Double Post

I know I have been chastised for using Outlook Express by a few, but I
have a problem and Im not sure
if its me, my ISP, or everybody. But I have double postings of
everything. If I repy it shows up twice, If you reply it shows up
twice.... HELP ME!

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:24:49 -0600, "Airhead"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I know I have been chastised for using Outlook Express by a few, but I
>have a problem and Im not sure
>if its me, my ISP, or everybody. But I have double postings of
>everything. If I repy it shows up twice, If you reply it shows up
>twice.... HELP ME!

Ouchlook Depress treats newsgroups like email. If the outgoing SMTP
or NNTP server stalls, times out, or fails to indicate that the
message was properly received, Ouchlook Depress will attempt to resend
over and over and over until it gets a proper acknowledgement. This
is the cause of most duplicated usenet news (and email) messages.
However, that applied only to your own messages. Messages from others
should be just fine.

My guess(tm) is that you have a corrupted "data store .dbx" also known
as a mailbox. There are numerous Outlook Express repair programs
available on the internet. I can't tell from here if it will help,
but it's worth a try.

However, the ultimate final solution is to abandon your evil ways and
switch to Forte Agent 2.0. I've been using it for many years and find
it a major improvement over other usenet news readers. I don't recall
having any problems other than a really weird mess I created by trying
to use it over an incredibly slow packet radio connection.
http://www.forteinc.com


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"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:24:49 -0600, "Airhead"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >I know I have been chastised for using Outlook Express by a few,
but I
> >have a problem and Im not sure
> >if its me, my ISP, or everybody. But I have double postings of
> >everything. If I repy it shows up twice, If you reply it shows up
> >twice.... HELP ME!
>
> Ouchlook Depress treats newsgroups like email. If the outgoing SMTP
> or NNTP server stalls, times out, or fails to indicate that the
> message was properly received, Ouchlook Depress will attempt to
resend
> over and over and over until it gets a proper acknowledgement. This
> is the cause of most duplicated usenet news (and email) messages.
> However, that applied only to your own messages. Messages from
others
> should be just fine.
>
> My guess(tm) is that you have a corrupted "data store .dbx" also
known
> as a mailbox. There are numerous Outlook Express repair programs
> available on the internet. I can't tell from here if it will help,
> but it's worth a try.
>
> However, the ultimate final solution is to abandon your evil ways
and
> switch to Forte Agent 2.0. I've been using it for many years and
find
> it a major improvement over other usenet news readers. I don't
recall
> having any problems other than a really weird mess I created by
trying
> to use it over an incredibly slow packet radio connection.
> http://www.forteinc.com


Jeff, I will try your suggestion and give up my evil ways.. So I guess
nobody else
is seeing double. Just me.

"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:24:49 -0600, "Airhead"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >I know I have been chastised for using Outlook Express by a few,
but I
> >have a problem and Im not sure
> >if its me, my ISP, or everybody. But I have double postings of
> >everything. If I repy it shows up twice, If you reply it shows up
> >twice.... HELP ME!
>
> Ouchlook Depress treats newsgroups like email. If the outgoing SMTP
> or NNTP server stalls, times out, or fails to indicate that the
> message was properly received, Ouchlook Depress will attempt to
resend
> over and over and over until it gets a proper acknowledgement. This
> is the cause of most duplicated usenet news (and email) messages.
> However, that applied only to your own messages. Messages from
others
> should be just fine.
>
> My guess(tm) is that you have a corrupted "data store .dbx" also
known
> as a mailbox. There are numerous Outlook Express repair programs
> available on the internet. I can't tell from here if it will help,
> but it's worth a try.
>
> However, the ultimate final solution is to abandon your evil ways
and
> switch to Forte Agent 2.0. I've been using it for many years and
find
> it a major improvement over other usenet news readers. I don't
recall
> having any problems other than a really weird mess I created by
trying
> to use it over an incredibly slow packet radio connection.
> http://www.forteinc.com


By the way , I also have Xnews and it is double post, I dont use it
much
because I am a outlook flunky cheapo, but I checked it and it is the
same.
??? Any ideas.

What version of Outlook Express are you using? Also, do you have MS Office
loaded on your PC? If so , try setting up and using MS Outlook that came
with MS Office and see if it duplicates the same problem.

