Electrical convertor for my wireles router is extremely hot when in use.

Is this normal? I'm in the UKand have three things plugged into the
electrical socket on the wall. The first is the actual power supply adapter
of the router which is fine in terms of temperature. This power supply is
plugged into the a travel adapter convertor block and this is one that is
really hot...I cant touch the black area on of the convertor for more than a
few seconds. Its a brown travel adapter block thing Its what converts the
voltage or something tor the UK, I dont think it should be this hot right?
Although it only is hot on the back strip of the actual adapter and not all
of it is this hot. I guess the black part of it is covered in some kind of
coating to help reduce the temperature? But I'm still worried that it way
too hot as the black part cant be touched for more than a few seconds. The
travel adapter convertor is plugged into a socket convertor because UK uses
three inputs for the electrical socket rather than two like everywhere else.
The rotuer is a D Link 108ag wireless and probably from america. Its working
fine and the comp has been on 24/7 for three weeks now since getting the
router. But is it dangerous?

"Mohammed" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>The first is the actual power supply adapter
>of the router which is fine in terms of temperature.

That's fine, but what are the input ratings for this wall wart? It
might be universal (90-270V or some such) in which case you don't need
the 'converter', but it's probably just a wall wart with 110V input
and "12V" output...

>plugged into the a travel adapter convertor block and this is one that is
>really hot.

It depends on what kind of "converter block" you have, there are two
types, and they are _not_ interchangable:

1) A diode that only gives you one half-cycle of 220V power, which is
roughly equivalent to 110V power for resistive loads. This is only
suitable for hair dryers, lights, and resistance heaters.

2) A small transformer that converts from 220VAC to 110VAC, but is
usually only good for a very low-power device. Of course, if you have
a 12V, 1A power supply, that's only about a 25 watt load, which should
be fine.

What do the labels on your "converter block" say? I'd say if anything
runs at "too hot to touch" it's potentially dangerous and should be
fixed (probably replacing it with the appropriate device).

You could also ask D-Link for a country-appropriate converter, or stop
by your local electronics supply store (take your existing converter
and AP) and see if they can find a substitute.

> travel adapter convertor is plugged into a socket convertor because UK uses
> three inputs for the electrical socket rather than two like everywhere else.

Loads of places have provision for 3 connectors, it's for the earth
which is essential with devices which can be made live. Pretty much
anything metal. It also provides a safety feature since until the earth
gate is opened, the live and neutral outlets are protected by a shutter.

I wouldn't worry about it getting hot, just check that everything is
suited to the right voltage.

David.

On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 12:29:59 GMT, "Mohammed"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Is this normal? I'm in the UKand have three things plugged into the
>electrical socket on the wall. The first is the actual power supply adapter
>of the router which is fine in terms of temperature. This power supply is
>plugged into the a travel adapter convertor block and this is one that is
>really hot...
(...)
>The rotuer is a D Link 108ag wireless and probably from america. Its working
>fine and the comp has been on 24/7 for three weeks now since getting the
>router. But is it dangerous?

Yes, it's going to start a fire. The "converter" is a diode or
dropping resistor. It's not designed to run transformers or switching
power supplies.

The product data sheet does not disclose if the DLink 108ag DI-624S
http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=390
will run directly on 220VAC without a "converter". Most of the
switching power supplies will do this. Look on the label on the DLink
power supply and see if it will run on 220VAC. It will say something
like:
100-240VAC - 50-60Hz
If so, it should work directly on UK power. Otherwise, I suggest you
either:
1. Find a 5VDC 2.5A power adapter that will run on UK power and will
fit the router.
2. Purchase a transformer voltage converter for the purpose. They're
big, heavy, ugly, overpriced, but safe. Something like this:
http://www.lashen.com/vendors/TRV/Default.asp





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Ok I decided to order this from Amazon to replace the existing convertor im
currently using which might be faulty. I did get it with the router though.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...Fencoding=UTF8

Will that one be ok with the router?

On the power supply of the router it says:
INPUT 100-120V-0.5A 50-60HZ
OUTPUT: +5.0V---3A

Its not gonna work without the convertor right?

I'm relaly concerned about the temperature the one I ordered doesnt even
have a black strip thing either.


