dual-homed dell?

Our current setup are three Dells, wired DSL. I'm moving in a few weeks to
the Atlanta area. They use wireless. I'm buying wireless NICs in
preparation of the move. My question: I'm currently wired, I want to hook
up a wireless card on each Dell (and a compatible wireless router)

Any problem?

Thanks!

Ross

Ross M. Greenberg wrote:
> Our current setup are three Dells, wired DSL. I'm moving in a few
> weeks to the Atlanta area. They use wireless. I'm buying wireless
> NICs in preparation of the move. My question: I'm currently wired, I
> want to hook up a wireless card on each Dell (and a compatible
> wireless router)
> Any problem?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ross

When you say "They use wireless"... who are they?
To create your own wi-fi home network yes... you need wi-fi adaptors for
each Dell. If you go with internal NIC make sure each Dell has room for the
card. (open slot) There are other options such as USB wi-fi adaptors. And
yes you'll need a wireless router. I'd get the same brand as your wireless
NICs or USB adaptors.
But if "they" means the city of Atlanta then that's a different story. If
you'll be in an area with free or paid wi-fi you don't need the wireless
router. So explain who "they" are. If you're not moving to a free or paid
wi-fi area you don't need any new equipment. You can stay wired.

"They" is Bellatlantic. They provide the DSL for where I'm moving.

They use a high-speed "G" which is what I'm getting for the Dells. USB.
Simultaneously, my daughter is going to college in the fall, with a
graduation gift of a top of the line Dell with a G wireless. Her college
provides wired DSL; I'll be giving her the router to hook up to the wired
DSL in her room.allowing her wireless access.

My objective is to get setup for the move by setting up wireless here to
emulate what I'll have after the move.
"DanR" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Ross M. Greenberg wrote:
>> Our current setup are three Dells, wired DSL. I'm moving in a few
>> weeks to the Atlanta area. They use wireless. I'm buying wireless
>> NICs in preparation of the move. My question: I'm currently wired, I
>> want to hook up a wireless card on each Dell (and a compatible
>> wireless router)
>> Any problem?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Ross
>
> When you say "They use wireless"... who are they?
> To create your own wi-fi home network yes... you need wi-fi adaptors for
> each Dell. If you go with internal NIC make sure each Dell has room for
> the card. (open slot) There are other options such as USB wi-fi adaptors.
> And yes you'll need a wireless router. I'd get the same brand as your
> wireless NICs or USB adaptors.
> But if "they" means the city of Atlanta then that's a different story. If
> you'll be in an area with free or paid wi-fi you don't need the wireless
> router. So explain who "they" are. If you're not moving to a free or paid
> wi-fi area you don't need any new equipment. You can stay wired.
>
>

"Ross M. Greenberg" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>"They" is Bellatlantic. They provide the DSL for where I'm moving.
>
> They use a high-speed "G" which is what I'm getting for the Dells. USB.
>Simultaneously, my daughter is going to college in the fall, with a
>graduation gift of a top of the line Dell with a G wireless. Her college
>provides wired DSL; I'll be giving her the router to hook up to the wired
>DSL in her room.allowing her wireless access.
>
>My objective is to get setup for the move by setting up wireless here to
>emulate what I'll have after the move.

Which college in the Atlanta area?
http://atlanta.about.com/cs/educatio...llegeguide.htm
The problem is that various colleges have assorted security policies
in dealing with student owned computers. Most require that you
register the MAC address of the connecting device. Some require that
VPN clients or X.509 certificates be used to authenticate that you are
really a genuine student, not a hacker. For example, Resnet
(Residence Network) at Georgia Tech:
http://www.resnet.gatech.edu
requires registering routers and limits users to one computer.
http://www.resnet.gatech.edu/router.txt
https://start.gatech.edu

While it's a good idea to test the new computers before going to
Atlanta, I don't think simulating the college environment is going to
be practical or useful.

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> Which college in the Atlanta area?

I'm sorry: I wasn't clear; my daughter is going to Pratt Institute in
Brooklyn, NY. My wife, son (5th grade) and I are going to Atlanta.

> The problem is that various colleges have assorted security policies
> in dealing with student owned computers. Most require that you
> register the MAC address of the connecting device. Some require that
> VPN clients or X.509 certificates be used to authenticate that you are
> really a genuine student, not a hacker.

Good idea, actually!

