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bobdydd
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      09-19-2006, 08:07 PM
Hi All

I am using NTL cable broadband (UK)

I sometimes answer all my email first and the press send/receive to
send up to 40 emails in one go. This causes every one of them to be
rejected and bounced back to me.

So I have conducted a few experiments that might fool whatever
restriction there is on send more than one email at a time.

One of the things I have done is to add a random number to the body and
subject of each email just in case it looks for similar emails and and
rejects them.......However this did not work.

So it seems that if I try to send more than 5 emails in one go they
will ALL be bounced back which if you are trying to deal with lots of
customers is a pest.

Any ideas anyone?

 
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Bioboffin
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      09-19-2006, 08:30 PM
bobdydd wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I am using NTL cable broadband (UK)
>
> I sometimes answer all my email first and the press send/receive to
> send up to 40 emails in one go. This causes every one of them to be
> rejected and bounced back to me.
>
> So I have conducted a few experiments that might fool whatever
> restriction there is on send more than one email at a time.
>
> One of the things I have done is to add a random number to the body
> and subject of each email just in case it looks for similar emails
> and and rejects them.......However this did not work.
>
> So it seems that if I try to send more than 5 emails in one go they
> will ALL be bounced back which if you are trying to deal with lots of
> customers is a pest.
>
> Any ideas anyone?


You don't say what software you are using - you could set the software to
send emails immediately - so that each one goes as it is composed. Of course
this does mean that you can't have second thoughts if you write that flame
to your boss.

--

John


 
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AJR
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      09-19-2006, 08:47 PM
Is it possible that if "one" e-mail is invalid, for whatever reason, they
are all rejected?

"bobdydd" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) ups.com...
> Hi All
>
> I am using NTL cable broadband (UK)
>
> I sometimes answer all my email first and the press send/receive to
> send up to 40 emails in one go. This causes every one of them to be
> rejected and bounced back to me.
>
> So I have conducted a few experiments that might fool whatever
> restriction there is on send more than one email at a time.
>
> One of the things I have done is to add a random number to the body and
> subject of each email just in case it looks for similar emails and and
> rejects them.......However this did not work.
>
> So it seems that if I try to send more than 5 emails in one go they
> will ALL be bounced back which if you are trying to deal with lots of
> customers is a pest.
>
> Any ideas anyone?
>



 
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Agent_C
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      09-19-2006, 08:51 PM
On 19 Sep 2006 13:07:17 -0700, "bobdydd"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I sometimes answer all my email first and the press send/receive to
>send up to 40 emails in one go. This causes every one of them to be
>rejected and bounced back to me.


A simple solution would be to simply hit 'Send' for each and every
email.

Trying to get around your ISP's SPAM control measures is probably
going to be self-defeating; and may even get you suspended.

A_C



 
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Fuzzy Logic
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      09-19-2006, 09:44 PM
"bobdydd" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:1158696437.096786.16830
@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

> Hi All
>
> I am using NTL cable broadband (UK)
>
> I sometimes answer all my email first and the press send/receive to
> send up to 40 emails in one go. This causes every one of them to be
> rejected and bounced back to me.
>
> So I have conducted a few experiments that might fool whatever
> restriction there is on send more than one email at a time.
>
> One of the things I have done is to add a random number to the body and
> subject of each email just in case it looks for similar emails and and
> rejects them.......However this did not work.
>
> So it seems that if I try to send more than 5 emails in one go they
> will ALL be bounced back which if you are trying to deal with lots of
> customers is a pest.
>
> Any ideas anyone?


Many ISP's check for 'bulk' mail sending to block spam mailers. You would need to contact your ISP to find out if
they are doing this and what they consider 'bulk'. I suspect that's what's happening.



