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Greg R
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      03-13-2005, 01:49 AM
How do I network 98se and xp together Using netbeui?

I will be getting a computer this week with 98/98se. I will possible
do a clean install.

I would like to know how to network two computer using the NetBEUI
protocol. I am wanting to hook up windows 98/98se to an windows xp
machine. The 98se will be my main use and I will want to share the
printer on the computer. I will be hooking the printer to the 98se
computer. The “XP” computer will not be on all the time. Can I share
the internet connection as well. I am on dial-up.

A lot of places recommend using the netbios. I thought netbios was
not secure. Even grc says not to use it.

I usally does this tweak in 98
Remove thease from the registry
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\VxD\VNETBIOS
and:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\VxD\VNETSUP

Then delete both vnetbios.vxd + vnetsup.vxd
That disables the netbios connection in windows 98

Thank you for any help.

Greg R
 
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      03-15-2005, 10:09 AM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Greg R
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>How do I network 98se and xp together Using netbeui?
>
>I will be getting a computer this week with 98/98se. I will possible
>do a clean install.
>
>I would like to know how to network two computer using the NetBEUI
>protocol. I am wanting to hook up windows 98/98se to an windows xp
>machine. The 98se will be my main use and I will want to share the
>printer on the computer. I will be hooking the printer to the 98se
>computer. The “XP” computer will not be on all the time. Can I share
>the internet connection as well. I am on dial-up.
>
>A lot of places recommend using the netbios. I thought netbios was
>not secure. Even grc says not to use it.
>
>I usally does this tweak in 98
>Remove thease from the registry
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servi ces\VxD\VNETBIOS
>and:
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servi ces\VxD\VNETSUP
>
>Then delete both vnetbios.vxd + vnetsup.vxd
>That disables the netbios connection in windows 98
>
>Thank you for any help.
>
>Greg R


This site has instructions:

HOW TO: Install NetBEUI on Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;301041

However:

1. I think that the grc web site grossly exaggerates the dangers of
NetBIOS over TCP/IP.

2. There's no need to edit the registry or delete files on 98SE. To
protect your shared disks and folders from Internet hackers, un-bind
"Client for Microsoft Networks" and "File and printer sharing for
Microsoft Networks" from TCP/IP->Dial-Up Adapter.

3. Once you do the un-binding in #2, there's no longer any reason to
use NetBEUI.

Windows 98SE can share its dial-up Internet connection with Windows
XP. Configure 98SE as an ICS host and XP as an ICS client:

ICS Installation [Win98SE]
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...icsinstall.htm

XP ICS - Client Setup Using the Network Setup Wizard
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../clientwiz.htm

Don't run XP's Network Setup Wizard on 98SE, even if it tells you to.

It would be much better to use XP as the ICS host and 98SE as the
client. XP's version of ICS is easier to set up and more reliable
than 98SE's.
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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      03-15-2005, 04:09 PM

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Greg R
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >How do I network 98se and xp together Using netbeui?
> >
> >I will be getting a computer this week with 98/98se. I will possible
> >do a clean install.
> >
> >I would like to know how to network two computer using the NetBEUI
> >protocol. I am wanting to hook up windows 98/98se to an windows xp
> >machine. The 98se will be my main use and I will want to share the
> >printer on the computer. I will be hooking the printer to the 98se
> >computer. The "XP" computer will not be on all the time. Can I share
> >the internet connection as well. I am on dial-up.
> >
> >A lot of places recommend using the netbios. I thought netbios was
> >not secure. Even grc says not to use it.
> >
> >I usally does this tweak in 98
> >Remove thease from the registry
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servi ces\VxD\VNETBIOS
> >and:
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servi ces\VxD\VNETSUP
> >
> >Then delete both vnetbios.vxd + vnetsup.vxd
> >That disables the netbios connection in windows 98
> >
> >Thank you for any help.
> >
> >Greg R