"Mohammed" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:b5dXe.41669$(E-Mail Removed) k...
> Is this normal? I'm in the UKand have three things plugged into the
> electrical socket on the wall. The first is the actual power supply
> adapter of the router which is fine in terms of temperature. This power
> supply is plugged into the a travel adapter convertor block and this is
> one that is really hot...I cant touch the black area on of the convertor
> for more than a few seconds. Its a brown travel adapter block thing Its
> what converts the voltage or something tor the UK, I dont think it should
> be this hot right? Although it only is hot on the back strip of the actual
> adapter and not all of it is this hot. I guess the black part of it is
> covered in some kind of coating to help reduce the temperature? But I'm
> still worried that it way too hot as the black part cant be touched for
> more than a few seconds. The travel adapter convertor is plugged into a
> socket convertor because UK uses three inputs for the electrical socket
> rather than two like everywhere else.
> The rotuer is a D Link 108ag wireless and probably from america. Its
> working fine and the comp has been on 24/7 for three weeks now since
> getting the router. But is it dangerous?
>

Ok I decided to order this from Amazon to replace the existing convertor im
currently using which might be faulty. I did get it with the router though.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...Fencoding=UTF8

Will that one be ok with the router?

On the power supply of the router it says:
INPUT 100-120V-0.5A 50-60HZ
OUTPUT: +5.0V---3A

Its not gonna work without the convertor right?

I'm relaly concerned about the temperature the one I ordered doesnt even
have a black strip thing either.


"Mohammed" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:b5dXe.41669$(E-Mail Removed) k...
> Is this normal? I'm in the UKand have three things plugged into the
> electrical socket on the wall. The first is the actual power supply
> adapter of the router which is fine in terms of temperature. This power
> supply is plugged into the a travel adapter convertor block and this is
> one that is really hot...I cant touch the black area on of the convertor
> for more than a few seconds. Its a brown travel adapter block thing Its
> what converts the voltage or something tor the UK, I dont think it should
> be this hot right? Although it only is hot on the back strip of the actual
> adapter and not all of it is this hot. I guess the black part of it is
> covered in some kind of coating to help reduce the temperature? But I'm
> still worried that it way too hot as the black part cant be touched for
> more than a few seconds. The travel adapter convertor is plugged into a
> socket convertor because UK uses three inputs for the electrical socket
> rather than two like everywhere else.
> The rotuer is a D Link 108ag wireless and probably from america. Its
> working fine and the comp has been on 24/7 for three weeks now since
> getting the router. But is it dangerous?
>

"Mohammed" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:b5dXe.41669$(E-Mail Removed) k...
> Is this normal? I'm in the UKand have three things plugged into the
> electrical socket on the wall. The first is the actual power supply
> adapter of the router which is fine in terms of temperature. This power
> supply is plugged into the a travel adapter convertor block and this is
> one that is really hot...I cant touch the black area on of the convertor
> for more than a few seconds. Its a brown travel adapter block thing Its
> what converts the voltage or something tor the UK, I dont think it should
> be this hot right? Although it only is hot on the back strip of the actual
> adapter and not all of it is this hot. I guess the black part of it is
> covered in some kind of coating to help reduce the temperature? But I'm
> still worried that it way too hot as the black part cant be touched for
> more than a few seconds. The travel adapter convertor is plugged into a
> socket convertor because UK uses three inputs for the electrical socket
> rather than two like everywhere else.
> The rotuer is a D Link 108ag wireless and probably from america. Its
> working fine and the comp has been on 24/7 for three weeks now since
> getting the router. But is it dangerous?
>

On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 23:03:57 GMT, "Mohammed"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Ok I decided to order this from Amazon to replace the existing convertor im
>currently using which might be faulty. I did get it with the router though.
>http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...Fencoding=UTF8
>
>Will that one be ok with the router?

No. That Belkin "converter" is just another diode or resitor.
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProdu...duct_Id=135430
It will get just as hot as your existing converter. Get a transformer
or a replacement UK 220V 5V 2.5A power supply.

>On the power supply of the router it says:
>INPUT 100-120V-0.5A 50-60HZ
>OUTPUT: +5.0V---3A
>
>Its not gonna work without the convertor right?

Correct. That will NOT work on 220VAC. Sorry.

>I'm relaly concerned about the temperature the one I ordered doesnt even
>have a black strip thing either.

A what?


