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yong
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      09-01-2006, 11:41 AM

Hi all

My develop board have embeded linux installed which can only accept one process each time.I want to do uucp with the device,but it's impossible to invoke uucico because no daemon allowed in that system.
Is there anyway to do uucp without uucico?

Thanks.
 
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Frank Elsner
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      09-01-2006, 12:22 PM
yong wrote:
> Hi all
>
> My develop board have embeded linux installed which can only accept one process each time.I want to do uucp with the device,but it's impossible to invoke uucico because no daemon allowed in that system.
> Is there anyway to do uucp without uucico?


No.


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      09-01-2006, 12:39 PM
Frank Elsner <FE-NutzNetz-2006-(E-Mail Removed)> writes:

> yong wrote:
>> Hi all
>>
>> My develop board have embeded linux installed which can only accept one process each time.I want to do uucp with the device,but it's impossible to invoke uucico because no daemon allowed in that system.
>> Is there anyway to do uucp without uucico?

>
> No.
>
>


Thanks.

And is there any other utils can do uucp?
 
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Floyd L. Davidson
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      09-01-2006, 12:45 PM
yong <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Hi all
>
>My develop board have embeded linux installed which can only
>accept one process each time.


Is that actually true???? I don't know how Linux could run that
way, because it *requires* multiple processes. Maybe you mean
something different by "one process each time" than I'm
thinking. Can you describe that in more detail?

>I want to do uucp with the
>device,but it's impossible to invoke uucico because no
>daemon allowed in that system. Is there anyway to do uucp
>without uucico?


You can't do uucp without uucico, but note that uucico isn't
really a daemon process itself. Think of it as a command shell!

It was invoked traditionally by the login process, as the login
"shell" for the interactive uucp user just as sh was invoked for
an interactive login user. Today it might do the same, or it is
more likely invoked by the inetd daemon process to use network
i/o rather than serial port i/o.

You might explain what your "develop board" actually is, and
what your "embeded linux" actually is, and then somebody might
know the specifics of how to do uucp for that setup.

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Andrzej Adam Filip
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      09-01-2006, 03:11 PM
yong <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:

> My develop board have embeded linux installed which can only accept
> one process each time.I want to do uucp with the device,but it's
> impossible to invoke uucico because no daemon allowed in that system.
> Is there anyway to do uucp without uucico?


Would using "outgoing only" uucp connections fix it?

You may even deploy some custom "light weight" method for
"is any uucp job ready for me" polling.

BTW Do you want uucp over internet or uucp over modem link?

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Chris Baird
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      09-02-2006, 12:23 AM
yong writes:
> My develop board have embeded linux installed which can only accept
> one process each time.I want to do uucp with the device,but it's
> impossible to invoke uucico because no daemon allowed in that
> system. Is there anyway to do uucp without uucico?


There is the option to keep Taylor's uucico from detacting into the
background (-D/--nodetact), and it would be a trivial to make that the
default behavour with the source. There are configuration parameters
to keep uuxqt from running afterwards, also.

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David Schwartz
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      09-02-2006, 12:49 PM

yong wrote:
> Frank Elsner <FE-NutzNetz-2006-(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>
> > yong wrote:
> >> Hi all
> >>
> >> My develop board have embeded linux installed which can only accept one process each time.I want to do uucp with the device,but it's impossible to invoke uucico because no daemon allowed in that system.
> >> Is there anyway to do uucp without uucico?

> >
> > No.


> Thanks.
>
> And is there any other utils can do uucp?


How would that help you? I thought the issue was that you couldn't run
any utility.

Can you tell us what development board you are talking about. It's not
clear what you mean by "one process each time".

DS

 
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Timothy Murphy
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      09-02-2006, 01:47 PM
David Schwartz wrote:

>> >> My develop board have embeded linux installed which can only accept
>> >> one process each time.I want to do uucp with the device,but it's
>> >> impossible to invoke uucico because no daemon allowed in that system.
>> >> Is there anyway to do uucp without uucico?

>> And is there any other utils can do uucp?

>
> How would that help you? I thought the issue was that you couldn't run
> any utility.
>
> Can you tell us what development board you are talking about. It's not
> clear what you mean by "one process each time".


Yes, I found this puzzling.
Does uucp normally run as a daemon at either end?
I thought that when uucico connected to the remote machine,
it started uucico there?

I wonder what happens if the OP just says "uucico -S <your remote system>"
or even "telnet <IP> uucp".


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