> For example, Resnet
> (Residence Network) at Georgia Tech:
> http://www.resnet.gatech.edu
> requires registering routers and limits users to one computer.

A reasonable policy.

>
> While it's a good idea to test the new computers before going to
> Atlanta, I don't think simulating the college environment is going to
> be practical or useful.

Thanks, Jeff! Time to call up Pratt and see what _their_ policy is.......

Ross

"Ross M. Greenberg" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
>> Which college in the Atlanta area?
>
> I'm sorry: I wasn't clear; my daughter is going to Pratt Institute in
> Brooklyn, NY. My wife, son (5th grade) and I are going to Atlanta.
>
>> The problem is that various colleges have assorted security policies
>> in dealing with student owned computers. Most require that you
>> register the MAC address of the connecting device. Some require that
>> VPN clients or X.509 certificates be used to authenticate that you are
>> really a genuine student, not a hacker.
>
> Good idea, actually!
>
>> For example, Resnet
>> (Residence Network) at Georgia Tech:
>> http://www.resnet.gatech.edu
>> requires registering routers and limits users to one computer.
>
> A reasonable policy.
>
>>
>> While it's a good idea to test the new computers before going to
>> Atlanta, I don't think simulating the college environment is going to
>> be practical or useful.
>
> Thanks, Jeff! Time to call up Pratt and see what _their_ policy is.......
>
> Ross
>
>
If all else fails, you could get her a router that allows for MAC address
spoofing. That way she can hook up her wired connection long enough to
register with their network and later plug in the router and have it report
the same MAC address as her PC.

If she uses the wireless router you might want to make sure you have the
strongest wireless security turned on the router allows for or other
students may try to plug into her feed and possibly cause problems like
downloading/uploading possibly illegal stuff using her IP address.

"Ross M. Greenberg" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>I'm sorry: I wasn't clear; my daughter is going to Pratt Institute in
>Brooklyn, NY. My wife, son (5th grade) and I are going to Atlanta.
(...)

Well, like any network, skools like to be able to identify every
machine and user on their system. There are lots of ways to do that.

>Thanks, Jeff! Time to call up Pratt and see what _their_ policy is.......

Not much on their web pile. It doesn't say anything about registering
machines, security, or wireless.
http://www.pratt.edu/policies/computers/computer.pdf

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> http://www.pratt.edu/policies/computers/computer.pdf

http://portal.pratt.edu/online/pdfs/...nnectivity.pdf

Restrictions

Students are not allowed to have routers, switches or any other
wireless network devices, such as Airports, · in their dorm
rooms. Wireless keyboards and other devices operating via Bluetooth
are okay.

If any virus or spam activity is detected, network service may
be discontinued indefinitely until the problem · is resolved.

Sounds like you might want to hold off on the wifi until you get the
lay of the land. It might be an old rule that isn't enforced any
more, but then again maybe it still is.

I know someone that works there and lives in faculty housing. Last I
heard he used a dialup to get his internet fix. It sounds like the
students have a much better deal with an ethernet drop to their rooms

-wolfgang
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Just got off the phone with them. They claim campus wide Wifi, and that her
G card will work in her dorm room, as well as everywhere else on campus.

"Wolfgang S. Rupprecht"
<wolfgang+(E-Mail Removed) .wsrcc.com> wrote in
message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>> http://www.pratt.edu/policies/computers/computer.pdf
>
> http://portal.pratt.edu/online/pdfs/...nnectivity.pdf
>
> Restrictions
>
> Students are not allowed to have routers, switches or any other
> wireless network devices, such as Airports, · in their dorm
> rooms. Wireless keyboards and other devices operating via Bluetooth
> are okay.
>
> If any virus or spam activity is detected, network service may
> be discontinued indefinitely until the problem · is resolved.
>
> Sounds like you might want to hold off on the wifi until you get the
> lay of the land. It might be an old rule that isn't enforced any
> more, but then again maybe it still is.
>
> I know someone that works there and lives in faculty housing. Last I
> heard he used a dialup to get his internet fix. It sounds like the
> students have a much better deal with an ethernet drop to their rooms
>
> -wolfgang
> --
> Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/

>
> If she uses the wireless router you might want to make sure you have the
> strongest wireless security turned on the router allows for or other
> students may try to plug into her feed and possibly cause problems like
> downloading/uploading possibly illegal stuff using her IP address.

Good point!