>
> This site has instructions:
>
> HOW TO: Install NetBEUI on Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;301041
>
> However:
>
> 1. I think that the grc web site grossly exaggerates the dangers of
> NetBIOS over TCP/IP.
>
> 2. There's no need to edit the registry or delete files on 98SE. To
> protect your shared disks and folders from Internet hackers, un-bind
> "Client for Microsoft Networks" and "File and printer sharing for
> Microsoft Networks" from TCP/IP->Dial-Up Adapter.
>
> 3. Once you do the un-binding in #2, there's no longer any reason to
> use NetBEUI.
>
> Windows 98SE can share its dial-up Internet connection with Windows
> XP. Configure 98SE as an ICS host and XP as an ICS client:
>
> ICS Installation [Win98SE]
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...icsinstall.htm
>
> XP ICS - Client Setup Using the Network Setup Wizard
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../clientwiz.htm
>
> Don't run XP's Network Setup Wizard on 98SE, even if it tells you to.
>
> It would be much better to use XP as the ICS host and 98SE as the
> client. XP's version of ICS is easier to set up and more reliable
> than 98SE's.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm



Steve,I hope you don't mind me coming in on this subject.
I run XP as the host and 98SE as the client.
My network is working Ok and I can transfer files etc
At one stage I could access the Internet through Internet Explorer and also
use Outlook Express from 98.
But that access has vanished and in trying to restate the capability I find
I have undone my network so have backtracked to at least having a working
network.
I looked at the sites you mentioned and found the 98 as host and XP as
client instructions very easy to follow
But when I tried to follow the XP as host and 98 as client I found it very
difficult and the result was no ICS.
Is it true to say that ICS should not be installed on the client 98?
I have produced ipconfig/all print outs for both PCs
Would it help if you saw them?
Blair


 
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      03-15-2005, 06:19 PM
In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, "Blair"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>>[snip]
>> Windows 98SE can share its dial-up Internet connection with Windows
>> XP. Configure 98SE as an ICS host and XP as an ICS client:
>>
>> ICS Installation [Win98SE]
>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...icsinstall.htm
>>
>> XP ICS - Client Setup Using the Network Setup Wizard
>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../clientwiz.htm
>>
>> Don't run XP's Network Setup Wizard on 98SE, even if it tells you to.
>>
>> It would be much better to use XP as the ICS host and 98SE as the
>> client. XP's version of ICS is easier to set up and more reliable
>> than 98SE's.

>
>Steve,I hope you don't mind me coming in on this subject.


Hi, Blair. It would be better to post a brand new message with a
descriptive subject, like "Problem with XP ICS Host and 98SE Client".
The subject of this message, which is "Re: How do I network 98se and
xp together using netbeui?", doesn't apply to your question.

>I run XP as the host and 98SE as the client.
>My network is working Ok and I can transfer files etc
>At one stage I could access the Internet through Internet Explorer and also
>use Outlook Express from 98.
>But that access has vanished and in trying to restate the capability I find
>I have undone my network so have backtracked to at least having a working
>network.
>I looked at the sites you mentioned and found the 98 as host and XP as
>client instructions very easy to follow
>But when I tried to follow the XP as host and 98 as client I found it very
>difficult and the result was no ICS.


I've written a web site that should be easy to follow, with
instructions for making XP the host and 98 the client:

Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics

Since you're making 98 the client, you should run XP's Network Setup
Wizard on 98 when it tells you.

>Is it true to say that ICS should not be installed on the client 98?


True. ICS is installed only on the host. If you've installed ICS on
98, un-install it.

>I have produced ipconfig/all print outs for both PCs
>Would it help if you saw them?


Please try setting everything up again. If there are still problems,
copy and paste the ipconfig/all data into a news group reply.

>Blair

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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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      03-16-2005, 05:24 AM

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, "Blair"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
> >>[snip]
> >> Windows 98SE can share its dial-up Internet connection with Windows
> >> XP. Configure 98SE as an ICS host and XP as an ICS client:
> >>
> >> ICS Installation [Win98SE]
> >> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...icsinstall.htm
> >>
> >> XP ICS - Client Setup Using the Network Setup Wizard
> >> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../clientwiz.htm
> >>
> >> Don't run XP's Network Setup Wizard on 98SE, even if it tells you to.
> >>
> >> It would be much better to use XP as the ICS host and 98SE as the
> >> client. XP's version of ICS is easier to set up and more reliable
> >> than 98SE's.

