Eclipse ADSL - does it include usenet?

I was looking at the Eclipse Flex500 spec. (£18/mth)
but I don't see any mention of usenet. Do they provide access to text?
binaries? If so are the binaries usable (completeness/retention)?

They also say it's truly unlimited connection - is this true?
I would expect to use 20-30GB/mth, mainly P2P, usenet.

Any other opinions on Eclipse?

Webspace is only 20MB, but more important for me is do they limit bandwidth
usage on it? My old 20MB demon site regularly hit Demon's 60MB/day limits
so I wouldn't want too low a ceiling.

if wrote:
> I was looking at the Eclipse Flex500 spec. (£18/mth)
> but I don't see any mention of usenet. Do they provide access to text?
> binaries? If so are the binaries usable (completeness/retention)?
>
> They also say it's truly unlimited connection - is this true?
> I would expect to use 20-30GB/mth, mainly P2P, usenet.
>
> Any other opinions on Eclipse?
>
> Webspace is only 20MB, but more important for me is do they limit
> bandwidth usage on it? My old 20MB demon site regularly hit Demon's
> 60MB/day limits so I wouldn't want too low a ceiling.

I think you'll find, Eclipse don't have any news service.
--
Adrian A

if wrote:
> I was looking at the Eclipse Flex500 spec. (£18/mth)
> but I don't see any mention of usenet. Do they provide access to text?
> binaries? If so are the binaries usable (completeness/retention)?

Eclipse provide Usenet using Giganews (IIRC), you get a maximum of 2
concurrent connections that are limited to about 30kB/sec. You get all
the standard Giganews groups.

>
> They also say it's truly unlimited connection - is this true?
> I would expect to use 20-30GB/mth, mainly P2P, usenet.

Yes, truly unlimited, no port blocking.

>
> Any other opinions on Eclipse?

Generally very good, only major problem has been a very recent (Monday
afternoon to Tuesday evening) outage that affected a large percentage of
their broadband customers due to some sort of software issue with their
ADSL platform (Redback) and BT's end. They had their end fixed
overnight, but the type of outage led to hung L2TP sessions across BT's
network that had to be cleared manually by BT and this took some time to
be noticed and diagnosed. Only real complaint is that customer contact
was poor during the outage, but I gather that their normal daily tech
support call quantity rose from 2,000 a day to more than 73,000 a day
and they were totally swamped. I think they've learned a big lesson
though, I got a 'sorry' email this morning and they are promising more
call capacity and better and more frequent status page updates. At least
I could read it using my Palm and GPRS via my mobile!

In all honesty, they are one of the best ISPs I know of, you could have
a look at the status pages on the Eclipse web site at:

http://www.eclipse.net.uk/index.cfm?=status

and look at the type and frequency of problems and see how you feel
about them. Eclipse contracts are for one month BTW.

>
> Webspace is only 20MB, but more important for me is do they limit bandwidth
> usage on it? My old 20MB demon site regularly hit Demon's 60MB/day limits
> so I wouldn't want too low a ceiling.
>

I don't know this one for sure. There is bound to be some bandwidth
limit, but offhand I don't know what it is.

--

Brian Morrison

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if wrote

> I was looking at the Eclipse Flex500 spec. (£18/mth)
> but I don't see any mention of usenet. Do they provide access to text?
> binaries? If so are the binaries usable (completeness/retention)?
>

Eclipse do have a news server, they also offer bandwidth limited access
to Giganews.


> They also say it's truly unlimited connection - is this true?
> I would expect to use 20-30GB/mth, mainly P2P, usenet.

It is unlimited.


> Any other opinions on Eclipse?

Thought of asking Eclipse?

> Webspace is only 20MB, but more important for me is do they limit bandwidth
> usage on it? My old 20MB demon site regularly hit Demon's 60MB/day limits
> so I wouldn't want too low a ceiling.
>
>

if <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I was looking at the Eclipse Flex500 spec. (£18/mth)
> but I don't see any mention of usenet. Do they provide access to text?
> binaries? If so are the binaries usable (completeness/retention)?