 
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stephen
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      09-19-2006, 09:54 PM
"bobdydd" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) ups.com...
> Hi All
>
> I am using NTL cable broadband (UK)
>
> I sometimes answer all my email first and the press send/receive to
> send up to 40 emails in one go. This causes every one of them to be
> rejected and bounced back to me.
>
> So I have conducted a few experiments that might fool whatever
> restriction there is on send more than one email at a time.
>
> One of the things I have done is to add a random number to the body and
> subject of each email just in case it looks for similar emails and and
> rejects them.......However this did not work.
>
> So it seems that if I try to send more than 5 emails in one go they
> will ALL be bounced back which if you are trying to deal with lots of
> customers is a pest.
>
> Any ideas anyone?
>

there is a limit on the outbound SMTP server - AFAICT based on qty sent over
time - i used to hit as part of a spam suppression scheme at around 8 to12
emails. Apparently this is part of spam suppression so i doubt NTL will
"fix" it.

i have my mail client set to "send immediately", which gets around the
problem since my typing slows it down.

if all else fails you could set up your own outbound mail server, or use an
alternate service?

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Regards

(E-Mail Removed) - replace xyz with ntl


 
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Joe Soap
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      09-19-2006, 10:17 PM
In response to what bobdydd <(E-Mail Removed)> posted in
news:(E-Mail Removed) ups.com:

> So it seems that if I try to send more than 5 emails in one go they
> will ALL be bounced back which if you are trying to deal with lots of
> customers is a pest.
>
> Any ideas anyone?



Install your own SMTP sever on your own machine. Try Argosoft.

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Joe Soap.
JUNK is stuff that you keep for 20 years,
then throw away a week before you need it.

 
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Bob Eager
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      09-19-2006, 10:44 PM
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:17:37 UTC, Joe Soap
<Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:

> In response to what bobdydd <(E-Mail Removed)> posted in
> news:(E-Mail Removed) ups.com:
>
> > So it seems that if I try to send more than 5 emails in one go they
> > will ALL be bounced back which if you are trying to deal with lots of
> > customers is a pest.
> >
> > Any ideas anyone?

>
> Install your own SMTP sever on your own machine. Try Argosoft.


Fine...IF the ISP doesn't block or transparently proxy the port. As
quite a few do.

(Mine doesn't, and I do run my own SMTP server for incoming and outgoing
mail; but not Argosoft, of course).
--
[ 7'ism - a condition by which the sufferer experiences an inability
to give concise answers, express reasoned argument or opinion.
Usually accompanied by silly noises and gestures - incurable, early
euthanasia recommended. ]

 
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Gizmo
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      09-19-2006, 11:16 PM

"Joe Soap" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in message
news:Xns9843ECF0927CCtityifvbdfgvbzdfdf@127.0.0.1. ..
> In response to what bobdydd <(E-Mail Removed)> posted in
> news:(E-Mail Removed) ups.com:
>
>> So it seems that if I try to send more than 5 emails in one go they
>> will ALL be bounced back which if you are trying to deal with lots of
>> customers is a pest.
>>
>> Any ideas anyone?

>
>
> Install your own SMTP sever on your own machine. Try Argosoft.


Says the "expert" on email


 
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Vanguard
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      09-20-2006, 02:15 AM
"bobdydd" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) ups.com...
> Hi All
>
> I am using NTL cable broadband (UK)
>
> I sometimes answer all my email first and the press send/receive to
> send up to 40 emails in one go. This causes every one of them to be
> rejected and bounced back to me.
>
> So I have conducted a few experiments that might fool whatever
> restriction there is on send more than one email at a time.
>
> One of the things I have done is to add a random number to the body
> and
> subject of each email just in case it looks for similar emails and
> and
> rejects them.......However this did not work.
>
> So it seems that if I try to send more than 5 emails in one go they
> will ALL be bounced back which if you are trying to deal with lots
> of
> customers is a pest.
>
> Any ideas anyone?
>



Stop using the same template in your mass mailings. Using the same
content, like a template, means the Bayes filters will find them all
alike and mark them as bulk mail (which may then be tagged as spam).

 
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