How does the Windows 98se logon process work?

Hi Group,

I am having trouble with a Win 98SE installation. I can't get this system
to give me the logon prompt at bootup. I am having my user log off after
boot to get the prompt. Then all works fine.

I am logging into a domain and I have installed Client for MS networks and
set it as primary logon. Our transport is TCP/IP and I've tried
re-installing all network components from known good cabinet files (by
clearing and copying the cabs to c:\windows\options\cabs and checking the
setup registry path). The system is fully patched to the current MS
baseline. The network configuration is correct. This problem is being
caused by something in the system not working predictably.

I tried a registy hack which checked the logon status and forced you back to
the logon if not logged on. This would have worked great except instead of
giving me just a prompt it attempted to automatically logon, which was not a
function of the hack.

I have tried playing around with PowerToys but still couldn't get the logon
prompt. So now I am left wondering exactly what entails the logon process?
What files and registry entries are used to control it's behavior?

If anyone has any ideas, I would love to hear them!

Thanks in advance,

Robert Kister

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Robert Kister"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Hi Group,
>
>I am having trouble with a Win 98SE installation. I can't get this system
>to give me the logon prompt at bootup. I am having my user log off after
>boot to get the prompt. Then all works fine.
>
>I am logging into a domain and I have installed Client for MS networks and
>set it as primary logon. Our transport is TCP/IP and I've tried
>re-installing all network components from known good cabinet files (by
>clearing and copying the cabs to c:\windows\options\cabs and checking the
>setup registry path). The system is fully patched to the current MS
>baseline. The network configuration is correct. This problem is being
>caused by something in the system not working predictably.
>
>I tried a registy hack which checked the logon status and forced you back to
>the logon if not logged on. This would have worked great except instead of
>giving me just a prompt it attempted to automatically logon, which was not a
>function of the hack.
>
>I have tried playing around with PowerToys but still couldn't get the logon
>prompt. So now I am left wondering exactly what entails the logon process?
>What files and registry entries are used to control it's behavior?
>
>If anyone has any ideas, I would love to hear them!
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Robert Kister

This is a common problem in Windows 95/98/Me. It can happen even when
you've done everything right. The most likely fix is to run the
registry editor, open this registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
Network\Real Mode Net

and delete the value named "AutoLogon".
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

It worked perfectly! Thanks for the tip Steve. I have a very happy user
now.

Thanks again,

Robert Kister

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Robert Kister"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >Hi Group,
> >
> >I am having trouble with a Win 98SE installation. I can't get this
system
> >to give me the logon prompt at bootup. I am having my user log off after
> >boot to get the prompt. Then all works fine.
> >
> >I am logging into a domain and I have installed Client for MS networks
and
> >set it as primary logon. Our transport is TCP/IP and I've tried
> >re-installing all network components from known good cabinet files (by
> >clearing and copying the cabs to c:\windows\options\cabs and checking the
> >setup registry path). The system is fully patched to the current MS
> >baseline. The network configuration is correct. This problem is being
> >caused by something in the system not working predictably.
> >
> >I tried a registy hack which checked the logon status and forced you back
to
> >the logon if not logged on. This would have worked great except instead
of
> >giving me just a prompt it attempted to automatically logon, which was
not a
> >function of the hack.
> >
> >I have tried playing around with PowerToys but still couldn't get the
logon
> >prompt. So now I am left wondering exactly what entails the logon
process?
> >What files and registry entries are used to control it's behavior?
> >
> >If anyone has any ideas, I would love to hear them!
> >
> >Thanks in advance,
> >
> >Robert Kister
>
> This is a common problem in Windows 95/98/Me. It can happen even when
> you've done everything right. The most likely fix is to run the
> registry editor, open this registry key:
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
> Network\Real Mode Net
>
> and delete the value named "AutoLogon".
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

I wish I could be as happy as Robert. I have tried
absolutely everything I can think of (short of re-
installing Windows 98 Second Edition) to get a network
logon screen, including removing the AutoLogon entry from
the registry. If anyone has any more suggestions for
someone who feels he's covered all bases ... ? thanks ...
>-----Original Message-----
>It worked perfectly! Thanks for the tip Steve. I have a
very happy user
>now.
>
>Thanks again,
>
>Robert Kister
>
>"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message
>news(E-Mail Removed).. .
>> In article
<(E-Mail Removed)>, "Robert Kister"
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> >Hi Group,
>> >
>> >I am having trouble with a Win 98SE installation. I
can't get this
>system
>> >to give me the logon prompt at bootup. I am having my
user log off after
>> >boot to get the prompt. Then all works fine.
>> >
>> >I am logging into a domain and I have installed Client
for MS networks
>and
>> >set it as primary logon. Our transport is TCP/IP and
I've tried
>> >re-installing all network components from known good
cabinet files (by
>> >clearing and copying the cabs to
c:\windows\options\cabs and checking the
>> >setup registry path). The system is fully patched to
the current MS
>> >baseline. The network configuration is correct. This
problem is being
>> >caused by something in the system not working
predictably.
>> >
>> >I tried a registy hack which checked the logon status
and forced you back
>to
>> >the logon if not logged on. This would have worked
great except instead
>of
>> >giving me just a prompt it attempted to automatically
logon, which was
>not a
>> >function of the hack.
>> >
>> >I have tried playing around with PowerToys but still
couldn't get the
>logon
>> >prompt. So now I am left wondering exactly what
entails the logon
>process?
>> >What files and registry entries are used to control
it's behavior?
>> >
>> >If anyone has any ideas, I would love to hear them!
>> >
>> >Thanks in advance,
>> >
>> >Robert Kister
>>
>> This is a common problem in Windows 95/98/Me. It can
happen even when
>> you've done everything right. The most likely fix is
to run the
>> registry editor, open this registry key:
>>
>>
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersio
n\
>> Network\Real Mode Net
>>
>> and delete the value named "AutoLogon".
>> --
>> Best Wishes,
>> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>>
>> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the
news group
>> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer
questions
>> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>>
>> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows
Networking
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>>
>> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
>> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
>
>
>.
>

Problem: Password is not being saved and/or login screen keeps coming up
when Windows 95/98 starts.

