Draytek Vigor 2500, anyone using one? Opinions please!

As subject, what do you think of this router?

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Brian Morrison

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Draytek Vigor has all the features, is very highly regarded, recommended and
with least complaints.
My 2600We hasn't missed a bit since May installation.
Regards,
Martin

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 02:30:11 +0000, in article
<4mUwb.13143$(E-Mail Removed)> "Martin²"
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> Draytek Vigor has all the features, is very highly regarded, recommended and
> with least complaints.
> My 2600We hasn't missed a bit since May installation.

OK, thanks for that, but I was specifically asking about the 2500 rather
than the 2600.

It seems rather new and is a cut down 2600 in that some features of the
2600 (particularly multiple VPN or PPTP, L2TP tunnels) are not supported.

I was wondering whether anyone felt that the saving was worthwhile, it's
about 35 quid cheaper than the 2600.

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On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:55:19 +0000, Brian Morrison
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>> Draytek Vigor has all the features, is very highly regarded, recommended and
>> with least complaints.
>> My 2600We hasn't missed a bit since May installation.
>
>OK, thanks for that, but I was specifically asking about the 2500 rather
>than the 2600.
>
>It seems rather new and is a cut down 2600 in that some features of the
>2600 (particularly multiple VPN or PPTP, L2TP tunnels) are not supported.
>
>I was wondering whether anyone felt that the saving was worthwhile, it's
>about 35 quid cheaper than the 2600.

The 2600 took many months for its firmware to settle down and work
properly. I would buy the 2600, update the firmware to the latest and
enjoy better support of what is now a very good product.

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Hiram Hackenbacker

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Brian Morrison
wrote:
> OK, thanks for that, but I was specifically asking about the 2500 rather
> than the 2600.
>
> It seems rather new and is a cut down 2600 in that some features of the
> 2600 (particularly multiple VPN or PPTP, L2TP tunnels) are not supported.
>
> I was wondering whether anyone felt that the saving was worthwhile, it's
> about 35 quid cheaper than the 2600.
>
It's probably very good, but for 35 quid you might as well have the extra
features, even if you're not yet sure if you'll need them. The 2600 seems to
have every possible facility, so I don't anticipate ever replacing it as
long as I'm using ADSL.

It's a bit like that USR Courier V-Everything modem that seemed expensive
when I bought it, but which has worked flawlessly through several flash
upgrades on everything from 1200 b/s bulletin boards in the dark days of
DOS, to 56k internet connections and Windows 2000. It's still in working
order now, still connected as a spare, and I don't suppose I'll ever replace
that either. Buy the right thing and you'll only need to buy it once.

Rod.

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:13:33 +0000, in article
<(E-Mail Removed)> Roderick Stewart
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Brian Morrison
> wrote:
>> OK, thanks for that, but I was specifically asking about the 2500 rather
>> than the 2600.
>>
>> It seems rather new and is a cut down 2600 in that some features of the
>> 2600 (particularly multiple VPN or PPTP, L2TP tunnels) are not supported.
>>
>> I was wondering whether anyone felt that the saving was worthwhile, it's
>> about 35 quid cheaper than the 2600.
>>
> It's probably very good, but for 35 quid you might as well have the extra
> features, even if you're not yet sure if you'll need them. The 2600 seems to
> have every possible facility, so I don't anticipate ever replacing it as
> long as I'm using ADSL.
>
> It's a bit like that USR Courier V-Everything modem that seemed expensive
> when I bought it, but which has worked flawlessly through several flash
> upgrades on everything from 1200 b/s bulletin boards in the dark days of
> DOS, to 56k internet connections and Windows 2000. It's still in working
> order now, still connected as a spare, and I don't suppose I'll ever replace
> that either. Buy the right thing and you'll only need to buy it once.

Thanks to those that replied.

I had another scan of the specs and decided much as you suggest. I can't
see needing anything for home ADSL that the 2600 can't do really, so I
have now placed an order and am expecting delivery tomorrow.

I know that the exchange won't be ready until early February but I've
noticed that the majority of the suppliers seemed to be out of stock at
present. I'm working on the basis that a router in the hand is worth two
in the warehouse....

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Brian Morrison

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In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Brian Morrison
wrote:
> I know that the exchange won't be ready until early February but I've
> noticed that the majority of the suppliers seemed to be out of stock at
> present. I'm working on the basis that a router in the hand is worth two
> in the warehouse....
>
If you've got more than one computer, you'll be able to use it as a network
hub in the meantime.

Rod.

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:04:37 +0000, in article
<(E-Mail Removed)> Roderick Stewart
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Brian Morrison
> wrote:
>> I know that the exchange won't be ready until early February but I've
>> noticed that the majority of the suppliers seemed to be out of stock at
>> present. I'm working on the basis that a router in the hand is worth two
>> in the warehouse....
>>
> If you've got more than one computer, you'll be able to use it as a network
> hub in the meantime.

Well yes, I already have a hub, but since the router has a switch it will
be slightly more efficient.

To add to the comments about the 2600 being rock solid, I've been browsing
the Draytek forums and there are quite a few people having various
problems with the 2.5 firmware. Maybe some patches will appear by the time
I put mine to use in anger :-o

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Brian Morrison

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In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Brian Morrison
wrote:
> To add to the comments about the 2600 being rock solid, I've been browsing
> the Draytek forums and there are quite a few people having various
> problems with the 2.5 firmware. Maybe some patches will appear by the time
> I put mine to use in anger :-o

There are two versions of the 2.5 firmware. The standard one has been rock
solid for me, though I understand that the other one is for those who have
lower signal levels. Signal loss is 30.5dB here, which I believe is quite
good, so I don't know how it performs under bad conditions.

I note that some people have had problems with the actual process of flashing
the firmware, though I think some people may not have taken the precaution of
unplugging everything except the computer that is doing the upgrade, as
recommended. I've flashed two Draytek units without problems.

Rod.

My 2600We came with v2.3.6_UK and since it ain't broke.....
Mine works between two buildings 75m apart trough two sets of double glazed
and leaded windows at an acute angle.
Regards,
Martin