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> Ok I decided to order this from Amazon to replace the existing convertor im
> currently using which might be faulty. I did get it with the router though.
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...Fencoding=UTF8
>
> Will that one be ok with the router?
>
> On the power supply of the router it says:
> INPUT 100-120V-0.5A 50-60HZ
> OUTPUT: +5.0V---3A

You will definitely still need the converter. If you're in the UK, go
to Maplin and buy a switched mode PSU, sorry I didn't pay attention to
what you had originally but here are some choices.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/search.aspx?...Name=Switched%
20Mode&FromMenu=y&doy=19m9

There are others if you want a transformer based solution, I also like
this type as then you can take it anywhere and it has replaceable plug
bits

http://www.maplin.co.uk/search.aspx?MenuNo=1277
&MenuName=Traveller+Adaptors+Range&worldid=7&FromM enu=y&doy=19m9

Maplin are either mail order or you can go to a shop.

David.

Mohammed,

The short answer is NO. The kind of "converter" that you are using or
intending to use is totally unsuitable for use with the plug pack type of
power supply that you have with your router.

Electrically, the power supply is designed for alternating current as
supplied from the power outlet. The "converter" effectively chops the mains
voltage from the power outlet into 1/2 and by doing so, makes it more direct
current (DC) rather than alternating current (AC) as required by the router
power supply.

Continued use of such converters will damage the existing power supply by
supplying the direct current to its internal transformer causing excessive
overheating and no doubt, ultimately, a fire. The are designed for use with
some electric shavers and small table lamps only. Note that their use in
many countries is prohibited because of the safety risks that you are
encountering.

Jeff and other above have advised correctly that you obtain a new and
correct power supply for the router and do not use the existing power supply
with a "converter". It is a very dangerous practice to continue. You are
very lucky that you have not caused a serious fire by now with its use.

Again, DO NOT USE A "CONVERTER" WITH THE EXISTING POWER SUPPLY.

It is far too dangerous.

Peter

"Mohammed" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:cpmXe.77441$(E-Mail Removed) k...
> Ok I decided to order this from Amazon to replace the existing convertor
im
> currently using which might be faulty. I did get it with the router
though.
>
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...8-5307808?%5Fe
ncoding=UTF8
>
> Will that one be ok with the router?
>
> On the power supply of the router it says:
> INPUT 100-120V-0.5A 50-60HZ
> OUTPUT: +5.0V---3A
>
> Its not gonna work without the convertor right?
>
> I'm relaly concerned about the temperature the one I ordered doesnt even
> have a black strip thing either.
>
>
> "Mohammed" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:b5dXe.41669$(E-Mail Removed) k...
> > Is this normal? I'm in the UKand have three things plugged into the
> > electrical socket on the wall. The first is the actual power supply
> > adapter of the router which is fine in terms of temperature. This power
> > supply is plugged into the a travel adapter convertor block and this is
> > one that is really hot...I cant touch the black area on of the convertor
> > for more than a few seconds. Its a brown travel adapter block thing Its
> > what converts the voltage or something tor the UK, I dont think it
should
> > be this hot right? Although it only is hot on the back strip of the
actual
> > adapter and not all of it is this hot. I guess the black part of it is
> > covered in some kind of coating to help reduce the temperature? But I'm
> > still worried that it way too hot as the black part cant be touched for
> > more than a few seconds. The travel adapter convertor is plugged into a
> > socket convertor because UK uses three inputs for the electrical socket
> > rather than two like everywhere else.
> > The rotuer is a D Link 108ag wireless and probably from america. Its
> > working fine and the comp has been on 24/7 for three weeks now since
> > getting the router. But is it dangerous?
> >
>
> "Mohammed" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:b5dXe.41669$(E-Mail Removed) k...
> > Is this normal? I'm in the UKand have three things plugged into the
> > electrical socket on the wall. The first is the actual power supply
> > adapter of the router which is fine in terms of temperature. This power
> > supply is plugged into the a travel adapter convertor block and this is
> > one that is really hot...I cant touch the black area on of the convertor
> > for more than a few seconds. Its a brown travel adapter block thing Its
> > what converts the voltage or something tor the UK, I dont think it
should
> > be this hot right? Although it only is hot on the back strip of the
actual
> > adapter and not all of it is this hot. I guess the black part of it is
> > covered in some kind of coating to help reduce the temperature? But I'm
> > still worried that it way too hot as the black part cant be touched for
> > more than a few seconds. The travel adapter convertor is plugged into a
> > socket convertor because UK uses three inputs for the electrical socket
> > rather than two like everywhere else.
> > The rotuer is a D Link 108ag wireless and probably from america. Its
> > working fine and the comp has been on 24/7 for three weeks now since
> > getting the router. But is it dangerous?
> >
>
>

I dont understand why D-Link would supply this convertor with the router if
it was not suitable?
You say it will damage it but surely they would have known this? It is
extremely hot on the black area of the convertor though maybe its just
faulty?


