domain name issue

I have a domain where the system was setup internally as domain.org instead
of domain.local. The problem is that we do not host our website so when the
employees try to go to our website the system looks internally for it and
finds nothing. Is there a setting we can change so that when people try to
browse to domain.org the DNS sends them out of the local network to find the
website that is hosted offsite? I do not want to rename the whole domain as
domain.local (even though I know it should have been setup that way to begin
with, someone else set it up before me)

"SBS user" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I have a domain where the system was setup internally as domain.org instead
>of domain.local. The problem is that we do not host our website so when
>the employees try to go to our website the system looks internally for it
>and finds nothing. Is there a setting we can change so that when people
>try to browse to domain.org the DNS sends them out of the local network to
>find the website that is hosted offsite? I do not want to rename the whole
>domain as domain.local (even though I know it should have been setup that
>way to begin with, someone else set it up before me)

The ".local" is a bad choice. That was some kind of push from the SBS crew
to use that, but it was a bad idea. The TLD should not have more than three
letters,...some OS's have a hard time with one that is over 3 letters. If
you wanted to use "local",...then ".loc" would be a better choice

Secondly there is nothing wrong with having the AD Domain the same as the
Public Name.
Just create a Host Record (an "A" Record) in the DNS Zone.
Call it "www".
Give it the Public IP# of the web site.

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Phillip Windell

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
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"Phillip Windell" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:eqqa08n$(E-Mail Removed)...
> "SBS user" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%23v2KrQn$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I have a domain where the system was setup internally as domain.org instead
>>of domain.local. The problem is that we do not host our website so when
>>the employees try to go to our website the system looks internally for it
>>and finds nothing. Is there a setting we can change so that when people
>>try to browse to domain.org the DNS sends them out of the local network to
>>find the website that is hosted offsite? I do not want to rename the whole
>>domain as domain.local (even though I know it should have been setup that
>>way to begin with, someone else set it up before me)
>
> The ".local" is a bad choice. That was some kind of push from the SBS crew
> to use that, but it was a bad idea. The TLD should not have more than three
> letters,...some OS's have a hard time with one that is over 3 letters. If
> you wanted to use "local",...then ".loc" would be a better choice
>
> Secondly there is nothing wrong with having the AD Domain the same as the
> Public Name.
> Just create a Host Record (an "A" Record) in the DNS Zone.
> Call it "www".
> Give it the Public IP# of the web site.

Hi Phillip,

I just want to add for the poster, this solution is the best solution to get to the external same-name website. However, if the poster wants to go to http://domain.org (without the www), it is a little more complex due to the 'split-zone' scenario in place (same name internal/external) because EACH domain controller registers themselves into DNS with an IP address as:
(same as parent) A x.x.x.x

This record is actually called the LdapIpAddress. Each DC registers one for itself. AD uses that record for a number of things, such as DC to DC replication, Sysvol replication, GPOs and DFS. Don't mess with it please.

To get around that, on EACH DC, install IIS. In the default website properties, directory tab, redirect it to www.domain.com, which will redirect it to the www record that was created.

Otherwise, just live with the fact the users always get to it with the www in front of it.

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"YSpud" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:d9118c54-2b04-4eef-bcc3-(E-Mail Removed)...
> And remember to update your A records on your internal split-brain DNS
> whenever you swap out IP addresses. As far as .local goes - I have
> never had a problem anywhere using .local internally with microsoft
> clients.
>
> Jared Shapiro
> http://infinitycomputerconsulting.com


Jared,

I've seen issues with the .local name when there are Mac OSx workstations or an OSx server in the infrastructure bound to the domain, because Rendezvous uses that name.

Ace

"YSpud" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> whenever you swap out IP addresses. As far as .local goes - I have
> never had a problem anywhere using .local internally with microsoft
> clients.

> Jared Shapiro
> http://infinitycomputerconsulting.com

Macs with an OS older than v10 had the problem with the loger TLD. I don't
know of any others specifically. But I like to stay with priciples just the
same. Other than that I think a TLD of longer than 3 just looks stupid to
me :-) It's that obsessive-compulsive-disorder thing.

--
Phillip Windell

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
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"Phillip Windell" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:%23okFzvw$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> Macs with an OS older than v10 had the problem with the loger TLD. I don't
> know of any others specifically. But I like to stay with priciples just the
> same. Other than that I think a TLD of longer than 3 just looks stupid to
> me :-) It's that obsessive-compulsive-disorder thing.

OCD? They have stuff for that!

(just kidding!)

Cheers!

Ace

"Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> Macs with an OS older than v10 had the problem with the loger TLD. I
> don't
> know of any others specifically. But I like to stay with priciples just
> the
> same. Other than that I think a TLD of longer than 3 just looks stupid to
> me :-) It's that obsessive-compulsive-disorder thing.

> OCD? They have stuff for that!

> (just kidding!)

> Cheers!

I like my OCD,..I'm keeping it!

--
Phillip Windell

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
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"Phillip Windell" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:e6ysOux$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> I like my OCD,..I'm keeping it!
>

I guess you can say it's one of the pleasures we're allowed to keep!

"Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote in message news:ux6IAo1$(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Phillip Windell" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:e6ysOux$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> I like my OCD,..I'm keeping it!
>>
>
> I guess you can say it's one of the pleasures we're allowed to keep!
>
>

Phillip is showing he has been in the business too long. How do you cope
with file names over 8 characters, Phill?

I must admit I also keep to 3 character extensons too! I use .lcl . I
even had a test domain on a virtual network called local.lcl .

"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message news:%23ZevHV2$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> Phillip is showing he has been in the business too long. How do you cope
> with file names over 8 characters, Phill?
>
> I must admit I also keep to 3 character extensons too! I use .lcl . I
> even had a test domain on a virtual network called local.lcl .

Hmm, local.lcl? Sounds like an abbreviated stutter.str.

:-)