As the others say, it is Giganews supply, two connections of 15k each. I
see over 100,000 groups listed here though.

> They also say it's truly unlimited connection - is this true?
> I would expect to use 20-30GB/mth, mainly P2P, usenet.

Yup.

> Any other opinions on Eclipse?

Apart from the recent failure, none, I've only been with them a couple
of weeks (how's your luck eh?)

> Webspace is only 20MB, but more important for me is do they limit bandwidth
> usage on it? My old 20MB demon site regularly hit Demon's 60MB/day limits
> so I wouldn't want too low a ceiling.

No, they have no limits at all, none, not even any of the port
restrictions that other ISPs are noted for (PlusNet!)

I actually wasn't bothered about the 20MB web space, as I now have my
own web server running here, which is why I moved from Wanadoo in the
first place (their web uploading is pants). You can also get a fixed IP
address too (or more than one if you need it!).

--
Andy Hewitt ** FAF#1, (Ex-OSOS#5) - FJ1200 ABS
Windows free zone (Mac G5 Dual Processor)
<http://andyhewitt.webhop.net/>
(updated Nov. 2005)

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Adrian says...
> if wrote:
> > I was looking at the Eclipse Flex500 spec. (£18/mth)
> > but I don't see any mention of usenet. Do they provide access to text?
> > binaries? If so are the binaries usable (completeness/retention)?
> >
> > They also say it's truly unlimited connection - is this true?
> > I would expect to use 20-30GB/mth, mainly P2P, usenet.
> >
> > Any other opinions on Eclipse?
> >
> > Webspace is only 20MB, but more important for me is do they limit
> > bandwidth usage on it? My old 20MB demon site regularly hit Demon's
> > 60MB/day limits so I wouldn't want too low a ceiling.
>
> I think you'll find, Eclipse don't have any news service.
>
I thik you haven't got a clue (check my headers)

It's provided by Giganews

FR

Flying Rat wrote:
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Adrian says...
>> if wrote:
>>> I was looking at the Eclipse Flex500 spec. (£18/mth)
>>> but I don't see any mention of usenet. Do they provide access to
>>> text? binaries? If so are the binaries usable
>>> (completeness/retention)?
>>>
>>> They also say it's truly unlimited connection - is this true?
>>> I would expect to use 20-30GB/mth, mainly P2P, usenet.
>>>
>>> Any other opinions on Eclipse?
>>>
>>> Webspace is only 20MB, but more important for me is do they limit
>>> bandwidth usage on it? My old 20MB demon site regularly hit Demon's
>>> 60MB/day limits so I wouldn't want too low a ceiling.
>>
>> I think you'll find, Eclipse don't have any news service.
>>
> I thik you haven't got a clue (check my headers)
>
> It's provided by Giganews
>
> FR

I realise now I got muddled up, apologies.
--
Adrian A

In article <438631be$0$57277$(E-Mail Removed) ews.net>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...

> > Any other opinions on Eclipse?
>
> Thought of asking Eclipse?

Yes, I'm sure Eclipse will be able to provide a completely unbiased and
therefore valuable opinion of themselves in regards to their services...

On 25 Nov 2005 10:01, "Adrian" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>>> I think you'll find, Eclipse don't have any news service.

>I realise now I got muddled up, apologies.

Some time back there was debate about whether offering news was 'core' to
being an ISP and that Eclipse had no news service (at that time). It was
a while ago, but unless one is a customer, or can find their way around a
website (and the Eclipse site was given some heavy criticism a while ago,
too, for being inaccessible or depending on Flash etc) then missing their
'fine print' for what is included, what restrictions might be in place or
any other downsides, is something for which one can be forgiven, IMO, and
for that reason, I don't think any apology is really necessary :-) Peter