> >
> >Steve,I hope you don't mind me coming in on this subject.

>
> Hi, Blair. It would be better to post a brand new message with a
> descriptive subject, like "Problem with XP ICS Host and 98SE Client".
> The subject of this message, which is "Re: How do I network 98se and
> xp together using netbeui?", doesn't apply to your question.
>
> >I run XP as the host and 98SE as the client.
> >My network is working Ok and I can transfer files etc
> >At one stage I could access the Internet through Internet Explorer and

also
> >use Outlook Express from 98.
> >But that access has vanished and in trying to restate the capability I

find
> >I have undone my network so have backtracked to at least having a working
> >network.
> >I looked at the sites you mentioned and found the 98 as host and XP as
> >client instructions very easy to follow
> >But when I tried to follow the XP as host and 98 as client I found it

very
> >difficult and the result was no ICS.

>
> I've written a web site that should be easy to follow, with
> instructions for making XP the host and 98 the client:
>
> Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics
>
> Since you're making 98 the client, you should run XP's Network Setup
> Wizard on 98 when it tells you.
>
> >Is it true to say that ICS should not be installed on the client 98?

>
> True. ICS is installed only on the host. If you've installed ICS on
> 98, un-install it.
>
> >I have produced ipconfig/all print outs for both PCs
> >Would it help if you saw them?

>
> Please try setting everything up again. If there are still problems,
> copy and paste the ipconfig/all data into a news group reply.
>
> >Blair

> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>

Thanks for you help.
I carried out all the instructions. On 98 I noticed that the time that the
wizard was configuring the PC network settings was very short with the P.C.
icon stopping briefly between moving .
I did wait some time but there was no further activity. There was no
connection to the internet from the 98
The only other thing was the list of requirements stated that the 98 should
be on line. My 98 depends on the connection to the XP to be on line. I don't
know if this matters
I have attached the two files
Hope this helps
Blair






 
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      03-16-2005, 06:41 AM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Blair"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>[snip]
>>>I run XP as the host and 98SE as the client.
>>>My network is working Ok and I can transfer files etc
>>>At one stage I could access the Internet through Internet Explorer and
>>>also use Outlook Express from 98.
>>>But that access has vanished and in trying to restate the capability I find
>>>I have undone my network so have backtracked to at least having a working
>>>network.
>>>I looked at the sites you mentioned and found the 98 as host and XP as
>>>client instructions very easy to follow
>>>But when I tried to follow the XP as host and 98 as client I found it
>>>very difficult and the result was no ICS.

>>
>> I've written a web site that should be easy to follow, with
>> instructions for making XP the host and 98 the client:
>>
>> Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing
>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics
>>
>> Since you're making 98 the client, you should run XP's Network Setup
>> Wizard on 98 when it tells you.
>>
>> >Is it true to say that ICS should not be installed on the client 98?

>>
>> True. ICS is installed only on the host. If you've installed ICS on
>> 98, un-install it.
>>
>> >I have produced ipconfig/all print outs for both PCs
>> >Would it help if you saw them?

>>
>> Please try setting everything up again. If there are still problems,
>> copy and paste the ipconfig/all data into a news group reply.

>
>Thanks for you help.
>I carried out all the instructions. On 98 I noticed that the time that the
>wizard was configuring the PC network settings was very short with the P.C.
>icon stopping briefly between moving .
>I did wait some time but there was no further activity. There was no
>connection to the internet from the 98
>The only other thing was the list of requirements stated that the 98 should
>be on line. My 98 depends on the connection to the XP to be on line. I don't
>know if this matters
>I have attached the two files
>Hope this helps
>Blair


I see two unusual things in the ipconfig output:

LAPTOP appears to be configured as an ICS host, sharing its dial-up
connection. However, there's no default gateway address on the PPP
adapter. I would expect it to show the PPP adapter's IP address as
the default gateway. Is Internet access working OK on that computer?
Are there any proxy server settings in Internet Explorer's Tools |
Internet Options | Connections | LAN Settings?