"Airhead" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:42324a29$0$22520$(E-Mail Removed) m...
>
> "Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:24:49 -0600, "Airhead"
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>> >I know I have been chastised for using Outlook Express by a few,
> but I
>> >have a problem and Im not sure
>> >if its me, my ISP, or everybody. But I have double postings of
>> >everything. If I repy it shows up twice, If you reply it shows up
>> >twice.... HELP ME!
>>
>> Ouchlook Depress treats newsgroups like email. If the outgoing SMTP
>> or NNTP server stalls, times out, or fails to indicate that the
>> message was properly received, Ouchlook Depress will attempt to
> resend
>> over and over and over until it gets a proper acknowledgement. This
>> is the cause of most duplicated usenet news (and email) messages.
>> However, that applied only to your own messages. Messages from
> others
>> should be just fine.
>>
>> My guess(tm) is that you have a corrupted "data store .dbx" also
> known
>> as a mailbox. There are numerous Outlook Express repair programs
>> available on the internet. I can't tell from here if it will help,
>> but it's worth a try.
>>
>> However, the ultimate final solution is to abandon your evil ways
> and
>> switch to Forte Agent 2.0. I've been using it for many years and
> find
>> it a major improvement over other usenet news readers. I don't
> recall
>> having any problems other than a really weird mess I created by
> trying
>> to use it over an incredibly slow packet radio connection.
>> http://www.forteinc.com
>
>
> By the way , I also have Xnews and it is double post, I dont use it
> much
> because I am a outlook flunky cheapo, but I checked it and it is the
> same.
> ??? Any ideas.
>

"scout" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:BNednQ2NW8zszK_fRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> What version of Outlook Express are you using? Also, do you have MS Office
> loaded on your PC? If so , try setting up and using MS Outlook that came
> with MS Office and see if it duplicates the same problem.
>
> "Airhead" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:42324a29$0$22520$(E-Mail Removed) m...
>>
>> "Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:24:49 -0600, "Airhead"
>>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I know I have been chastised for using Outlook Express by a few,
>> but I
>>> >have a problem and Im not sure
>>> >if its me, my ISP, or everybody. But I have double postings of
>>> >everything. If I repy it shows up twice, If you reply it shows up
>>> >twice.... HELP ME!
>>>
>>> Ouchlook Depress treats newsgroups like email. If the outgoing SMTP
>>> or NNTP server stalls, times out, or fails to indicate that the
>>> message was properly received, Ouchlook Depress will attempt to
>> resend
>>> over and over and over until it gets a proper acknowledgement. This
>>> is the cause of most duplicated usenet news (and email) messages.
>>> However, that applied only to your own messages. Messages from
>> others
>>> should be just fine.
>>>
>>> My guess(tm) is that you have a corrupted "data store .dbx" also
>> known
>>> as a mailbox. There are numerous Outlook Express repair programs
>>> available on the internet. I can't tell from here if it will help,
>>> but it's worth a try.
>>>
>>> However, the ultimate final solution is to abandon your evil ways
>> and
>>> switch to Forte Agent 2.0. I've been using it for many years and
>> find
>>> it a major improvement over other usenet news readers. I don't
>> recall
>>> having any problems other than a really weird mess I created by
>> trying
>>> to use it over an incredibly slow packet radio connection.
>>> http://www.forteinc.com
>>
>>
>> By the way , I also have Xnews and it is double post, I dont use it
>> much
>> because I am a outlook flunky cheapo, but I checked it and it is the
>> same.
>> ??? Any ideas.
>>
>
>

If Xnews shows double posts too, then it has nothing to do with Outlook
Express and is a problem at his ISP's server.

Tom

In article <42324a29$0$22520$(E-Mail Removed)> , Airhead wrote:

>By the way , I also have Xnews and it is double post, I dont use it
>much because I am a outlook flunky cheapo, but I checked it and it is the
>same.

What you should be looking for is the "Message-ID:" header. On my news
spool, which goes back to last Sunday mid-day, I have 20 posts from you,
with no dups. In this thread up until Saturday at noon GMT, there are
a total of six posts. The message IDs are:

Message-ID: <423236be$0$22519$(E-Mail Removed)>

Message-ID: <(E-Mail Removed)>

Message-ID: <42324944$0$22521$(E-Mail Removed)>

Message-ID: <42324a29$0$22520$(E-Mail Removed)>

Message-ID: <BNednQ2NW8zszK_fRVn-(E-Mail Removed)>

Message-ID: <HPzYd.134522$(E-Mail Removed) >

The messages with a 'news.cablerocket.com' string in the ID are yours.
Message IDs are how the various servers around the world tell the difference
between articles. They may be supplied by the news reader (as mine are) or
they may be supplied (or overwritten) by the news server you are posting to.

Next time you see a duplicate, figure out how to find the message ID headers
(don't ask me - I not only don't use Outhouse. I don't use windoze either)
and see if they are the same.

You should also look for the 'Xref: ' header, which is how your news reader
keeps track of articles. That header is set be the receiving news server
(the one you download or read from), and is unique to your news server
ALONE. People reading from other servers will have that header, but
the numbers and perhaps even the format of the line will be different.
For example, I'm reading on giganews, and the article I'm replying to
has the header

Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com alt.internet.wireless:101485

If you see a dup, and it has the exact same 'XRef:' header in both copies,
then it's your newsreader that is b0rked. If the dup has the same 'Message
-ID:' header but different 'XRef:' headers, it's your ISP. If both the
'Message-ID:' and 'XRef:' are different, then the problem is the sending
newreader.

Old guy