ethernet & wireless on the same PC

Win98se; WG311v3; 3Com 3C905B

I have a working desktop machine with an ethernet connection. I want to
add wireless to it, so I added the Netgear WG311 card. I am having
problems connecting wirelessly. Do I need to do anything to "tell" the
OS which adapter (ethernet or wifi) to use?

I can still connect to the network if I plug in the ethernet cable. The
wireless wizard shows the available wireless network with strong signal,
and I have been given a valid IP address, but I cannot connect to it. I
do not want to remove the ethernet card, because I want to maintain the
option of connecting with ethernet. My laptop can do, so why not my desktop?

Howard Delman
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Delman Design
Digital design from conception to production
http://www.blueneptune.com/~delman

Howard Delman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed):

> Win98se; WG311v3; 3Com 3C905B
>
> I have a working desktop machine with an ethernet connection. I want
> to add wireless to it, so I added the Netgear WG311 card. I am having
> problems connecting wirelessly. Do I need to do anything to "tell" the
> OS which adapter (ethernet or wifi) to use?
>
> I can still connect to the network if I plug in the ethernet cable.
> The wireless wizard shows the available wireless network with strong
> signal, and I have been given a valid IP address, but I cannot connect
> to it. I do not want to remove the ethernet card, because I want to
> maintain the option of connecting with ethernet. My laptop can do, so
> why not my desktop?
>

All I ever did was enable or disable the wire or wireless NIC on my
laptop through the Winddow XP O/S. If I was using the wire NIC, I would
enable it and disable the wireless NIC. You should be able to do the same
on the Win 9'x O/S I would think.

What do you mean you have been given and valid IP but you cannot connect
to it? What IP is it? If the IP starts with 169, then the machine doesn't
have an IP that is going to allow it to connect to the Internet.

Just what do you mean by this IP that you're getting?

Duane

On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 11:06:07 -0700, Howard Delman wrote:

> Win98se; WG311v3; 3Com 3C905B
>
> I have a working desktop machine with an ethernet connection. I want to
> add wireless to it, so I added the Netgear WG311 card. I am having
> problems connecting wirelessly. Do I need to do anything to "tell" the
> OS which adapter (ethernet or wifi) to use?
>
> I can still connect to the network if I plug in the ethernet cable. The
> wireless wizard shows the available wireless network with strong signal,
> and I have been given a valid IP address, but I cannot connect to it. I
> do not want to remove the ethernet card, because I want to maintain the
> option of connecting with ethernet. My laptop can do, so why not my desktop?

if the nic/wireless cards are one the same network, the computer gets
confused as to which nic to use.

put the wireless nics on the 192.168.1.0 network, the cabled nics on the
10.0.0.0 network and make good use of your hosts file.

works a treat for me.

Duane Arnold wrote:
> Howard Delman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:(E-Mail Removed):
>
>
>>Win98se; WG311v3; 3Com 3C905B
>>
>>I have a working desktop machine with an ethernet connection. I want
>>to add wireless to it, so I added the Netgear WG311 card. I am having
>>problems connecting wirelessly. Do I need to do anything to "tell" the
>>OS which adapter (ethernet or wifi) to use?
>>
>>I can still connect to the network if I plug in the ethernet cable.
>>The wireless wizard shows the available wireless network with strong
>>signal, and I have been given a valid IP address, but I cannot connect
>>to it. I do not want to remove the ethernet card, because I want to
>>maintain the option of connecting with ethernet. My laptop can do, so
>>why not my desktop?
>>
>
>
> All I ever did was enable or disable the wire or wireless NIC on my
> laptop through the Winddow XP O/S. If I was using the wire NIC, I would
> enable it and disable the wireless NIC. You should be able to do the same
> on the Win 9'x O/S I would think.
>
> What do you mean you have been given and valid IP but you cannot connect
> to it? What IP is it? If the IP starts with 169, then the machine doesn't
> have an IP that is going to allow it to connect to the Internet.
>
> Just what do you mean by this IP that you're getting?
>
> Duane

It is not clear to me how I would enable or disable the ethernet or
wireless card in Win98se. Anyone know?

My wireless card has an IP address of 192.168.0.4, which is a reasonable
address considering the rest of my LAN. I can use winipcfg to release
it and renew it, so I know I am capable of talking to the router. I
know it is coming in wirelessly, because I have the ethernet cable
disconnected.

