easy CAL Question

My company is in the process of being sold. Our current parent company holds
all our licenses for Servers, workstations and office. I am trying to put
together a list of licenses and CALs required if we found ourselves in a
position that we had to purchase our own Licenses.

We have a couple file servers, and I understand that we require a CAL for
every person who accesses theses servers.
But I have another server that handles DHCP and FTP (Serve-U by RhinoSoft).
Do I needs CALs for that server? I already paid RhinoSoft for license for
the FTP server software, do I need to pay Microsoft to? What about DHCP, do
I need a CAL for that?
We are running Kerio mail server and not Exchange. I was hoping to run web
edition on that box.

Is there a list out there that covers what does and does not require CALs?

thanks

gjb wrote:
> My company is in the process of being sold. Our current parent
> company holds all our licenses for Servers, workstations and office. I am
> trying to put together a list of licenses and CALs required if
> we found ourselves in a position that we had to purchase our own
> Licenses.
> We have a couple file servers, and I understand that we require a CAL
> for every person who accesses theses servers.
> But I have another server that handles DHCP and FTP (Serve-U by
> RhinoSoft). Do I needs CALs for that server? I already paid RhinoSoft
> for license for the FTP server software, do I need to pay Microsoft
> to? What about DHCP, do I need a CAL for that?
> We are running Kerio mail server and not Exchange. I was hoping to
> run web edition on that box.
>
> Is there a list out there that covers what does and does not require
> CALs?

For a start, are you using per device or per server CALs? Things get much
simpler (and cheaper for multiple servers) very quickly if you go with per
device CALs

"Robert Moir" <robspamtrap+(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> For a start, are you using per device or per server CALs? Things get much
> simpler (and cheaper for multiple servers) very quickly if you go with
per
> device CALs

Thanks. I'm waiting for a reply to almost the same question.

I just wanted to know if adding an additional file server (not a DC or
anything else, just a file server) required another set of CALs.

I thought it was per device or per user, at least when I installed a SBS
recently. I believe I chose per user CALs so people could work from home
without needing a CAL for the home computer.


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OK, so if go with multiple devie (i.e. one for each workstation), I don't
need to purchase a CAL for each server? That would be much easier.

thanks,
gjb


"Robert Moir" <robspamtrap+(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> gjb wrote:
>> My company is in the process of being sold. Our current parent
>> company holds all our licenses for Servers, workstations and office. I am
>> trying to put together a list of licenses and CALs required if
>> we found ourselves in a position that we had to purchase our own
>> Licenses.
>> We have a couple file servers, and I understand that we require a CAL
>> for every person who accesses theses servers.
>> But I have another server that handles DHCP and FTP (Serve-U by
>> RhinoSoft). Do I needs CALs for that server? I already paid RhinoSoft
>> for license for the FTP server software, do I need to pay Microsoft
>> to? What about DHCP, do I need a CAL for that?
>> We are running Kerio mail server and not Exchange. I was hoping to
>> run web edition on that box.
>>
>> Is there a list out there that covers what does and does not require
>> CALs?
>
> For a start, are you using per device or per server CALs? Things get much
> simpler (and cheaper for multiple servers) very quickly if you go with per
> device CALs
>

gjb wrote:
> OK, so if go with multiple devie (i.e. one for each workstation), I
> don't need to purchase a CAL for each server? That would be much
> easier.

thats right. You buy a "per device" CAL for each computer on your network,
or whatever, and then it doesn't matter if you've got 2 servers or 20.

Tom Del Rosso wrote:
> "Robert Moir" <robspamtrap+(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> For a start, are you using per device or per server CALs? Things get
>> much simpler (and cheaper for multiple servers) very quickly if you
>> go with per device CALs
>
> Thanks. I'm waiting for a reply to almost the same question.
>
> I just wanted to know if adding an additional file server (not a DC or
> anything else, just a file server) required another set of CALs.
>
> I thought it was per device or per user, at least when I installed a
> SBS recently. I believe I chose per user CALs so people could work
> from home without needing a CAL for the home computer.