Possible Solution: There are numerous settings that need to be set
correctly, so we will add/reconfigure each one to insure it is properly set.

Go to the Control Panel, double-click the icon entitled "PASSWORDS." At the
top of the screen there are tabs. Click the tab titled "USER PROFILES" and
make sure the option "All users of this computer use the same preferences
and desktop settings."

Click OK.

While in the Control Panel, see if you have an icon called "TWEAK UI", if
so, double-click it, find the tab that says Paranoia, and make sure the
option "Clear Last User at logon" is NOT checked. Click OK.

Back in the Control Panel, double-click on the icon titled "Network" and
make sure you have the following components installed:

Client for Microsoft Networks

Dial-Up Adapter

TCP/IP



If you have any other components, remove them, these are the only three you
should have (unless you have a network card or are using AOL). Check to see
that "Windows Logon" is selected for the "Primary Network Logon" listed
below.

Double-click "Client for Microsoft Networks" and make sure "Log on to
Windows NT domain" is NOT checked. While in that window, make sure that
"Quick logon" is selected. Click OK.

On the tabs at the top of the screen, select "Access Control" and make sure
the option "Share-level access control" is selected.

Click OK.

If you are asked to re-boot, say NO.

Close the Control Panel.

Double-click My Computer

Double-click Dial-up Networking

You should see the icon used to dial your ISP here. Right-click on it and
select PROPERTIES.

On the tabs at the top of the window, select the one that is titled "Server
Types"

Under ADVANCED OPTIONS, the ONLY item that should be selected is "Enable
software compression". Please make sure that "Log on to network" and all of
the other options are not enabled.

Below that, it says "Allowed network protocols"

Make sure the last option, "TCP/IP" is the ONLY item selected.

Click OK.

Close any open windows.

Click on Start.

Click on Run.

Type COMMAND (hit enter).

Type CD \Windows (hit enter).

Type DEL *.PWL (hit enter).

Type EXIT (hit enter).

Run the registry editor, open this registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
Network\Real Mode Net



and delete the value named "AutoLogon". This web site explains how to
do it: http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/nologon.htm#AutoLogon

Click Start

Click Shutdown

Choose "Restart"

When Windows comes back up, a login screen should be displayed. For the
name, type TEST (hit enter)

For the password, type nothing, just hit the enter key.

If Windows asks for password verification, hit the enter key again.

That's it, you're all done! The next time you restart Windows, the logon
screen should not come up, and when you dial your ISP, the option to save
your password should be enabled.



Carey



"Bruce Fleming" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:0cda01c4325f$2baa4ec0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I wish I could be as happy as Robert. I have tried
> absolutely everything I can think of (short of re-
> installing Windows 98 Second Edition) to get a network
> logon screen, including removing the AutoLogon entry from
> the registry. If anyone has any more suggestions for
> someone who feels he's covered all bases ... ? thanks ...
> >-----Original Message-----
> >It worked perfectly! Thanks for the tip Steve. I have a
> very happy user
> >now.
> >
> >Thanks again,
> >
> >Robert Kister
> >
> >"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> message
> >news(E-Mail Removed).. .
> >> In article
> <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Robert Kister"
> >> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >> >Hi Group,
> >> >
> >> >I am having trouble with a Win 98SE installation. I
> can't get this
> >system
> >> >to give me the logon prompt at bootup. I am having my
> user log off after
> >> >boot to get the prompt. Then all works fine.
> >> >
> >> >I am logging into a domain and I have installed Client
> for MS networks
> >and
> >> >set it as primary logon. Our transport is TCP/IP and
> I've tried
> >> >re-installing all network components from known good
> cabinet files (by
> >> >clearing and copying the cabs to
> c:\windows\options\cabs and checking the
> >> >setup registry path). The system is fully patched to
> the current MS
> >> >baseline. The network configuration is correct. This
> problem is being
> >> >caused by something in the system not working
> predictably.
> >> >
> >> >I tried a registy hack which checked the logon status
> and forced you back
> >to
> >> >the logon if not logged on. This would have worked
> great except instead
> >of
> >> >giving me just a prompt it attempted to automatically
> logon, which was
> >not a
> >> >function of the hack.
> >> >
> >> >I have tried playing around with PowerToys but still
> couldn't get the
> >logon
> >> >prompt. So now I am left wondering exactly what
> entails the logon
> >process?
> >> >What files and registry entries are used to control
> it's behavior?
> >> >
> >> >If anyone has any ideas, I would love to hear them!
> >> >
> >> >Thanks in advance,
> >> >
> >> >Robert Kister
> >>
> >> This is a common problem in Windows 95/98/Me. It can
> happen even when
> >> you've done everything right. The most likely fix is
> to run the
> >> registry editor, open this registry key:
> >>
> >>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersio
> n\
> >> Network\Real Mode Net
> >>
> >> and delete the value named "AutoLogon".
> >> --
> >> Best Wishes,
> >> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
> >>
> >> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the
> news group
> >> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer
> questions
> >> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
> >>
> >> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows
> Networking
> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> >>
> >> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> >> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
> >
> >
> >.
> >

On Tue, 4 May 2004 22:55:04 -0700, "Carey Holzman" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Problem: Password is not being saved and/or login screen keeps coming up
>when Windows 95/98 starts.
>

<snip>

He wants a login screen to come up.