close to their telephone
exchange.

On average 97% of households on an enabled exchange can get 512K ADSL and
from memory the stats go something like:

150 exchanges cover London (1/6 of the population?)
400 exchanges cover 25% of the population
1000 exchanges cover 60% of the population etc

BT are now up to 80% of the population with about 1700/1800 exchanges.

Regards
Sunil

Yes I have asked. They refused me initially, then they refused me again
when I applied for the extended reach trial. It must not go in a staight
line to my house as its 3 miles to the exchange.

Also, I pay two line rentals, one for telephone and one for internet line.
With Adsl I would only need one line, so it would be cheaper to have adsl if
adsl is less than £25, which it now is.


"Sunil Sood" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bo0i7c$16a29k$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "Ash" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:bo0gin$qsu$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > What is the future for us that don't happen to live next to a telephone
> > exchange. I live 3 miles from the exchange so can't get Adsl, and no
> cable
> > in my area. I live just north of Manchester, its hardly the middle of
> > no-where and find it very anoying that I pay £25 (£15 to freeserve and
> £9.50
> > for line rental of an extra line) to get 56kb/s when apparently 80%
> (althogh
> > i don't believe that) of the population can get 10 times the speed for
> less
> > cost.
>
> You will find that currentl ADSL customers pay more than you - as well as
> the ADSL subscription they also have to pay BT line rental.
>
> > Will I ever be able to get broadband? If so, what technology is it
likely
> > to be and when?
>
> Yes, you should be able to get broadband, if now now then one day. Not
> possible to say what technology though
>
> Have you applied since the 24th September? The line test limits were
changed
> then...
>
> You can't just blame BT though - at least they have enabled your exchange,
> this hasn't happened to other area's yet.. you could just as well ask why
a
> cable company hasn't built out in your area...
>
> > Does anyone believe that80% of the population live within 2-3 miles of
> their
> > exchange? I would believe maybe 18%.
>
> Yes - most people live in cities etc so quite close to their telephone
> exchange.
>
> On average 97% of households on an enabled exchange can get 512K ADSL and
> from memory the stats go something like:
>
> 150 exchanges cover London (1/6 of the population?)
> 400 exchanges cover 25% of the population
> 1000 exchanges cover 60% of the population etc
>
> BT are now up to 80% of the population with about 1700/1800 exchanges.
>
> Regards
> Sunil
>
>

> Also, I pay two line rentals, one for telephone and one for internet line.

why ~ could you not get home highway either?

> Yes I have asked. They refused me initially, then they refused me again
> when I applied for the extended reach trial. It must not go in a staight
> line to my house as its 3 miles to the exchange.

Depending on how desperate you are to get it, others have reported paying
for a new line to be installed with the express intent of adsl use. If
they install the line and it won`t take adsl, you get your money back.

Google the group for more info, i`m working from memory here :-}

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In article <bo0i7c$16a29k$(E-Mail Removed)>, Sunil Sood wrote:
> > in my area. I live just north of Manchester, its hardly the middle of
> > no-where and find it very anoying that I pay £25 (£15 to freeserve and
> £9.50
> > for line rental of an extra line) to get 56kb/s when apparently 80%
> (althogh
> > i don't believe that) of the population can get 10 times the speed for
> less
> > cost.
>
> You will find that currentl ADSL customers pay more than you - as well as
> the ADSL subscription they also have to pay BT line rental.
>
I don't. I pay £21.99 to Plusnet. I do pay a BT line rental, but I was
paying that anyway for the phone, so perhaps it is misleading to include it
in the comparison. I haven't needed to pay an additional line rental to be
able to use the two services simultaneously.

Rod.