I don't really do any work with SBS so i wouldn't presume to try to give you
advice on any technical or licencing aspects of a SBS setup... There is a
specialist SBS newsgroup here that probably can, and ideally there are also
licence specialists at microsoft and many of the big resellers that can give
you a gold plated answer vs. my opinion.

sorry i can't help with this one!

"Robert Moir" <robspamtrap+(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Tom Del Rosso wrote:
> > "Robert Moir" <robspamtrap+(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>
> >> For a start, are you using per device or per server CALs? Things get
> >> much simpler (and cheaper for multiple servers) very quickly if you
> >> go with per device CALs
> >
> > Thanks. I'm waiting for a reply to almost the same question.
> >
> > I just wanted to know if adding an additional file server (not a DC or
> > anything else, just a file server) required another set of CALs.
> >
> > I thought it was per device or per user, at least when I installed a
> > SBS recently. I believe I chose per user CALs so people could work
> > from home without needing a CAL for the home computer.
>
> I don't really do any work with SBS so i wouldn't presume to try to give
you
> advice on any technical or licencing aspects of a SBS setup... There is a
> specialist SBS newsgroup here that probably can, and ideally there are
also
> licence specialists at microsoft and many of the big resellers that can
give
> you a gold plated answer vs. my opinion.
>
> sorry i can't help with this one!

No, please, you can. My question was about Server 2003, not SBS. I just
don't remember which type of CALs were used setting up the server in
question, which was not installed recently.

Above, you said the choices were "per device or per server CALs", and I
recently did a SBS where the choices were "per device or per user". I only
brought that up because the choices were different from what you said, and
I thought it was also "per device or per user" for Server 2003.

So, if the my Server 2003 has per-device CALs, then can I add another
server without getting more CALs?


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Tom Del Rosso wrote:
> "Robert Moir" <robspamtrap+(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Tom Del Rosso wrote:
>>> "Robert Moir" <robspamtrap+(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>
>>>> For a start, are you using per device or per server CALs? Things
>>>> get much simpler (and cheaper for multiple servers) very quickly
>>>> if you go with per device CALs
>>>
>>> Thanks. I'm waiting for a reply to almost the same question.
>>>
>>> I just wanted to know if adding an additional file server (not a DC
>>> or anything else, just a file server) required another set of CALs.
>>>
>>> I thought it was per device or per user, at least when I installed a
>>> SBS recently. I believe I chose per user CALs so people could work
>>> from home without needing a CAL for the home computer.
>>
>> I don't really do any work with SBS so i wouldn't presume to try to
>> give you advice on any technical or licencing aspects of a SBS
>> setup... There is a specialist SBS newsgroup here that probably can,
>> and ideally there are also licence specialists at microsoft and many
>> of the big resellers that can give you a gold plated answer vs. my
>> opinion.
>>
>> sorry i can't help with this one!
>
> No, please, you can. My question was about Server 2003, not SBS. I
> just don't remember which type of CALs were used setting up the
> server in question, which was not installed recently.
>
> Above, you said the choices were "per device or per server CALs", and
> I recently did a SBS where the choices were "per device or per user".
> I only brought that up because the choices were different from what
> you said, and I thought it was also "per device or per user" for
> Server 2003.
>
> So, if the my Server 2003 has per-device CALs, then can I add another
> server without getting more CALs?

ah... that i can answer... yes... per device CALs mean you can add another
server without needing more CALs.

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/s...03_server.mspx has some
documentation


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"Robert Moir" <robspamtrap+(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> ah... that i can answer... yes... per device CALs mean you can add
another
> server without needing more CALs.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/s...03_server.mspx has
some
> documentation

Thanks Robert. I should have just called MS, but I only remember after
hours when I'm not occupied.


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