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At the end of my tether with Belkin wireless!!

 
 
peter
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      12-11-2006, 07:24 PM
I've posted various messages on this group and people have been very
helpful, but still I can't get connected. A resume of the situation:

a) I have a laptop with XP home.
b) I am in the UK and connected to talktalk broadband
c) I bought a Belkin modem/router
d) Tried to make connection with external netgear USB network adaptor
(I had one lying around), but no luck!
e) With same adaptor could connect to my neighbours wireless router
(perhaps they have a netgear router?)
f) Went and bought a belkin network adaptor thinking belkin goes with
belkin and..still no luck.
g) Cried

There is a Belkin Wireless Network Utility that shows a good connection
between the router and the laptop, but no connection between the router
and the Internet. But if I use the old usb modem I connect fine to my
broadband connection. If tried with and without firewall and still no
luck.

Any ideas?

Peter

 
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Richard Johnson
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      12-11-2006, 07:38 PM
Peter:

Well, I would try a cross over cable between the router and the belkin.
(Or, if the belkin has a port that is designated as a cross over port, use
that port with a standard cable.)


"peter" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I've posted various messages on this group and people have been very
> helpful, but still I can't get connected. A resume of the situation:
>
> a) I have a laptop with XP home.
> b) I am in the UK and connected to talktalk broadband
> c) I bought a Belkin modem/router
> d) Tried to make connection with external netgear USB network adaptor
> (I had one lying around), but no luck!
> e) With same adaptor could connect to my neighbours wireless router
> (perhaps they have a netgear router?)
> f) Went and bought a belkin network adaptor thinking belkin goes with
> belkin and..still no luck.
> g) Cried
>
> There is a Belkin Wireless Network Utility that shows a good connection
> between the router and the laptop, but no connection between the router
> and the Internet. But if I use the old usb modem I connect fine to my
> broadband connection. If tried with and without firewall and still no
> luck.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Peter
>



 
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Axel Hammerschmidt
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      12-11-2006, 07:46 PM
peter <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

<snip>

> There is a Belkin Wireless Network Utility that shows a good connection
> between the router and the laptop, but no connection between the router
> and the Internet. But if I use the old usb modem I connect fine to my
> broadband connection. If tried with and without firewall and still no
> luck.
>
> Any ideas?


Have you tried "cloning" your laptops MAC address in the router's setup?
 
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peter
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      12-11-2006, 07:50 PM
How do you do that?

Peter

Axel Hammerschmidt wrote:

> peter <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > There is a Belkin Wireless Network Utility that shows a good connection
> > between the router and the laptop, but no connection between the router
> > and the Internet. But if I use the old usb modem I connect fine to my
> > broadband connection. If tried with and without firewall and still no
> > luck.
> >
> > Any ideas?

>
> Have you tried "cloning" your laptops MAC address in the router's setup?


 
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Axel Hammerschmidt
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      12-11-2006, 07:55 PM
peter <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Axel Hammerschmidt wrote:
>
> > peter <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > There is a Belkin Wireless Network Utility that shows a good connection
> > > between the router and the laptop, but no connection between the router
> > > and the Internet. But if I use the old usb modem I connect fine to my
> > > broadband connection. If tried with and without firewall and still no
> > > luck.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?

> >
> > Have you tried "cloning" your laptops MAC address in the router's setup?

>
> How do you do that?


Somewhere on the router's web setup pages.
 
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peter
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      12-11-2006, 08:45 PM
I rang up Belkin (they were very helpful!). On the setup screen they
were surprised that there was no connection to the Internet. This is a
similar problem that I had from Wireless Network Utility screen. But
how can this be if I can switch the cables over and connect via a USB
modem in about 1 minute? The guy at Belkin thought that I should check
my username and password, but to be honest I think he was stumped!

BTW: It's a combined router/modem from Belkin.

Peter

Richard Johnson wrote:

> Peter:
>
> Well, I would try a cross over cable between the router and the belkin.
> (Or, if the belkin has a port that is designated as a cross over port, use
> that port with a standard cable.)
>
>
> "peter" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) ps.com...
> > I've posted various messages on this group and people have been very
> > helpful, but still I can't get connected. A resume of the situation:
> >
> > a) I have a laptop with XP home.
> > b) I am in the UK and connected to talktalk broadband
> > c) I bought a Belkin modem/router
> > d) Tried to make connection with external netgear USB network adaptor
> > (I had one lying around), but no luck!
> > e) With same adaptor could connect to my neighbours wireless router
> > (perhaps they have a netgear router?)
> > f) Went and bought a belkin network adaptor thinking belkin goes with
> > belkin and..still no luck.
> > g) Cried
> >
> > There is a Belkin Wireless Network Utility that shows a good connection
> > between the router and the laptop, but no connection between the router
> > and the Internet. But if I use the old usb modem I connect fine to my
> > broadband connection. If tried with and without firewall and still no
> > luck.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Peter
> >


 
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      12-11-2006, 09:02 PM

If this is a modem that you connect to your broadband isp, if it is
replacing a modem that you already have, it has to be provisioned by your
isp for it to work. (usually that means that they have to register the mac
address and/or the s/n of the modem so that their system will recognize it)

Apologies if I misunderstood the description of your situation.


 
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peter
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      12-11-2006, 09:06 PM
I've been trying to set up the modem/router by typing in the username,
password etc onto the setup screen that the belkin has. The
modem/router should have "learnt" my settings, but somehow hasn't ?!?

Peter

rieker wrote:

> If this is a modem that you connect to your broadband isp, if it is
> replacing a modem that you already have, it has to be provisioned by your
> isp for it to work. (usually that means that they have to register the mac
> address and/or the s/n of the modem so that their system will recognize it)
>
> Apologies if I misunderstood the description of your situation.


 
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rieker
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      12-11-2006, 09:14 PM

"peter" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I've been trying to set up the modem/router by typing in the username,
> password etc onto the setup screen that the belkin has. The
> modem/router should have "learnt" my settings, but somehow hasn't ?!?


No...you must register your 'new' modem with your isp. You cannot just buy
a dsl or cable modem and take it home and hook it up. (only on dialup can
you do that) Some isp's (in the US) have a web page where users can change
their broadband modems, but it is still a special event.

Your isp will want to know things like:
Manufacturer, model no.
Serial no.
mac address
and maybe more.

After they register your modem, their system will then 'talk' to it and
allow it to access the internet.

Likely your username/pwd will be unchanged.


 
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Mark McIntyre
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      12-11-2006, 09:30 PM
On 11 Dec 2006 13:45:08 -0800, in alt.internet.wireless , "peter"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I rang up Belkin (they were very helpful!). On the setup screen they
>were surprised that there was no connection to the Internet. This is a
>similar problem that I had from Wireless Network Utility screen. But
>how can this be if I can switch the cables over and connect via a USB
>modem in about 1 minute?



Whoa - this works if you plug hte USB modem directly into the PC, but
doesn't work if you plug the router into the PC? Did you power
_everything_ off betweentimes? Sometimes ISPs require this to swap
between different hardware.

Also, try it without using the wireless bit for now, get it working
with a plain ethernet cable from PC to router, then try re-enabling
wireless to fix any problems there.
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Mark McIntyre
 
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