DESKTOP appears to be configured as an ICS client. However, it shows
that IP routing is enabled, which is normally only true on an ICS
host.

Try configuring the network settings manually on DESKTOP:

IP Address: 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS Server = your ISP's DNS servers

From the ipconfig output for LAPTOP, those servers are 195.92.195.95
and 195.92.195.94.

--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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      03-16-2005, 04:49 PM

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Blair"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >>>[snip]
> >>>I run XP as the host and 98SE as the client.
> >>>My network is working Ok and I can transfer files etc
> >>>At one stage I could access the Internet through Internet Explorer and
> >>>also use Outlook Express from 98.
> >>>But that access has vanished and in trying to restate the capability I

find
> >>>I have undone my network so have backtracked to at least having a

working
> >>>network.
> >>>I looked at the sites you mentioned and found the 98 as host and XP as
> >>>client instructions very easy to follow
> >>>But when I tried to follow the XP as host and 98 as client I found it
> >>>very difficult and the result was no ICS.
> >>
> >> I've written a web site that should be easy to follow, with
> >> instructions for making XP the host and 98 the client:
> >>
> >> Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing
> >> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics
> >>
> >> Since you're making 98 the client, you should run XP's Network Setup
> >> Wizard on 98 when it tells you.
> >>
> >> >Is it true to say that ICS should not be installed on the client 98?
> >>
> >> True. ICS is installed only on the host. If you've installed ICS on
> >> 98, un-install it.
> >>
> >> >I have produced ipconfig/all print outs for both PCs
> >> >Would it help if you saw them?
> >>
> >> Please try setting everything up again. If there are still problems,
> >> copy and paste the ipconfig/all data into a news group reply.

> >
> >Thanks for you help.
> >I carried out all the instructions. On 98 I noticed that the time that

the
> >wizard was configuring the PC network settings was very short with the

P.C.
> >icon stopping briefly between moving .
> >I did wait some time but there was no further activity. There was no
> >connection to the internet from the 98
> >The only other thing was the list of requirements stated that the 98

should
> >be on line. My 98 depends on the connection to the XP to be on line. I

don't
> >know if this matters
> >I have attached the two files
> >Hope this helps
> >Blair

>
> I see two unusual things in the ipconfig output:
>
> LAPTOP appears to be configured as an ICS host, sharing its dial-up
> connection. However, there's no default gateway address on the PPP
> adapter. I would expect it to show the PPP adapter's IP address as
> the default gateway. Is Internet access working OK on that computer?
> Are there any proxy server settings in Internet Explorer's Tools |
> Internet Options | Connections | LAN Settings?
>
> DESKTOP appears to be configured as an ICS client. However, it shows
> that IP routing is enabled, which is normally only true on an ICS
> host.
>
> Try configuring the network settings manually on DESKTOP:
>
> IP Address: 192.168.0.2
> Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
> DNS Server = your ISP's DNS servers
>
> From the ipconfig output for LAPTOP, those servers are 195.92.195.95
> and 195.92.195.94.
>
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>

My laptop connects to the Internet
There are no proxy settings on LAN settings
I configured as you suggested and lost my network.
I have left it until I get further instructions
Blair


 
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      03-17-2005, 01:12 AM
>
>"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Blair"
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> >>>[snip]
>> >>>I run XP as the host and 98SE as the client.
>> >>>My network is working Ok and I can transfer files etc
>> >>>At one stage I could access the Internet through Internet Explorer and
>> >>>also use Outlook Express from 98.
>> >>>But that access has vanished and in trying to restate the capability I

>find
>> >>>I have undone my network so have backtracked to at least having a

>working
>> >>>network.
>> >>>I looked at the sites you mentioned and found the 98 as host and XP as
>> >>>client instructions very easy to follow
>> >>>But when I tried to follow the XP as host and 98 as client I found it
>> >>>very difficult and the result was no ICS.
>> >>
>> >> I've written a web site that should be easy to follow, with
>> >> instructions for making XP the host and 98 the client:
>> >>
>> >> Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing
>> >> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics
>> >>
>> >> Since you're making 98 the client, you should run XP's Network Setup
>> >> Wizard on 98 when it tells you.
>> >>
>> >> >Is it true to say that ICS should not be installed on the client 98?
>> >>
>> >> True. ICS is installed only on the host. If you've installed ICS on
>> >> 98, un-install it.
>> >>
>> >> >I have produced ipconfig/all print outs for both PCs
>> >> >Would it help if you saw them?
>> >>
>> >> Please try setting everything up again. If there are still problems,
>> >> copy and paste the ipconfig/all data into a news group reply.
>> >
>> >Thanks for you help.
>> >I carried out all the instructions. On 98 I noticed that the time that