"Pierre" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:dgm5h4$u4p$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Mohammed,
>
> The short answer is NO. The kind of "converter" that you are using or
> intending to use is totally unsuitable for use with the plug pack type of
> power supply that you have with your router.
>
> Electrically, the power supply is designed for alternating current as
> supplied from the power outlet. The "converter" effectively chops the
> mains
> voltage from the power outlet into 1/2 and by doing so, makes it more
> direct
> current (DC) rather than alternating current (AC) as required by the
> router
> power supply.
>
> Continued use of such converters will damage the existing power supply by
> supplying the direct current to its internal transformer causing excessive
> overheating and no doubt, ultimately, a fire. The are designed for use
> with
> some electric shavers and small table lamps only. Note that their use in
> many countries is prohibited because of the safety risks that you are
> encountering.
>
> Jeff and other above have advised correctly that you obtain a new and
> correct power supply for the router and do not use the existing power
> supply
> with a "converter". It is a very dangerous practice to continue. You are
> very lucky that you have not caused a serious fire by now with its use.
>
> Again, DO NOT USE A "CONVERTER" WITH THE EXISTING POWER SUPPLY.
>
> It is far too dangerous.
>
> Peter
>
> "Mohammed" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:cpmXe.77441$(E-Mail Removed) k...
>> Ok I decided to order this from Amazon to replace the existing convertor
> im
>> currently using which might be faulty. I did get it with the router
> though.
>>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...8-5307808?%5Fe
> ncoding=UTF8
>>
>> Will that one be ok with the router?
>>
>> On the power supply of the router it says:
>> INPUT 100-120V-0.5A 50-60HZ
>> OUTPUT: +5.0V---3A
>>
>> Its not gonna work without the convertor right?
>>
>> I'm relaly concerned about the temperature the one I ordered doesnt even
>> have a black strip thing either.
>>
>>
>> "Mohammed" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:b5dXe.41669$(E-Mail Removed) k...
>> > Is this normal? I'm in the UKand have three things plugged into the
>> > electrical socket on the wall. The first is the actual power supply
>> > adapter of the router which is fine in terms of temperature. This power
>> > supply is plugged into the a travel adapter convertor block and this is
>> > one that is really hot...I cant touch the black area on of the
>> > convertor
>> > for more than a few seconds. Its a brown travel adapter block thing Its
>> > what converts the voltage or something tor the UK, I dont think it
> should
>> > be this hot right? Although it only is hot on the back strip of the
> actual
>> > adapter and not all of it is this hot. I guess the black part of it is
>> > covered in some kind of coating to help reduce the temperature? But I'm
>> > still worried that it way too hot as the black part cant be touched for
>> > more than a few seconds. The travel adapter convertor is plugged into a
>> > socket convertor because UK uses three inputs for the electrical socket
>> > rather than two like everywhere else.
>> > The rotuer is a D Link 108ag wireless and probably from america. Its
>> > working fine and the comp has been on 24/7 for three weeks now since
>> > getting the router. But is it dangerous?
>> >
>>
>> "Mohammed" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:b5dXe.41669$(E-Mail Removed) k...
>> > Is this normal? I'm in the UKand have three things plugged into the
>> > electrical socket on the wall. The first is the actual power supply
>> > adapter of the router which is fine in terms of temperature. This power
>> > supply is plugged into the a travel adapter convertor block and this is
>> > one that is really hot...I cant touch the black area on of the
>> > convertor
>> > for more than a few seconds. Its a brown travel adapter block thing Its
>> > what converts the voltage or something tor the UK, I dont think it
> should
>> > be this hot right? Although it only is hot on the back strip of the
> actual
>> > adapter and not all of it is this hot. I guess the black part of it is
>> > covered in some kind of coating to help reduce the temperature? But I'm
>> > still worried that it way too hot as the black part cant be touched for
>> > more than a few seconds. The travel adapter convertor is plugged into a
>> > socket convertor because UK uses three inputs for the electrical socket
>> > rather than two like everywhere else.
>> > The rotuer is a D Link 108ag wireless and probably from america. Its
>> > working fine and the comp has been on 24/7 for three weeks now since
>> > getting the router. But is it dangerous?
>> >
>>
>>
>
>