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Jim Jackson
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      11-12-2007, 12:03 PM

For sometime now I've been using easily.co.uk for registering domains and
forwarding email and web.

However it appears they have a global blacklist of words that cause
email to be rejected at their servers. This has caused me problems
on some email lists where the reject has caused me to be suspended from
list membership.

Easily off the facility to disable spam checking, but it has no effect on
this global setting, their support guys say...

"Unfortunately this is a sever wide configuration and is not influenced by
spam filtering in your account online. This cannot be disabled due to it
being a server wide configuration."

Can anyone recommend an alternative, which is known not to filter email as
it is forwarded?

Jim




 
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Gordon Hudson
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      11-12-2007, 01:34 PM

"Jim Jackson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:fh9ivn$1fq$1$(E-Mail Removed)...
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> For sometime now I've been using easily.co.uk for registering domains and
> forwarding email and web.
>
> However it appears they have a global blacklist of words that cause
> email to be rejected at their servers. This has caused me problems
> on some email lists where the reject has caused me to be suspended from
> list membership.
>
> Easily off the facility to disable spam checking, but it has no effect on
> this global setting, their support guys say...
>
> "Unfortunately this is a sever wide configuration and is not influenced by
> spam filtering in your account online. This cannot be disabled due to it
> being a server wide configuration."
>
> Can anyone recommend an alternative, which is known not to filter email as
> it is forwarded?


Yes, its called a dedicated server.

The problem with any shared environment is that the amount of spam hitting
the server uses up all the sockets unless you want to end up with a
warehouse full of mail servers which would multiply the cost many times.
Everyone is having to use some sort of spam filtering at a server wide level
but its never based on specific words.
It is normally based on either a database of already udentified spam (e.g.
if the same viagra message comes in twice the second and subsequent ones ket
killed) or it uses Bayesian analysis to score it across a number of factors.

If there was no filtering at then some people would not be able to see their
mail for spam.

Here is an example:
We had a customer register a new domain.
Within a few days it was getting 500,000 spams per day.
The reason turned out to be that it had previously been used by an ISP in
the USA for end user email, addresses so as soon as it was re registered the
spam had somewhere to go.
We had to put him on a spam firewall to protect the mail servers from
overload.

Email is becoming less and less reliable and more and more filtered as time
goes on.
The main reason though is all the random address spam.
Even if you never see it, it eats up processing resources.

We are changing our TOS so that Nameroute customers are only allowed to
receive 1000 emails per rolling 24 hours and Hostroute customer 2000.
Customers going above this limit will need to be run through our spam
firewall at additional cost.
This will affect about 0.5% of customers and many of those will be ones who
don't use their email addresses anyway (as I found out last week when we
trialled this - half the people we contacted said they didn't use their
email including the guy with 180,000 emails in his current directory).


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      11-12-2007, 02:13 PM
In article <fh9ivn$1fq$1$(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) (Jim Jackson) writes:
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> For sometime now I've been using easily.co.uk for registering domains and
> forwarding email and web.
>
> However it appears they have a global blacklist of words that cause
> email to be rejected at their servers.

[trimmed]
> Can anyone recommend an alternative, which is known not to filter email as
> it is forwarded?


I used freeparking.co.uk for a few years. They're cheap for the basic
functionality of "registering domains and forwarding email and web" that
you're after. There's no enforced filtering of the mail there. I did
find that their mail servers had a tendency to temporarily reject mail
when busy, which occasionally used to delay mail for a while. It was
never quite enough of a nuisance to make me move, until recently.

After several instances of really excessive delay (at least one so long
that the sending mail server gave up), I did take the plunge a few weeks
back. On a colleague's recommendation I went for pipeten.co.uk. The
on-line administration of the account was a bit odd in places, but I
found their support superb. It's costing me £30 a year (+ VAT)
for an account, whereas Freeparking lumps the service in with the
£5 a year or so it costs for the domain.

I can't really grumble about what I was getting for £5 from
freeparking.co.uk. Whereas it's not always the case that you get what
you pay for - so far indications are that my £30 a year to
Pipeten is worth it to me.

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Al
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      11-12-2007, 07:17 PM
> For sometime now I've been using easily.co.uk for registering domains
> and forwarding email and web.


Me too. Have umpteen domains parked there with mail forwarding and web
redirection, as well as cheap hosting and a paid for email account.

> However it appears they have a global blacklist of words that cause
> email to be rejected at their servers.


I was going to tell you that this was complete rubbish, but I just tried it
and sure enough they are bouncing mails because "Your message contains a
banned word within the subject" :-(

This is very disappointing as I like to manage my spam my way. I'm not
aware that I've ever lost anything important due to this forced filtering,
but who knows?

> Can anyone recommend an alternative, which is known not to filter
> email as it is forwarded?


I'd like to know also. Although I don't relish moving hundreds of domains
to a new provider :-(

Al.
 
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      11-13-2007, 09:16 PM
Al <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > For sometime now I've been using easily.co.uk for registering domains
> > and forwarding email and web.


> Me too. Have umpteen domains parked there with mail forwarding and web
> redirection, as well as cheap hosting and a paid for email account.

...........
> > Can anyone recommend an alternative, which is known not to filter
> > email as it is forwarded?


> I'd like to know also. Although I don't relish moving hundreds of domains
> to a new provider :-(


How about hitting their support with a complaint! We just might shift
them! Until I discovered this I was very happy with them.

 
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