Domain Server or Member Server? That is the question.

Hello All,

I need some help making a decision. My classroom has a lab of 10 computers
in which all need to get out on the internet. Do I need a patch panel?
Switch? Router? I want all of the computers to have anti-virus. We are
planning on having more then 10 computers really soon.

So because of the anti virus requirement, I'm not sure if I should run them
through a domain server and push out anti-virus updates to each one or run
them through a member server or router and have anti virus installed
individually on each one. So any suggestions would be most helpful.
Thanks!

1. use a router.
2. push out the update.

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"Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:ePXvI%23$$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hello All,
>
> I need some help making a decision. My classroom has a lab of 10 computers
> in which all need to get out on the internet. Do I need a patch panel?
> Switch? Router? I want all of the computers to have anti-virus. We are
> planning on having more then 10 computers really soon.
>
> So because of the anti virus requirement, I'm not sure if I should run
> them
> through a domain server and push out anti-virus updates to each one or run
> them through a member server or router and have anti virus installed
> individually on each one. So any suggestions would be most helpful.
> Thanks!
>
>

Thanks for the reply. Push out the router from where? A member server?


"Robert L [MS-MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:uZ$(E-Mail Removed)...
> 1. use a router.
> 2. push out the update.
>
> --
> For more and other information, go to http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>
> Don't send e-mail or reply to me except you need consulting services.
> Posting on MS newsgroup will benefit all readers and you may get more
help.
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN, Anti-Virus, Tips & Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> Networking Solutions, http://www.chicagotech.net/networksolutions.htm
> VPN Solutions, http://www.chicagotech.net/vpnsolutions.htm
> VPN Process and Error Analysis,
http://www.chicagotech.net/VPN%20process.htm
> VPN Troubleshooting, http://www.chicagotech.net/vpn.htm
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties.
> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:ePXvI%23$$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I need some help making a decision. My classroom has a lab of 10
computers
> > in which all need to get out on the internet. Do I need a patch panel?
> > Switch? Router? I want all of the computers to have anti-virus. We are
> > planning on having more then 10 computers really soon.
> >
> > So because of the anti virus requirement, I'm not sure if I should run
> > them
> > through a domain server and push out anti-virus updates to each one or
run
> > them through a member server or router and have anti virus installed
> > individually on each one. So any suggestions would be most helpful.
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
>
>

I think Bob meant use a router to provide Internet access, and push out
AV updates from the server. Whether you use a DC or not depends on a lot of
things which you haven't specified.

"Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks for the reply. Push out the router from where? A member server?
>
>
> "Robert L [MS-MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:uZ$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> 1. use a router.
>> 2. push out the update.
>>
>> --
>> For more and other information, go to http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>>
>> Don't send e-mail or reply to me except you need consulting services.
>> Posting on MS newsgroup will benefit all readers and you may get more
> help.
>>
>> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN, Anti-Virus, Tips & Troubleshooting on
>> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>> Networking Solutions, http://www.chicagotech.net/networksolutions.htm
>> VPN Solutions, http://www.chicagotech.net/vpnsolutions.htm
>> VPN Process and Error Analysis,
> http://www.chicagotech.net/VPN%20process.htm
>> VPN Troubleshooting, http://www.chicagotech.net/vpn.htm
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties.
>> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:ePXvI%23$$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Hello All,
>> >
>> > I need some help making a decision. My classroom has a lab of 10
> computers
>> > in which all need to get out on the internet. Do I need a patch panel?
>> > Switch? Router? I want all of the computers to have anti-virus. We are
>> > planning on having more then 10 computers really soon.
>> >
>> > So because of the anti virus requirement, I'm not sure if I should run
>> > them
>> > through a domain server and push out anti-virus updates to each one or
> run
>> > them through a member server or router and have anti virus installed
>> > individually on each one. So any suggestions would be most helpful.
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Could you please let me know what else I would need to specify?

thanks.

"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
news:e$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I think Bob meant use a router to provide Internet access, and push out
> AV updates from the server. Whether you use a DC or not depends on a lot
of
> things which you haven't specified.
>
> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Thanks for the reply. Push out the router from where? A member server?
> >
> >
> > "Robert L [MS-MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:uZ$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> 1. use a router.
> >> 2. push out the update.
> >>
> >> --
> >> For more and other information, go to http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> >>
> >> Don't send e-mail or reply to me except you need consulting services.
> >> Posting on MS newsgroup will benefit all readers and you may get more
> > help.
> >>
> >> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> >> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN, Anti-Virus, Tips & Troubleshooting
on
> >> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> >> Networking Solutions, http://www.chicagotech.net/networksolutions.htm
> >> VPN Solutions, http://www.chicagotech.net/vpnsolutions.htm
> >> VPN Process and Error Analysis,
> > http://www.chicagotech.net/VPN%20process.htm
> >> VPN Troubleshooting, http://www.chicagotech.net/vpn.htm
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties.
> >> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:ePXvI%23$$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Hello All,
> >> >
> >> > I need some help making a decision. My classroom has a lab of 10
> > computers
> >> > in which all need to get out on the internet. Do I need a patch
panel?
> >> > Switch? Router? I want all of the computers to have anti-virus. We
are
> >> > planning on having more then 10 computers really soon.
> >> >
> >> > So because of the anti virus requirement, I'm not sure if I should
run
> >> > them
> >> > through a domain server and push out anti-virus updates to each one
or
> > run
> >> > them through a member server or router and have anti virus installed
> >> > individually on each one. So any suggestions would be most helpful.
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

A domain is not a requirement for shared internet access. If you have a
cable/dsl line coming into the classroom you can use one of the popular NAT
routers from D-Link/Netgear/Linksys to provided shared internet access. If
the budget allows spring for something like a Sonic Wall TZ 170 with the
capacity you need for outbound access as it can do a whole lot more
including integrated virus scan, advanced rules capability, and subscription
content filtering. Virus protection needs to be installed on each computer
and the application should be configured to obtain updates automatically
from the internet or server depending on the application.

