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Hello you pros

Can anyone help me to configure my server?

I have 1 2003 Server (standard edition) and several XP pro clients.

I am setting up a small business network and trying to go all wireless. The
kit I am using is a Netgear DG834G Wireless ADSL firewall router and PCI
wireless NICs.

I would like to set up the server as a domain controller and have all the XP
clients authenticate to the server to access network resources and get
access to the internet.

I have the server set up with a static IP address I have purchased from my
ISP. The network
settings on the server are as follows: -

IP address 195.137.89.162
Subnet mask 255.255.255.252
Gateway 195.137.89.161

DNS 1 194.106.56.6
DNS 2 194.106.33.42

Can I have the server set up with these settings and issue IP details to the
clients using DHCP? Will I have to set up a proxy server to give the
clients access to the internet?

Its the first time I've tried this so I would be grateful for any help.

thanks

ed

are you saying that the server that is to be your domain controller has a
public address directly on the internet? this is very very bad.


"Edsa" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hello you pros
>
> Can anyone help me to configure my server?
>
> I have 1 2003 Server (standard edition) and several XP pro clients.
>
> I am setting up a small business network and trying to go all wireless.
> The kit I am using is a Netgear DG834G Wireless ADSL firewall router and
> PCI wireless NICs.
>
> I would like to set up the server as a domain controller and have all the
> XP clients authenticate to the server to access network resources and get
> access to the internet.
>
> I have the server set up with a static IP address I have purchased from my
> ISP. The network
> settings on the server are as follows: -
>
> IP address 195.137.89.162
> Subnet mask 255.255.255.252
> Gateway 195.137.89.161
>
> DNS 1 194.106.56.6
> DNS 2 194.106.33.42
>
> Can I have the server set up with these settings and issue IP details to
> the
> clients using DHCP? Will I have to set up a proxy server to give the
> clients access to the internet?
>
> Its the first time I've tried this so I would be grateful for any help.
>
> thanks
>
> ed
>
>

Yes I know. I havn't set the server up yet. I have just recieved the
static address from my ISP. It would be good if you could help me configure
the server in the most secure way.


<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> are you saying that the server that is to be your domain controller has a
> public address directly on the internet? this is very very bad.
>
>
> "Edsa" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hello you pros
>>
>> Can anyone help me to configure my server?
>>
>> I have 1 2003 Server (standard edition) and several XP pro clients.
>>
>> I am setting up a small business network and trying to go all wireless.
>> The kit I am using is a Netgear DG834G Wireless ADSL firewall router and
>> PCI wireless NICs.
>>
>> I would like to set up the server as a domain controller and have all the
>> XP clients authenticate to the server to access network resources and get
>> access to the internet.
>>
>> I have the server set up with a static IP address I have purchased from
>> my ISP. The network
>> settings on the server are as follows: -
>>
>> IP address 195.137.89.162
>> Subnet mask 255.255.255.252
>> Gateway 195.137.89.161
>>
>> DNS 1 194.106.56.6
>> DNS 2 194.106.33.42
>>
>> Can I have the server set up with these settings and issue IP details to
>> the
>> clients using DHCP? Will I have to set up a proxy server to give the
>> clients access to the internet?
>>
>> Its the first time I've tried this so I would be grateful for any help.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> ed
>>
>>
>
>

youll want to make sure your router (netgear, linksys, etc...) can do NAT
(most will).
assign the public address to your router. assign a private address to your
server. use dhcp to hand out private addresses to your network clients,
using the private address of the router as the default gateway. understand
that your router will have 2 addresses: one that the public sees, and one
that your LAN will see.


"Edsa" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Yes I know. I havn't set the server up yet. I have just recieved the
> static address from my ISP. It would be good if you could help me
> configure the server in the most secure way.
>
>
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> are you saying that the server that is to be your domain controller has a
>> public address directly on the internet? this is very very bad.
>>
>>
>> "Edsa" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Hello you pros
>>>
>>> Can anyone help me to configure my server?
>>>
>>> I have 1 2003 Server (standard edition) and several XP pro clients.
>>>
>>> I am setting up a small business network and trying to go all wireless.
>>> The kit I am using is a Netgear DG834G Wireless ADSL firewall router and
>>> PCI wireless NICs.
>>>
>>> I would like to set up the server as a domain controller and have all
>>> the XP clients authenticate to the server to access network resources
>>> and get access to the internet.
>>>
>>> I have the server set up with a static IP address I have purchased from
>>> my ISP. The network
>>> settings on the server are as follows: -
>>>
>>> IP address 195.137.89.162
>>> Subnet mask 255.255.255.252
>>> Gateway 195.137.89.161
>>>
>>> DNS 1 194.106.56.6
>>> DNS 2 194.106.33.42
>>>
>>> Can I have the server set up with these settings and issue IP details to
>>> the
>>> clients using DHCP? Will I have to set up a proxy server to give the
>>> clients access to the internet?
>>>
>>> Its the first time I've tried this so I would be grateful for any help.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> ed
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Before you get off in the wrong directrion.......

