What else affect speed?

I just signed up with Bethere.co.uk for their 24meg service and am presently
pleased, I was told I should only expect about 10meg where I am - still
better than the Virginmedia/NTL speeds I'm getting from their 20meg
service - and a lot cheaper.

However, I was wondering what tweeks I could do to improve things - coz I'm
the sort of guy who'll put RedeX in his petrol before a long journey! One
thing I have noticed is that bethere supply two splitters, out of curiosity
I did a dozen speed tests (via speedtest.net) using each splitter and found
a 1meg difference between them! so, I decided to take this a step further.
The cable they supply that goes from the modem to the splitter looks very
thin and cheap, so I swapped that for a more robust cable, again I ran tests
and found an average extra 400kb using the better cable.

Now running tests every hour for a 12 hour period yesterday I now average
13,360kbps download and 1092kbps upload. for £18per month

as opposed to NTL's (20meg service) actually averaging 6744 download and 387
upload during the same period for £37 per month

I wonder what might happen with a different modem?

Ron

"Ron O'Brien" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I just signed up with Bethere.co.uk for their 24meg service and am
>presently pleased, I was told I should only expect about 10meg where I am -
>still better than the Virginmedia/NTL speeds I'm getting from their 20meg
>service - and a lot cheaper.
>
> However, I was wondering what tweeks I could do to improve things - coz
> I'm the sort of guy who'll put RedeX in his petrol before a long journey!
> One thing I have noticed is that bethere supply two splitters, out of
> curiosity I did a dozen speed tests (via speedtest.net) using each
> splitter and found a 1meg difference between them! so, I decided to take
> this a step further. The cable they supply that goes from the modem to the
> splitter looks very thin and cheap, so I swapped that for a more robust
> cable, again I ran tests and found an average extra 400kb using the better
> cable.
>
> Now running tests every hour for a 12 hour period yesterday I now average
> 13,360kbps download and 1092kbps upload. for £18per month
>
> as opposed to NTL's (20meg service) actually averaging 6744 download and
> 387 upload during the same period for £37 per month
>
> I wonder what might happen with a different modem?
>
> Ron
>

you could always 'tweak' your internal wiring, be aware the BT won't be too
happy with you if you touch their stuff
Also, dump the splitters and fit a dedicated adsl faceplate, as sold by
adslnation
http://dslzoneuk.net/socket.php
http://www.readman.dsl.pipex.com/oth...ecatwiring.htm

good luck, please post any results

"tony h" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
>
> you could always 'tweak' your internal wiring, be aware the BT won't be
> too happy with you if you touch their stuff
> Also, dump the splitters and fit a dedicated adsl faceplate, as sold by
> adslnation
> http://dslzoneuk.net/socket.php
> http://www.readman.dsl.pipex.com/oth...ecatwiring.htm
>
> good luck, please post any results
Thanks for that Tony, I'll look into those faceplates - better than a bit of
hanging cable with a 'lump' on the end!

The internal wiring is nonexistant, there is only the one box straight from
the outside wiring. my ADSL is on a Fax line, I thought I would opt for
using that line as it was re0wired to the pole just a year or so ago,
whereas the phone line has been in situ for around 23 years.

I'll post any significant differences

Ron

"Ron O'Brien" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Now running tests every hour for a 12 hour period yesterday I now average
> 13,360kbps download and 1092kbps upload. for £18per month
>
I wish I could get speeds like that, especially for that money!

> as opposed to NTL's (20meg service) actually averaging 6744 download and
> 387 upload during the same period for £37 per month
>
> I wonder what might happen with a different modem?

From what I have read the modem/router will make a difference though how you
find the best one is another matter!


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Michael Chare wrote:
> "Ron O'Brien" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>
>> Now running tests every hour for a 12 hour period yesterday I now
>> average 13,360kbps download and 1092kbps upload. for £18per month
>>
> I wish I could get speeds like that, especially for that money!
>

Now instead of moving to near the job (50s-70s) to the best school
catchment area (80s-00s), the kids will be moving to were the best
broadband speeds are ;-)

Location, location, location....