>the
>> >wizard was configuring the PC network settings was very short with the

>P.C.
>> >icon stopping briefly between moving .
>> >I did wait some time but there was no further activity. There was no
>> >connection to the internet from the 98
>> >The only other thing was the list of requirements stated that the 98

>should
>> >be on line. My 98 depends on the connection to the XP to be on line. I

>don't
>> >know if this matters
>> >I have attached the two files
>> >Hope this helps
>> >Blair

>>
>> I see two unusual things in the ipconfig output:
>>
>> LAPTOP appears to be configured as an ICS host, sharing its dial-up
>> connection. However, there's no default gateway address on the PPP
>> adapter. I would expect it to show the PPP adapter's IP address as
>> the default gateway. Is Internet access working OK on that computer?
>> Are there any proxy server settings in Internet Explorer's Tools |
>> Internet Options | Connections | LAN Settings?
>>
>> DESKTOP appears to be configured as an ICS client. However, it shows
>> that IP routing is enabled, which is normally only true on an ICS
>> host.
>>
>> Try configuring the network settings manually on DESKTOP:
>>
>> IP Address: 192.168.0.2
>> Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
>> Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
>> DNS Server = your ISP's DNS servers
>>
>> From the ipconfig output for LAPTOP, those servers are 195.92.195.95
>> and 195.92.195.94.

>
>My laptop connects to the Internet
>There are no proxy settings on LAN settings
>I configured as you suggested and lost my network.
>I have left it until I get further instructions
>Blair


Configuring the network settings manually on DESKTOP (the ICS client)
shouldn't cause it to lose the network. The IP address, subnet mask,
and default gateway that I specified are the same ones that it
previously had. All that's different is using your ISP's DNS servers.

Be sure to click Add after entering the default gateway and DNS server
addresses. Then, run ipconfig to verify that the settings are right.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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      03-17-2005, 05:18 AM

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> >
> >"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
> >> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Blair"
> >> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >> >>>[snip]
> >> >>>I run XP as the host and 98SE as the client.
> >> >>>My network is working Ok and I can transfer files etc
> >> >>>At one stage I could access the Internet through Internet Explorer

and
> >> >>>also use Outlook Express from 98.
> >> >>>But that access has vanished and in trying to restate the capability

I
> >find
> >> >>>I have undone my network so have backtracked to at least having a

> >working
> >> >>>network.
> >> >>>I looked at the sites you mentioned and found the 98 as host and XP

as
> >> >>>client instructions very easy to follow
> >> >>>But when I tried to follow the XP as host and 98 as client I found

it
> >> >>>very difficult and the result was no ICS.
> >> >>
> >> >> I've written a web site that should be easy to follow, with
> >> >> instructions for making XP the host and 98 the client:
> >> >>
> >> >> Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing
> >> >> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics
> >> >>
> >> >> Since you're making 98 the client, you should run XP's Network Setup
> >> >> Wizard on 98 when it tells you.
> >> >>
> >> >> >Is it true to say that ICS should not be installed on the client

98?
> >> >>
> >> >> True. ICS is installed only on the host. If you've installed ICS

on
> >> >> 98, un-install it.
> >> >>
> >> >> >I have produced ipconfig/all print outs for both PCs
> >> >> >Would it help if you saw them?
> >> >>
> >> >> Please try setting everything up again. If there are still

problems,
> >> >> copy and paste the ipconfig/all data into a news group reply.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks for you help.
> >> >I carried out all the instructions. On 98 I noticed that the time that

> >the
> >> >wizard was configuring the PC network settings was very short with the