The ISP's Address they gave you goes on the Internet side of the
DG834G,...*not* the Server. The DG834G should have the DHCP disabled and
you want to use DHCP on the Server instead so that it gives the addresses
out to the Client. the Server will have a static Private LAN address just as
the other clients will.

You could use the DG834G for DHCP but it is not flexable and suitable for
business use,...they were designed for home users in a very simplified
environment.


--

Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com


"Edsa" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Yes I know. I havn't set the server up yet. I have just recieved the
> static address from my ISP. It would be good if you could help me
configure
> the server in the most secure way.
>
>
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > are you saying that the server that is to be your domain controller has
a
> > public address directly on the internet? this is very very bad.
> >
> >
> > "Edsa" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> Hello you pros
> >>
> >> Can anyone help me to configure my server?
> >>
> >> I have 1 2003 Server (standard edition) and several XP pro clients.
> >>
> >> I am setting up a small business network and trying to go all wireless.
> >> The kit I am using is a Netgear DG834G Wireless ADSL firewall router
and
> >> PCI wireless NICs.
> >>
> >> I would like to set up the server as a domain controller and have all
the
> >> XP clients authenticate to the server to access network resources and
get
> >> access to the internet.
> >>
> >> I have the server set up with a static IP address I have purchased from
> >> my ISP. The network
> >> settings on the server are as follows: -
> >>
> >> IP address 195.137.89.162
> >> Subnet mask 255.255.255.252
> >> Gateway 195.137.89.161
> >>
> >> DNS 1 194.106.56.6
> >> DNS 2 194.106.33.42
> >>
> >> Can I have the server set up with these settings and issue IP details
to
> >> the
> >> clients using DHCP? Will I have to set up a proxy server to give the
> >> clients access to the internet?
> >>
> >> Its the first time I've tried this so I would be grateful for any help.
> >>
> >> thanks
> >>
> >> ed
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

ok thanks for the tips, Ill give it a try.
"Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Before you get off in the wrong directrion.......
>
> The ISP's Address they gave you goes on the Internet side of the
> DG834G,...*not* the Server. The DG834G should have the DHCP disabled and
> you want to use DHCP on the Server instead so that it gives the addresses
> out to the Client. the Server will have a static Private LAN address just
> as
> the other clients will.
>
> You could use the DG834G for DHCP but it is not flexable and suitable for
> business use,...they were designed for home users in a very simplified
> environment.
>
>
> --
>
> Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
> www.wandtv.com
>
>
> "Edsa" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Yes I know. I havn't set the server up yet. I have just recieved the
>> static address from my ISP. It would be good if you could help me
> configure
>> the server in the most secure way.
>>
>>
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > are you saying that the server that is to be your domain controller has
> a
>> > public address directly on the internet? this is very very bad.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Edsa" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> Hello you pros
>> >>
>> >> Can anyone help me to configure my server?
>> >>
>> >> I have 1 2003 Server (standard edition) and several XP pro clients.
>> >>
>> >> I am setting up a small business network and trying to go all
>> >> wireless.
>> >> The kit I am using is a Netgear DG834G Wireless ADSL firewall router
> and
>> >> PCI wireless NICs.
>> >>
>> >> I would like to set up the server as a domain controller and have all
> the
>> >> XP clients authenticate to the server to access network resources and
> get
>> >> access to the internet.
>> >>
>> >> I have the server set up with a static IP address I have purchased
>> >> from
>> >> my ISP. The network
>> >> settings on the server are as follows: -
>> >>
>> >> IP address 195.137.89.162
>> >> Subnet mask 255.255.255.252
>> >> Gateway 195.137.89.161
>> >>
>> >> DNS 1 194.106.56.6
>> >> DNS 2 194.106.33.42
>> >>
>> >> Can I have the server set up with these settings and issue IP details
> to
>> >> the
>> >> clients using DHCP? Will I have to set up a proxy server to give the
>> >> clients access to the internet?
>> >>
>> >> Its the first time I've tried this so I would be grateful for any
>> >> help.
>> >>
>> >> thanks
>> >>
>> >> ed
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