"Ron O'Brien" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I just signed up with Bethere.co.uk for their 24meg service and am
> presently pleased, I was told I should only expect about 10meg where I
> am - still better than the Virginmedia/NTL speeds I'm getting from their
> 20meg service - and a lot cheaper.
>
> However, I was wondering what tweeks I could do to improve things - coz
> I'm the sort of guy who'll put RedeX in his petrol before a long journey!

Well in that case I have some really good connecting wire to run between
your modem and the BT socket.
Its silver plated, orientated crystal copper alloy. Its only £15 per meter
if you want some.
I will even give it a quick dip in snake oil if you want for free.

Ron O'Brien wrote:

> I just signed up with Bethere.co.uk for their 24meg service and am
> presently pleased, I was told I should only expect about 10meg where I am
> - still better than the Virginmedia/NTL speeds I'm getting from their
> 20meg service - and a lot cheaper.
>
> However, I was wondering what tweeks I could do to improve things - coz
> I'm the sort of guy who'll put RedeX in his petrol before a long journey!
> One thing I have noticed is that bethere supply two splitters, out of
> curiosity I did a dozen speed tests (via speedtest.net) using each
> splitter and found a 1meg difference between them!

I would ignore the speed test results and look purely at sync speeds when
trying to tune your end of things. Bear in mind that disconnecting and
reconnecting at different times of day will result in different sync speeds
even with identical equipment. Also bear in mind that speedtest.net is
testing all the way from your premises out to the internet and thence to
speedtest.net's servers, so the tests you have done amount to little more
than random noise IMHO.

> so, I decided to take
> this a step further. The cable they supply that goes from the modem to the
> splitter looks very thin and cheap, so I swapped that for a more robust
> cable, again I ran tests and found an average extra 400kb using the better
> cable.

Have a look at dmt.modemhilfe.de. It will show you a profile of your sync
speed.

> I wonder what might happen with a different modem?

Your speed will probably decrease. Only certain chipsets will sync up with
Be's DSLAMs at high speeds, eg my BeBox syncs at 15.4M and my ZyXEL
P-660H-61 [AR7 chipset] syncs at 7.1M. Cisco and some Netgear routers are
known to play well, I'm sure there are others. ADSL2+ is more common in .au
so searching the whirlpool.net forums will yield further possible answers.

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"dennis@home" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I will even give it a quick dip in snake oil if you want for free.
>
I find gerbil fat is a better insulator!

Ron

"alexd" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I would ignore the speed test results and look purely at sync speeds when
> trying to tune your end of things. Bear in mind that disconnecting and
> reconnecting at different times of day will result in different sync
> speeds
> even with identical equipment. Also bear in mind that speedtest.net is
> testing all the way from your premises out to the internet and thence to
> speedtest.net's servers, so the tests you have done amount to little more
> than random noise IMHO.
>
Yes, I carried out my initial tests running averages across a time scale. I
have since carried out comparisons by running 3 tests one after the other,
then swapping the splitter and running another 3 tests so all done within 4
minutes. The results still showed about a 1meg difference. Where do I find /
how do I record my sync speed?

>
> Have a look at dmt.modemhilfe.de. It will show you a profile of your sync
> speed.
>
That site doesn't appear to exist anymore - as I can't read German, I'm not
sure where it is a permanent or temporary down time.

>
> Your speed will probably decrease. Only certain chipsets will sync up with
> Be's DSLAMs at high speeds, eg my BeBox syncs at 15.4M and my ZyXEL
> P-660H-61 [AR7 chipset] syncs at 7.1M. Cisco and some Netgear routers are
> known to play well, I'm sure there are others. ADSL2+ is more common in
> .au
> so searching the whirlpool.net forums will yield further possible answers.

I have a Belkin N1 ADSL modem/router I can lay my hands on, I might try it
at the weekend.

Ron

"The Natural Philosopher" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Now instead of moving to near the job (50s-70s) to the best school
> catchment area (80s-00s), the kids will be moving to were the best
> broadband speeds are ;-)
>
> Location, location, location....

My sister-in-law works at an extate agency and has already been asked about
broadband connection speeds a few times now!

I also saw a reference "good broadband" on a property in a Lincolnshire
village on rightmove.co.uk


Ron