As for a domain controller, for ten or more computers you will find a domain
very beneficial in administering users/groups and securty and Group Policy
and I highly recommend it. --- Steve

http://www.sonicwall.com/products/tz170.html

"Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:ePXvI%23$$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hello All,
>
> I need some help making a decision. My classroom has a lab of 10 computers
> in which all need to get out on the internet. Do I need a patch panel?
> Switch? Router? I want all of the computers to have anti-virus. We are
> planning on having more then 10 computers really soon.
>
> So because of the anti virus requirement, I'm not sure if I should run
> them
> through a domain server and push out anti-virus updates to each one or run
> them through a member server or router and have anti virus installed
> individually on each one. So any suggestions would be most helpful.
> Thanks!
>
>

Bill, thank you.

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Don't send e-mail or reply to me except you need consulting services.
Posting on MS newsgroup will benefit all readers and you may get more help.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN, Anti-Virus, Tips & Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
Networking Solutions, http://www.chicagotech.net/networksolutions.htm
VPN Solutions, http://www.chicagotech.net/vpnsolutions.htm
VPN Process and Error Analysis, http://www.chicagotech.net/VPN%20process.htm
VPN Troubleshooting, http://www.chicagotech.net/vpn.htm
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties.
"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
news:e$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I think Bob meant use a router to provide Internet access, and push out
> AV updates from the server. Whether you use a DC or not depends on a lot
> of things which you haven't specified.
>
> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Thanks for the reply. Push out the router from where? A member server?
>>
>>
>> "Robert L [MS-MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:uZ$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> 1. use a router.
>>> 2. push out the update.
>>>
>>> --
>>> For more and other information, go to http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>>>
>>> Don't send e-mail or reply to me except you need consulting services.
>>> Posting on MS newsgroup will benefit all readers and you may get more
>> help.
>>>
>>> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>>> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN, Anti-Virus, Tips & Troubleshooting
>>> on
>>> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>>> Networking Solutions, http://www.chicagotech.net/networksolutions.htm
>>> VPN Solutions, http://www.chicagotech.net/vpnsolutions.htm
>>> VPN Process and Error Analysis,
>> http://www.chicagotech.net/VPN%20process.htm
>>> VPN Troubleshooting, http://www.chicagotech.net/vpn.htm
>>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties.
>>> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:ePXvI%23$$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> > Hello All,
>>> >
>>> > I need some help making a decision. My classroom has a lab of 10
>> computers
>>> > in which all need to get out on the internet. Do I need a patch panel?
>>> > Switch? Router? I want all of the computers to have anti-virus. We are
>>> > planning on having more then 10 computers really soon.
>>> >
>>> > So because of the anti virus requirement, I'm not sure if I should run
>>> > them
>>> > through a domain server and push out anti-virus updates to each one or
>> run
>>> > them through a member server or router and have anti virus installed
>>> > individually on each one. So any suggestions would be most helpful.
>>> > Thanks!
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Generally, once you get over 10 users, various Anti Virus corporate or
network editions become cost effective - eg. see:
http://www.grisoft.com/us/price/pric...u_20040823.pdf

Most such products include features which enable you to provide a
centralized update solution.

Doug Sherman
MCSE Win2k/NT4.0, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP

"Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%23B0%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Could you please let me know what else I would need to specify?
>
> thanks.
>
> "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
> news:e$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I think Bob meant use a router to provide Internet access, and push
out
> > AV updates from the server. Whether you use a DC or not depends on a lot
> of
> > things which you haven't specified.
> >
> > "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Thanks for the reply. Push out the router from where? A member server?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Robert L [MS-MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:uZ$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >> 1. use a router.
> > >> 2. push out the update.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> For more and other information, go to http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > >>
> > >> Don't send e-mail or reply to me except you need consulting services.
> > >> Posting on MS newsgroup will benefit all readers and you may get more
> > > help.
> > >>
> > >> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > >> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN, Anti-Virus, Tips &
Troubleshooting
> on
> > >> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > >> Networking Solutions, http://www.chicagotech.net/networksolutions.htm
> > >> VPN Solutions, http://www.chicagotech.net/vpnsolutions.htm
> > >> VPN Process and Error Analysis,
> > > http://www.chicagotech.net/VPN%20process.htm
> > >> VPN Troubleshooting, http://www.chicagotech.net/vpn.htm
> > >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties.
> > >> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > >> news:ePXvI%23$$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >> > Hello All,
> > >> >
> > >> > I need some help making a decision. My classroom has a lab of 10
> > > computers
> > >> > in which all need to get out on the internet. Do I need a patch
> panel?
> > >> > Switch? Router? I want all of the computers to have anti-virus. We
> are
> > >> > planning on having more then 10 computers really soon.
> > >> >
> > >> > So because of the anti virus requirement, I'm not sure if I should
> run
> > >> > them
> > >> > through a domain server and push out anti-virus updates to each one
> or
> > > run
> > >> > them through a member server or router and have anti virus
installed
> > >> > individually on each one. So any suggestions would be most helpful.
> > >> > Thanks!
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Yes I agree Doug, and I like Symantec System Center for it's central update
capability.

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Todd J Heron, MCSE
Windows Server 2003/2000/NT
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