phillip.... check out my "catch-all dns" question


"Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Before you get off in the wrong directrion.......
>
> The ISP's Address they gave you goes on the Internet side of the
> DG834G,...*not* the Server. The DG834G should have the DHCP disabled and
> you want to use DHCP on the Server instead so that it gives the addresses
> out to the Client. the Server will have a static Private LAN address just
> as
> the other clients will.
>
> You could use the DG834G for DHCP but it is not flexable and suitable for
> business use,...they were designed for home users in a very simplified
> environment.
>
>
> --
>
> Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
> www.wandtv.com
>
>
> "Edsa" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Yes I know. I havn't set the server up yet. I have just recieved the
>> static address from my ISP. It would be good if you could help me
> configure
>> the server in the most secure way.
>>
>>
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > are you saying that the server that is to be your domain controller has
> a
>> > public address directly on the internet? this is very very bad.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Edsa" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> Hello you pros
>> >>
>> >> Can anyone help me to configure my server?
>> >>
>> >> I have 1 2003 Server (standard edition) and several XP pro clients.
>> >>
>> >> I am setting up a small business network and trying to go all
>> >> wireless.
>> >> The kit I am using is a Netgear DG834G Wireless ADSL firewall router
> and
>> >> PCI wireless NICs.
>> >>
>> >> I would like to set up the server as a domain controller and have all
> the
>> >> XP clients authenticate to the server to access network resources and
> get
>> >> access to the internet.
>> >>
>> >> I have the server set up with a static IP address I have purchased
>> >> from
>> >> my ISP. The network
>> >> settings on the server are as follows: -
>> >>
>> >> IP address 195.137.89.162
>> >> Subnet mask 255.255.255.252
>> >> Gateway 195.137.89.161
>> >>
>> >> DNS 1 194.106.56.6
>> >> DNS 2 194.106.33.42
>> >>
>> >> Can I have the server set up with these settings and issue IP details
> to
>> >> the
>> >> clients using DHCP? Will I have to set up a proxy server to give the
>> >> clients access to the internet?
>> >>
>> >> Its the first time I've tried this so I would be grateful for any
>> >> help.
>> >>
>> >> thanks
>> >>
>> >> ed
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

It is not only bad but simply would not work - server and clien
machines will end up in different subnets

You need to give public IP to a router. The LAN address of route
will be something like 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1

You should put switch or hub for connecting all machines and LAN por
of your router (i would recommend at least one machine - server - b
wired; your router might already have at least 4 LAN ports - connec
to one of them)

To domain controller you give static IP 192.168.1.2 with defaul
gateway 192.168.1.1. Subnet mask 255.255.255.0 and DNS 192.168.1.1

You setup your domain controller as DHCP server in 192.168.1.0/2
subnet: the subnet mask is 255.255.255.0. Each of XP bxes will be
DHCP client and will be assigned with dynamic IP in LAN subnet

This should be enough

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> phillip.... check out my "catch-all dns" question

I don't know anything about doing that with DNS. I only use DNS for the AD
requirement,...I never touch it beyond that.

--

Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com

thanks for all the help you guys its working great.

"vadimk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> It is not only bad but simply would not work - server and client
> machines will end up in different subnets.
>
> You need to give public IP to a router. The LAN address of router
> will be something like 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1.
>
> You should put switch or hub for connecting all machines and LAN port
> of your router (i would recommend at least one machine - server - be
> wired; your router might already have at least 4 LAN ports - connect
> to one of them).
>
> To domain controller you give static IP 192.168.1.2 with default
> gateway 192.168.1.1. Subnet mask 255.255.255.0 and DNS 192.168.1.1.
>
> You setup your domain controller as DHCP server in 192.168.1.0/24
> subnet: the subnet mask is 255.255.255.0. Each of XP bxes will be a
> DHCP client and will be assigned with dynamic IP in LAN subnet.
>
> This should be enough.
>