> >P.C.
> >> >icon stopping briefly between moving .
> >> >I did wait some time but there was no further activity. There was no
> >> >connection to the internet from the 98
> >> >The only other thing was the list of requirements stated that the 98

> >should
> >> >be on line. My 98 depends on the connection to the XP to be on line. I

> >don't
> >> >know if this matters
> >> >I have attached the two files
> >> >Hope this helps
> >> >Blair
> >>
> >> I see two unusual things in the ipconfig output:
> >>
> >> LAPTOP appears to be configured as an ICS host, sharing its dial-up
> >> connection. However, there's no default gateway address on the PPP
> >> adapter. I would expect it to show the PPP adapter's IP address as
> >> the default gateway. Is Internet access working OK on that computer?
> >> Are there any proxy server settings in Internet Explorer's Tools |
> >> Internet Options | Connections | LAN Settings?
> >>
> >> DESKTOP appears to be configured as an ICS client. However, it shows
> >> that IP routing is enabled, which is normally only true on an ICS
> >> host.
> >>
> >> Try configuring the network settings manually on DESKTOP:
> >>
> >> IP Address: 192.168.0.2
> >> Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
> >> Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
> >> DNS Server = your ISP's DNS servers
> >>
> >> From the ipconfig output for LAPTOP, those servers are 195.92.195.95
> >> and 195.92.195.94.

> >
> >My laptop connects to the Internet
> >There are no proxy settings on LAN settings
> >I configured as you suggested and lost my network.
> >I have left it until I get further instructions
> >Blair

>
> Configuring the network settings manually on DESKTOP (the ICS client)
> shouldn't cause it to lose the network. The IP address, subnet mask,
> and default gateway that I specified are the same ones that it
> previously had. All that's different is using your ISP's DNS servers.
>
> Be sure to click Add after entering the default gateway and DNS server
> addresses. Then, run ipconfig to verify that the settings are right.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>

The IP address previously was selected automatically
I ran ipconfig on the 98 but as The network is not present I had to amend
the previous copy on my XP
Amended copy attached.
Makes really odd readings to me
Blair




 
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      03-17-2005, 08:52 AM
In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, "Blair"
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>> >> LAPTOP appears to be configured as an ICS host, sharing its dial-up
>> >> connection. However, there's no default gateway address on the PPP
>> >> adapter. I would expect it to show the PPP adapter's IP address as
>> >> the default gateway. Is Internet access working OK on that computer?
>> >> Are there any proxy server settings in Internet Explorer's Tools |
>> >> Internet Options | Connections | LAN Settings?
>> >>
>> >> DESKTOP appears to be configured as an ICS client. However, it shows
>> >> that IP routing is enabled, which is normally only true on an ICS
>> >> host.
>> >>
>> >> Try configuring the network settings manually on DESKTOP:
>> >>
>> >> IP Address: 192.168.0.2
>> >> Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
>> >> Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
>> >> DNS Server = your ISP's DNS servers
>> >>
>> >> From the ipconfig output for LAPTOP, those servers are 195.92.195.95
>> >> and 195.92.195.94.
>> >
>> >My laptop connects to the Internet
>> >There are no proxy settings on LAN settings
>> >I configured as you suggested and lost my network.
>> >I have left it until I get further instructions
>> >Blair

>>
>> Configuring the network settings manually on DESKTOP (the ICS client)
>> shouldn't cause it to lose the network. The IP address, subnet mask,
>> and default gateway that I specified are the same ones that it
>> previously had. All that's different is using your ISP's DNS servers.
>>
>> Be sure to click Add after entering the default gateway and DNS server
>> addresses. Then, run ipconfig to verify that the settings are right.

>
>The IP address previously was selected automatically


That's right. It was automatically assigned 192.168.0.2.

>I ran ipconfig on the 98 but as The network is not present I had to amend
>the previous copy on my X


I'm sorry, but I don't understand this. What does "network is not
present" mean? What did you amend, and how did you amend it?

>Amended copy attached.


Please copy and paste the ipconfig output directly into your news
group message. Don't include it as an attachment.

>Makes really odd readings to me
>Blair

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