Howard
--
Delman Design
Digital design from conception to production
http://www.blueneptune.com/~delman

there is still a 98 machine out there???


"Howard Delman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Win98se; WG311v3; 3Com 3C905B
>
> I have a working desktop machine with an ethernet connection. I want to
> add wireless to it, so I added the Netgear WG311 card. I am having
> problems connecting wirelessly. Do I need to do anything to "tell" the
> OS which adapter (ethernet or wifi) to use?
>
> I can still connect to the network if I plug in the ethernet cable. The
> wireless wizard shows the available wireless network with strong signal,
> and I have been given a valid IP address, but I cannot connect to it. I
> do not want to remove the ethernet card, because I want to maintain the
> option of connecting with ethernet. My laptop can do, so why not my
> desktop?
>
> Howard Delman
> --
> Delman Design
> Digital design from conception to production
> http://www.blueneptune.com/~delman

Howard Delman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed):

> Duane Arnold wrote:
>> Howard Delman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> news:(E-Mail Removed):
>>
>>
>>>Win98se; WG311v3; 3Com 3C905B
>>>
>>>I have a working desktop machine with an ethernet connection. I want
>>>to add wireless to it, so I added the Netgear WG311 card. I am having
>>>problems connecting wirelessly. Do I need to do anything to "tell"
>>>the OS which adapter (ethernet or wifi) to use?
>>>
>>>I can still connect to the network if I plug in the ethernet cable.
>>>The wireless wizard shows the available wireless network with strong
>>>signal, and I have been given a valid IP address, but I cannot
>>>connect to it. I do not want to remove the ethernet card, because I
>>>want to maintain the option of connecting with ethernet. My laptop
>>>can do, so why not my desktop?
>>>
>>
>>
>> All I ever did was enable or disable the wire or wireless NIC on my
>> laptop through the Winddow XP O/S. If I was using the wire NIC, I
>> would enable it and disable the wireless NIC. You should be able to
>> do the same on the Win 9'x O/S I would think.
>>
>> What do you mean you have been given and valid IP but you cannot
>> connect to it? What IP is it? If the IP starts with 169, then the
>> machine doesn't have an IP that is going to allow it to connect to
>> the Internet.
>>
>> Just what do you mean by this IP that you're getting?
>>
>> Duane
>
> It is not clear to me how I would enable or disable the ethernet or
> wireless card in Win98se. Anyone know?

I would assume you would go to Control Panel/Network Connections and right-
click the LAN icon for the NIC -- Enable or Disable. I am not sure it was
the late 1990's that I last saw a Win 9'x O/S.

Duane

"Howard Delman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...

> It is not clear to me how I would enable or disable the ethernet or
> wireless card in Win98se. Anyone know?
>
Go to the Device Manager to enable/disable the NIC card.

The only easy way to get a 98 machine with both NIC and wireless, to work on
the wireless is to disable the NIC card. In XP I use a nic and wireless on
one machine (laptop) and simply unplug the nic when I plug in the wireless
card. For some reason, that does not work as well in 98 and the only way is
to use the wireless is to disable the nic in the device manager.

Good Luck!

neo

> if the nic/wireless cards are one the same network, the computer gets
> confused as to which nic to use.

If they're both on the same network, the PC just consults the routing
table same as always. The NIC with the lowest metric is chosen and
that's normally the wire connected NIC.

Do an ROUTE PRINT to display your routing table and if the wrong NIC has
the lower metric then you can adjust that in the advanced properties for
that NIC.

No confusion at all.

David.

On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 07:19:36 +0000, David Taylor wrote:

>> if the nic/wireless cards are one the same network, the computer gets
>> confused as to which nic to use.
>
> If they're both on the same network, the PC just consults the routing
> table same as always. The NIC with the lowest metric is chosen and
> that's normally the wire connected NIC.
>
> Do an ROUTE PRINT to display your routing table and if the wrong NIC has
> the lower metric then you can adjust that in the advanced properties for
> that NIC.
>
> No confusion at all.

then why doesn't his p.c. work?

WRC wrote:

> there is still a 98 machine out there???
>
Heavens, yes. There will be until my wife's machine kicks the bucket, or
hell freezes over (ie, when she finally lets me install linux on it).
--
derek